Left side / Right side

[Raj]

I think a woman had her jester hat nicked

Seriously, I don't know, my attention was brought by the stewards running over and people looking over that way. I saw one boy angrily storm out so I assume an argument took place.

And what is it with people running on the pitch against Colchester? Two years in a row now.

Its your official job to find out what happened and report back to us!!!

It nearly woke me up all that commotion!!

And i'd hardly call the bloke running onto the pitch!!

More like drunken swagger alongside tah pitch!!!

[Bert]

This should be an away song only - it got it's best airing at Cheltenham.

[Sooper Steve's shin]

"Left side/right side" is the new "Stand up if you love Leicester".

"Stand up if you love Leicester" was the new Mexican Wave.

[Raj]

Anyone know which set of fans actually started doing this first??

[Bert]

Anyone know which set of fans actually started doing this first??

The first time I heard it was Southampton away, 2 seasons back. We lost 2-0 after playing in a monsoon.

[stez]

Im in favour of more atmosphere and a good sing song but the whole left side/right side thing is excruciatingly painful to hear, it's an embarrasment.

I cant offer an alternative but I along with many, many others do not want to heat this shite pointless 'song'.

i like it, it makes me smile. and anything is better than the, moronic "errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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[morris1234]

i thought sk3 against colchester did well. we kept singing long after others stopped.

and for those that are in L1 saying the kop is shite i cant say that you were brilliant, couldnt hear you at all on saturday or on other days for that matter. just my opinion!!!

i however dont really like the left side/right side chant, leave it for away games! but other than that sk3 was good, the rest wasnt great but you cant expect the whole kop including the ones near the front to get up, for one if youre not singing then you get told to sit down within three seconds of finishing a chant but L1 dont have that problem, they dont get told to sit down every 2 seconds even if your on the back row.

[leftsideoverhere]

Ian, I think you're a bit harsh on the SK4 wannabes at the back, at least they wannabe singing. Unlike the lot at the front, who want to be drinking cocoa and "entertained for their money". It was the wannabes who spent much of the second half on Saturday singing "1-0 down, who gives a fook", and that earned them some credit in my book. Better than moaning and booing, which some around me were doing.

I like leftside/rightside, and it was good at Millwall, but it doesn't always work. If you want a song that everyone in the kop can join in, then "we all live in a blue and white kop" seems obvious. And even the new faces know, "You are my Leicester". Molly Malone and 'When you're smiling' require a bit more, but I really don't think the problem with the front half (three-quarters?) of the kop is that the ones at the back are singing the wrong songs. There is a real problem at the Walkers which the club just don't know how to tackle.

Watching MOTD the other day, I was struck by a comment someone made about the Stoke crowd, which was loud and in good voice (if you like *that* song, which I don't, but that's beside the point) to the effect that you never hear the Stoke crowd get on the back of their own team, they're always loud and supportive, they always play their part. We've had that at certain times at LCFC, but not for quite a long time, and right now the Walkers crowd turn up and expect to be entertained, not participate. They've paid good money, they've been given poor entertainment overall for the past few years, and many of them feel they're owed something by the team. They're probably right, too, but that's missing the point of going to a football match. It's not the cinema, you're not supposed to sit quietly (or, for the love of everything precious, commentate wisely to your mate/family/loved one; it's not MOTD, and you don't know what you're doing). For a handful they probably enjoy getting a whole load of negativity and frustration about other stuff in their lives off their chest by yelling abuse at the officials / other team / travelling fans for 90 minutes, and if the home team get in the way of that sometimes, then so be it. There is not, currently, the kind of rapport between team and fans which means we will choose, in large numbers, to put effort in to supporting our club. We're not, whatever we say, "Leicester 'til we die".

