MPH Posted 24 August 2009 Posted 24 August 2009 I disagree.Two reasons... 1 He has little/no pace 2 He doesn't have the technical ability to turn defenders Gallagher on the other hand - it was obvious to me on Saturday which division he'd arrived from. He will eclipse Fryatt this season. Maybe not in terms of goals scored, but he has a greater ability on the ball. And he wasn't good enough for a first team place at Blackburn- well so says SA. At premiership level you have to make something out of nothing, and Fryatt won't do that. so you dont think gallagher was signed as the intended replacement for Fryatt, then?
flanimal Posted 24 August 2009 Posted 24 August 2009 People keep going on about Fryatt having no pace, but it's clearlyy not true, he's not blisteringly quick, but he has pace he's deceptively fast. Fryatt haas good feet, he has a good football brain, finishing is good - he could do a job in the Premier League - not set it a light. You don't need electric pace to be a Premier League player, Sheringham never had it, Cantona never had it, Le Tissier didn't have it. I'm not comparing Fryatt to any of them, but just saying Fryatt is a technique sort of player, so that's all he needs to maintain. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that I disagree, that's all.
Legend_in_blue Posted 24 August 2009 Posted 24 August 2009 so you dont think gallagher was signed as the intended replacement for Fryatt, then? Possibly. Give it about 2 weeks and we'll be in a better position to judge that. People keep going on about Fryatt having no pace, but it's clearlyy not true, he's not blisteringly quick, but he has pace he's deceptively fast. Fryatt haas good feet, he has a good football brain, finishing is good - he could do a job in the Premier League - not set it a light.You don't need electric pace to be a Premier League player, Sheringham never had it, Cantona never had it, Le Tissier didn't have it. I'm not comparing Fryatt to any of them, but just saying Fryatt is a technique sort of player, so that's all he needs to maintain. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that I disagree, that's all. Ok. That's fine. But just suppose he goes to Hull, who are a struggling club in PL, do you think he has what it takes to help pull them around? As has been mentioned on here, he is very much a confidence player, and if he's part of a struggling side, what impact - if any - will he make? He should stay here.
Tommy G Posted 24 August 2009 Posted 24 August 2009 People keep going on about Fryatt having no pace, but it's clearlyy not true, he's not blisteringly quick, but he has pace he's deceptively fast. Fryatt haas good feet, he has a good football brain, finishing is good - he could do a job in the Premier League - not set it a light.You don't need electric pace to be a Premier League player, Sheringham never had it, Cantona never had it, Le Tissier didn't have it. I'm not comparing Fryatt to any of them, but just saying Fryatt is a technique sort of player, so that's all he needs to maintain. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that I disagree, that's all. The players you mentioned were in their prime in the 90's, the prem has changed so much more with the influx of foreign more athletic players. It's all about pace now, look at the top successful strikers...Drogba, Rooney, Torres - all rapid. Centre backs such as Tony Adams are a thing of the past. Fryatt will face quicker, bigger and more athletic players that he would get embaressed against such as Gallas, Micah Richards, Vidic & co.
MPH Posted 24 August 2009 Posted 24 August 2009 People keep going on about Fryatt having no pace, but it's clearlyy not true, he's not blisteringly quick, but he has pace he's deceptively fast. Fryatt haas good feet, he has a good football brain, finishing is good - he could do a job in the Premier League - not set it a light.You don't need electric pace to be a Premier League player, Sheringham never had it, Cantona never had it, Le Tissier didn't have it. I'm not comparing Fryatt to any of them, but just saying Fryatt is a technique sort of player, so that's all he needs to maintain. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that I disagree, that's all. I like you flaminal. your're funny and foxestalk without flaminal would be alot less dull thats for sure... But Fryatt having pace? thats just silly...
flanimal Posted 24 August 2009 Posted 24 August 2009 Berbetov isn't rapid, and wasn't exactly cheap. Robbie Keane isn't all that quick. Depends what kind of player you are, if you want to play as a link-up man, speed of thought is better than speed of leg. I often thought Fryatt would play better behind a pacey out and out striker, I think he's quite a clever player. But yeah, if he went to Hull now - he'd contribute nothing but a warm bench.
CKB Posted 24 August 2009 Posted 24 August 2009 I noticed people allready saying if we sell Fryatt then we should get Beckford in...ARGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!
Tommy G Posted 24 August 2009 Posted 24 August 2009 Berbetov isn't rapid, and wasn't exactly cheap. Robbie Keane isn't all that quick.Depends what kind of player you are, if you want to play as a link-up man, speed of thought is better than speed of leg. I often thought Fryatt would play better behind a pacey out and out striker, I think he's quite a clever player. But yeah, if he went to Hull now - he'd contribute nothing but a warm bench. Berbatov isn't quick i will give you that but he has probably the best first touch in the prem. Thats what gets him through. Robbie Keane is pretty quick I would say! I think you've lost your argument, Fryatt isnt a slouch but he isn't Usain Bolt either. Just average really.
flanimal Posted 24 August 2009 Posted 24 August 2009 Berbatov isn't quick i will give you that but he has probably the best first touch in the prem. Thats what gets him through. Robbie Keane is pretty quick I would say! I think you've lost your argument, Fryatt isnt a slouch but he isn't Usain Bolt either. Just average really. Granted. To be Premier League standard Fryatt would have to finish at least 1 in 2 chances, and currently he doesn't do that. He's usually too selfish anyway.
Vlad The Impaler Posted 24 August 2009 Posted 24 August 2009 Fryatt will do the biz for us this year, I have no doubts about it. He will be premiership, not yet though.
flanimal Posted 24 August 2009 Posted 24 August 2009 Pacey or not, if he's accurate with his finishing he'll score.