Solutions? Well, firstly, look at the causes: instability and crap performances. So a period of steady improvement, with a stable team and management set-up. It's harder (a little) to sing your hearts out for the lads, when "the lads" are mostly on short-term loans and only here to pick up a paycheque. This year is better than last, for obvious reasons, but its easier when we're cheering on players who are clearly giving it all for LCFC. When Steve Walsh was in charge, you couldn't not sing. He'd have you after the game if you tried. We're not in that position yet because of the recent history, but for that reason alone, the club should prioritise the home-grown players and hang on to them, if there's at all a chance they will make it at the higher levels we're aiming for.

Secondly, sort out the stadium. Switching the kop and the family stand is an obvious step, and I cannot understand why they don't do it. Maybe a few kopites with kids should start getting tickets down that end anyway, and start a ruckus with the away fans regularly, until the club notices that it's the wrong place for a family stand? Also, tell the stewards to shut up moaning about people who want to stand, and put a marker five or six rows down from the top, above which people accept there's a risk that the person in front might stand up all game, and the stewards won't stop them. If you don't want to be sat behind a tall fat bastard on his feet all game, don't sit behind me, OK?

Thirdly, and this one takes more from the fans, can we do anything to get singing going before games? One of the biggest differences between football then and now is that no-one, no-one, takes their seats before 2.55 these days. With standing areas and un-numbered seating, it was common to see grounds nearly full by 2.30, the atmosphere building, and the singing underway long before the players ran out. Nowadays, it is a library until the moment the whistle goes. I know you all like your beer and everything, but it's a tall order to go from silence to cauldron in thirty seconds flat at the start of the game. So, how about making SK2 and SK3 'un-numbered seats'? Season tickets could still be sold - you just turn up, though, and sit where you like, taking your chances with the day trippers. If you care about being right behind the goal, or right at the back, get there early. And sing.

Finally, the club needs to realise what works and what doesn't when it comes to recreating missing atmosphere. Thankfully, most clubs that flirted with cheerleaders (ahem) have realised what a stupid idea they are, but the dreaded goal music is everywhere. And it's shit. At Millwall, listening to them sing their song when the teams ran out, it was obvious most of the crowd were only singing the first and last line, the rest of the time all you could hear was the PA playing it. Why bother? If the players want to run around to a recording of some bloke singing a song they can go to a nightclub. The team want the crowd noise on their side, and the crowds make the best noise when they're not interrupted by canned music. Have the teams run out to PHG, it's unique and it's Leicester, and if possible get that bloke with a real horn (ahem, again) to play it live every game, which would be something different from everywhere else. And then get the crowd to make the noise during the game.

Four steps forward, I reckon. Any views?

[maddog]

Its either no atmosphere at all in the kop or the left side right side song. I know which one id prefer.

Also singing left side right side for a bit often leads into other relevant chants like C'mon Lesta! etc.

Its a bit embarassing but it gets people standing and singing and does most of the time start off another chant after finishing the ls/rs

[Manwell Pablo]

Anyone know which set of fans actually started doing this first??

No, they should be culled whoever it was.

[lildave3]

This should be an away song only - it got it's best airing at Cheltenham.

Yup. There and Huddersfield it was good.

I don't mind it away from home and when we're winning.

[Shrenchel]

Anyone know which set of fans actually started doing this first??

England cricket's 'barmy army' I believe.

Ian, I think you're a bit harsh on the SK4 wannabes at the back, at least they wannabe singing. Unlike the lot at the front, who want to be drinking cocoa and "entertained for their money". It was the wannabes who spent much of the second half on Saturday singing "1-0 down, who gives a fook", and that earned them some credit in my book. Better than moaning and booing, which some around me were doing.

I like leftside/rightside, and it was good at Millwall, but it doesn't always work. If you want a song that everyone in the kop can join in, then "we all live in a blue and white kop" seems obvious. And even the new faces know, "You are my Leicester". Molly Malone and 'When you're smiling' require a bit more, but I really don't think the problem with the front half (three-quarters?) of the kop is that the ones at the back are singing the wrong songs. There is a real problem at the Walkers which the club just don't know how to tackle.

Watching MOTD the other day, I was struck by a comment someone made about the Stoke crowd, which was loud and in good voice (if you like *that* song, which I don't, but that's beside the point) to the effect that you never hear the Stoke crowd get on the back of their own team, they're always loud and supportive, they always play their part. We've had that at certain times at LCFC, but not for quite a long time, and right now the Walkers crowd turn up and expect to be entertained, not participate. They've paid good money, they've been given poor entertainment overall for the past few years, and many of them feel they're owed something by the team. They're probably right, too, but that's missing the point of going to a football match. It's not the cinema, you're not supposed to sit quietly (or, for the love of everything precious, commentate wisely to your mate/family/loved one; it's not MOTD, and you don't know what you're doing). For a handful they probably enjoy getting a whole load of negativity and frustration about other stuff in their lives off their chest by yelling abuse at the officials / other team / travelling fans for 90 minutes, and if the home team get in the way of that sometimes, then so be it. There is not, currently, the kind of rapport between team and fans which means we will choose, in large numbers, to put effort in to supporting our club. We're not, whatever we say, "Leicester 'til we die".

Solutions? Well, firstly, look at the causes: instability and crap performances. So a period of steady improvement, with a stable team and management set-up. It's harder (a little) to sing your hearts out for the lads, when "the lads" are mostly on short-term loans and only here to pick up a paycheque. This year is better than last, for obvious reasons, but its easier when we're cheering on players who are clearly giving it all for LCFC. When Steve Walsh was in charge, you couldn't not sing. He'd have you after the game if you tried. We're not in that position yet because of the recent history, but for that reason alone, the club should prioritise the home-grown players and hang on to them, if there's at all a chance they will make it at the higher levels we're aiming for.

Secondly, sort out the stadium. Switching the kop and the family stand is an obvious step, and I cannot understand why they don't do it. Maybe a few kopites with kids should start getting tickets down that end anyway, and start a ruckus with the away fans regularly, until the club notices that it's the wrong place for a family stand? Also, tell the stewards to shut up moaning about people who want to stand, and put a marker five or six rows down from the top, above which people accept there's a risk that the person in front might stand up all game, and the stewards won't stop them. If you don't want to be sat behind a tall fat bastard on his feet all game, don't sit behind me, OK?

Thirdly, and this one takes more from the fans, can we do anything to get singing going before games? One of the biggest differences between football then and now is that no-one, no-one, takes their seats before 2.55 these days. With standing areas and un-numbered seating, it was common to see grounds nearly full by 2.30, the atmosphere building, and the singing underway long before the players ran out. Nowadays, it is a library until the moment the whistle goes. I know you all like your beer and everything, but it's a tall order to go from silence to cauldron in thirty seconds flat at the start of the game. So, how about making SK2 and SK3 'un-numbered seats'? Season tickets could still be sold - you just turn up, though, and sit where you like, taking your chances with the day trippers. If you care about being right behind the goal, or right at the back, get there early. And sing.

Finally, the club needs to realise what works and what doesn't when it comes to recreating missing atmosphere. Thankfully, most clubs that flirted with cheerleaders (ahem) have realised what a stupid idea they are, but the dreaded goal music is everywhere. And it's shit. At Millwall, listening to them sing their song when the teams ran out, it was obvious most of the crowd were only singing the first and last line, the rest of the time all you could hear was the PA playing it. Why bother? If the players want to run around to a recording of some bloke singing a song they can go to a nightclub. The team want the crowd noise on their side, and the crowds make the best noise when they're not interrupted by canned music. Have the teams run out to PHG, it's unique and it's Leicester, and if possible get that bloke with a real horn (ahem, again) to play it live every game, which would be something different from everywhere else. And then get the crowd to make the noise during the game.

Four steps forward, I reckon. Any views?

That was a bit succint for me to read mate. Could you pad it out a bit more?

Left side/right side is pretty gash at home, but it's preferable to silence. It's fair enough for lads in L/K or the back at kop to moan about it but if you're part of the silent majority and you're complaning that those that are trying to get an atmosphere going are doing it wrong then you should probably have a word with yourself.