Mr Happy Posted 24 August 2009 Posted 24 August 2009 Fryatt will do the biz for us this year, I have no doubts about it.He will be premiership, not yet though. This
maddog Posted 24 August 2009 Posted 24 August 2009 eh nuget head...thats my opinion...we are all entitled to that. I know i was posting in the insults thread somewhere and thought of peanut brain at the time
Vlad The Impaler Posted 24 August 2009 Posted 24 August 2009 Also, if it's worth anything my bro's mate's dad is one of Mike Stowells best mates (confusing I know) and apparently he said it's not happening. I'm not trying to be a knowitall or making stuff up here btw, He usually gets in the games VIP for free and everything. Just thought i'd pass this on, even though it sounds unreliable
MPH Posted 24 August 2009 Posted 24 August 2009 Pacey or not, if he's accurate with his finishing he'll score. absolutely!
Tommy G Posted 24 August 2009 Posted 24 August 2009 Also, if it's worth anything my bro's mate's dad is one of Mike Stowells best mates (confusing I know) and apparently he said it's not happening. I'm not trying to be a knowitall or making stuff up here btw, He usually gets in the games VIP for free and everything. Just thought i'd pass this on, even though it sounds unreliable Phew! Close this thread it's not happening!
maddog Posted 24 August 2009 Posted 24 August 2009 I do think this thread should possibly be locked temporarily until any more major news on this arrives otherwise it will go on forever and ever and ever. Plus il come up with more senseless statisical pointless theories on the matter which would be awful for everyone.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 24 August 2009 Posted 24 August 2009 If he stays, he stays, and if he goes, he goes. Speculation starts becoming rumour, and rumour become fact, that is generally wrong anyway. Let's just be positive, and enjoy the good start we have made, and see if Matty is to be our leading goalscorer at the end of the season. Come on Leicester!
markbsac Posted 24 August 2009 Posted 24 August 2009 I know i was posting in the insults thread somewhere and thought of peanut brain at the time mmmmm ..that worked then !
leftsideoverhere Posted 25 August 2009 Posted 25 August 2009 The discussion about Fryatt's pace or lack of seems to miss the point for me. Fryatt is certainly quick enough for the championship, and he could probably get on to the through balls and crosses in the prem too for that matter. His major weakness to me is not his pace but his first touch. Apart from that sublime flick for the goal on Saturday, you normally bank on Fryatt getting to the through ball but then hitting his first touch too strong and being at a disadvantage when shaping to shoot. With a better first touch his goal tally would have been even more impressive last season. Against league one defenders, he often got enough time to recover, against championship sides he mostly won't, and at the premiership level the defenders will have skinned him if he can't keep closer control. For that reason alone, £4million would be irresistible if it were true. I wouldn't be sanguine about our chances of replacing him, even with the full pot to spend, but I can't imagine the club turning down that kind of money. What worries me is that the offer, if it comes, is never going to be that high. All that said, I wouldn't want to lose him this season He's going to be crucial, both in scoring goals and occupying defenders while others score goals. Like with Howard last year, it's not just the goals you score that matter. And Fryatt will create space for Waghorn, Gally and others to exploit. Besides, according to the Hull Mail, No move for the 23-year-old has been lodged at this stage and while Brown watched Fryatt in Leicester's opening game of the season, he is not keen on the touted £4m price-tag.
Guest Posted 25 August 2009 Posted 25 August 2009 Merc Hull City are not trying to sign Leicester City striker Matty Fryatt.Reports emerged over the weekend linking Phil Brown's Tigers with a £4million move for Fryatt. However, those reports appear to be false as Hull have made no approach and City are not bracing themselves to receive one. Hull boss Phil Brown has admitted he was at the Walkers Stadium when City beat Swansea on the opening day of the season and, with his need for a new striker common knowledge, the speculation may have resulted. Hull have been linked with several strikers this summer, and Michael Owen, Fraizer Campbell, Marc-Antoine Fortune, Bobby Zamora, Marlon Harewood, Daryl Murphy and Real Madrid's Alvaro Negredo are all said to have rejected switches to the Premier League side. Sources in Hull say Brown made an enquiry for Cardiff City's Ross McCormack but was put off by the £3.5m price tag. That makes it even harder to believe he would pay £4m for Fryatt, who is yet to prove himself at Championship level, although he is undoubtedly a natural goalscorer with plenty of potential. Injury and disruptions off the field at City affected the former England under-19 striker two seasons ago, and his return of three goals was disappointing. However, he finished last season as the club's top scorer in League One with 32 goals and he broke several club records. He scored 20 goals before Christmas, the first Leicester player in 42 years – since Derek Dougan in 1966 – to do so. He also became the first City player in 83 years to hit successive hat-tricks when he fired trebles against Dagenham & Redbridge and Southend United. His goals will be key for City this season and Pearson would be reluctant to lose his main striker, although a bid of £4m could have tested the club's resolve. Fryatt was been the subject of speculation last season, but he committed his future to the club by signing a new three-and-a-half year contract last December.
davieG Posted 25 August 2009 Posted 25 August 2009 Closing this until a new more valid rumour turns up - everything that can be said about Fryatt, £4mill, Hull, Phil Brown, Phil Brown's tan has been said.
matty wyatt Posted 28 August 2009 Posted 28 August 2009 pearson says fryatt will not go to hull. hull are not much good any way and he would not start anyway fryatt staying with the best team
Hugo Sanchez Posted 28 August 2009 Posted 28 August 2009 pearson says fryatt will not go to hull. hull are not much good any way and he would not start anyway fryatt staying with the best team Thats great news, i'm glad i can beleive that. What else did he say ?
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