[Fosse Boy]

To re-iterate what people have said, Left/Right Side is preferable to silence. Anything is. That said, it seems to me that quite a lot of Leicester fans are unwilling to broaden their set list a little bit and embrace new tunes/old classics. Surely as "our song" we should sing WYS more than once a game, but how often does that happen? If someone tries to start a new original song, how quickly is it before it's shouted down/laughed off and we return to another rousing rendition of "Who Are Ya" or "Leicester, Leicester, Leicester"?

I was in the West Stand ( <_< ) on Saturday and although I thought the atmosphere was pretty gash in general, I still thought L1/K outsang "The Kop" for the vast majority of the game, although to give them their dues there were (what sounded like) about twenty or thirty odd in "The Kop" who were trying to keep songs going.

"The Kop" could be quality, "The Kop" should be quality. You see nigh on everyone in that stand on their feet before kick off and you're hopeful. But then what happens when the ref blows his whistle at Three O'Clock? The majority sit down and keep their mouths shut unless it's to boo or have a quick chant against the ref.

As a mate said to me, "people go in The Kop for the atmosphere, the problem is they don't want to contribute to it themselves".

Given the choice between there and L1, I know where I'd go every time.

[Fatbloke]

Shows how shit our home support is.

No, it shows how shit the bluddy song is, twattish and absolutely bugger all to do with supporting Leicester, is there a worse one ? YES, the one nil down who gives a fcuk, this is moronic and an insult to REAL fans, if you really don`t give a fcuk when we`re loosing then fcuk off and watch the telly you have no place at a City match !!

[Fosse Boy]

No, it shows how shit the bluddy song is, twattish and absolutely bugger all to do with supporting Leicester, is there a worse one ? YES, the one nil down who gives a fcuk, this is moronic and an insult to REAL fans, if you really don`t give a fcuk when we`re loosing then fcuk off and watch the telly you have no place at a City match !!

I would say it's a better response to your team going one nil down than getting on their backs and booing.

I think you've missed the point of the song anyhow. It's meant to exude (well deserved) arrogance, not people literally saying they don't give a damn.

[Shrenchel]

No, it shows how shit the bluddy song is, twattish and absolutely bugger all to do with supporting Leicester, is there a worse one ? YES, the one nil down who gives a fcuk, this is moronic and an insult to REAL fans, if you really don`t give a fcuk when we`re loosing then fcuk off and watch the telly you have no place at a City match !!

[Fatbloke]

You can slap your forehead all you like matey, I`m not stupid, I know the intended point of the stupid song but it changes my opinion of it not one jot, it`s a moronic song, sung by morons END OF.

[lcfc_jme]

Awful song, home fans signing against each other - crazy!

It's ****ing epic at Sarfampton, though. Seriously. They do it properly.

I wouldn't mind this song if our support was split into two seperate stands at away games, but when we're playing at home or singing it to our fans in the same stand, it's embarrassing and annoying as ****.

[Ultra]

It's ****ing epic at Sarfampton, though. Seriously. They do it properly.

I wouldn't mind this song if our support was split into two seperate stands at away games, but when we're playing at home or singing it to our fans in the same stand, it's embarrassing and annoying as ****.

Not half as annoying as L1, the self-styled "voice" of the fans, being outsung yet AGAIN by an away crew of 500.

[Simi]

Not half as annoying as L1, the self-styled "voice" of the fans, being outsung yet AGAIN by an away crew of 500.

[lcfc_jme]

Not half as annoying as L1, the self-styled "voice" of the fans, being outsung yet AGAIN by an away crew of 500.

Your vendetta against L1 is quite entertaining really. Whilst I dislike a lot of the clowns who go in there simply to gesture and Football Factory it up, I've had a right laugh every time I've been in there, and there are a lot of people I enjoy associating with at the football (most of the people I stand with at the awayers I attend). Most of the whole pulling factor of the footy these days is the company you keep, and in my opinion the people in L1 are great company.

As for being outsung, I can't comment but I can only state that from what I've seen of L1 in recent seasons, it's certainly the best place to be at the Walkers.