StanSP Posted 17 November 2009 Posted 17 November 2009 Do they have a case for appeal? Motoaki Inukai, the president of the Japan Football Association (JFA) wants the noisy vuvuzela trumpet to be banned from the World Cup in South Africa.Fifa has previously rejected calls for a ban on the plastic instrument. Japan have now appealed to South African officials after playing a friendly against the World Cup hosts at the weekend. "We have requested that the South African FA cut that noise out," Inukai told a Japanese newspaper. "You can't hear yourself speak. I will be bringing it up (with Fifa president Sepp Blatter)," Inukai added after Japan's 0-0 draw with South Africa in Port Elizabeth. Japan defender Tulio said: "You can't hear what your team mates are saying from two metres away. You have to go up to them to give instructions." The vuvuzela is synonymous with South African football fans but the incessant noise from the air horns triggered complaints from players, coaches and broadcasters during this year's Confederations Cup. Television networks complained that the sound drowned out their commentary, while top players including Spain's Xabi Alonso called for the trumpet to be banned. Asked for his thoughts on the subject after Saturday's stalemate, Japan coach Takeshi Okada responded dryly: "Perhaps if they play good football (the fans) will be quiet and watch." Their iconic sound isn't going down well on the pitch, but it's what they do over there - it's just their thing. That bit in bold made me laugh though as it might annoy some of you I don't think it should be banned though. I don't think FIFA will ban them, they might just find a way to cut down on it somehow.
Finnegan Posted 17 November 2009 Posted 17 November 2009 From a selfish point of view, yes. They make the TV coverage horrible. However, as I was arguing in the Malmo thread, different sporting cultures have different ways of expressing themselves in the ground and I don't really see what right we have to tell the Saffers they can't blow their horns. If they told England's fans they couldn't sing there'd be uproar. But as I also said back in the Confed Cup; it'll be different in the World Cup. There'll be a lot less native fans in the ground per game and a lot more travelling supporters for most of the major nations - who are less likely to use them.
Fosse Boy Posted 17 November 2009 Posted 17 November 2009 From a selfish point of view, yes. They make the TV coverage horrible.However, as I was arguing in the Malmo thread, different sporting cultures have different ways of expressing themselves in the ground and I don't really see what right we have to tell the Saffers they can't blow their horns. If they told England's fans they couldn't sing there'd be uproar. But as I also said back in the Confed Cup; it'll be different in the World Cup. There'll be a lot less native fans in the ground per game and a lot more travelling supporters for most of the major nations - who are less likely to use them. My feelings exactly. They're part of African football culture so what's the point in hosting the tournament there if FIFA have no intention of embracing and experiencing it?
davieG Posted 17 November 2009 Posted 17 November 2009 Ban the football, let's just have a Vuvuzelas concert. Nah live and let live, it's not violence or abusive>
Shrenchel Posted 17 November 2009 Posted 17 November 2009 My feelings exactly. They're part of African football culture so what's the point in hosting the tournament there if FIFA have no intention of embracing and experiencing it? Are they though?! A South African lad in Madrid told me that the incessant sound of hundreds of people blowing them constantly has only really been a feature in the last few years after certain companies started mass producing shit plastic ones and handing them out to kids in the stadiums. I'm sure you'd be the first to argue that certain things that have caught on here in the last few years aren't necessarily part of England's football culture.
breadandcheese Posted 17 November 2009 Posted 17 November 2009 Ban them. They're a pain in the *rse and make it impossible to watch the game without muting it. It may be the culture of football over there, but it doesn't make it good. Hooliganism and hoofball was the culture of English football in the 1980s. That was sh*te too and has changed for the better. The same should be done in South Africa. Ban the ridiculous horns.
Fosse Boy Posted 17 November 2009 Posted 17 November 2009 Are they though?! A South African lad in Madrid told me that the incessant sound of hundreds of people blowing them constantly has only really been a feature in the last few years after certain companies started mass producing shit plastic ones and handing them out to kids in the stadiums. I'm sure you'd be the first to argue that certain things that have caught on here in the last few years aren't necessarily part of England's football culture. To be honest I'm not all that well read on African football culture so I just sort of assumed it was the norm over there. If your source is right then I may have to change my vote.
Father Ted Posted 17 November 2009 Posted 17 November 2009 I gave up on watching the Under-17's world cup because of the noise!! I won't be able to bloody stand it at the real WC!!! PLEASE BAN THEM and let the fans make real noise.
Guest Bilo Posted 17 November 2009 Posted 17 November 2009 Ban them. They're a pain in the *rse and make it impossible to watch the game without muting it.It may be the culture of football over there, but it doesn't make it good. Hooliganism and hoofball was the culture of English football in the 1980s. That was sh*te too and has changed for the better. The same should be done in South Africa. Ban the ridiculous horns. Wise words good man. I'm all for anything that adds atmosphere to games, be it singing, drums or even the brass band that follows England but seems to get on everyone's tits. The vuvuzelas do nothing of the sort. They're irritating, off-putting and utterly devoid of a tune or beat. Sounds like a load of angry bees in a jamjar when you watch the games and FIFA need to spray the Raid to stop the damned noise.
dandannieldanok Posted 17 November 2009 Posted 17 November 2009 Are they though?! A South African lad in Madrid told me that the incessant sound of hundreds of people blowing them constantly has only really been a feature in the last few years after certain companies started mass producing shit plastic ones and handing them out to kids in the stadiums. I'm sure you'd be the first to argue that certain things that have caught on here in the last few years aren't necessarily part of England's football culture. Exactly, they're not at all authentic, they're just a noisy plastic irritant.
Uncle Albert Posted 17 November 2009 Posted 17 November 2009 They are a load of shit - they ruin watching a match on TV, well they did when the Confederations Cup was on. Hope they do get banned.
Koke Posted 17 November 2009 Posted 17 November 2009 They are a load of shit. I had to watch the Confederation Cup on mute - it really got on me tits. But Finners is right; it'll be different at the World Cup. There'll be less local native fans at the games and more travelling fans from all over the world. So we'll hopefully see less people using these horns.
Fosse Boy Posted 17 November 2009 Posted 17 November 2009 Wise words good man. I'm all for anything that adds atmosphere to games, be it singing, drums or even the brass band that follows England but seems to get on everyone's tits. The vuvuzelas do nothing of the sort. They're irritating, off-putting and utterly devoid of a tune or beat. Sounds like a load of angry bees in a jamjar when you watch the games and FIFA need to spray the Raid to stop the damned noise. Can't stand them. All they do is parp their way through three or four songs on repeat for ninety minutes. What makes them all the more perplexing is the fact they play Rule Britannia. Why?
The Doctor Posted 17 November 2009 Posted 17 November 2009 those things pissed me off no end at the confederations cup. if they want to annoy fans just play chelsea dagger after every single goal.
tartanowl Posted 27 November 2009 Posted 27 November 2009 They have started to sell them at Hillsborough this season. They are unbelivably irritating.
Samilktray Posted 29 November 2009 Posted 29 November 2009 I don't really notice them. Youd have to point them out to me.
Simi Posted 30 November 2009 Posted 30 November 2009 Our matches will be 80% English anyway, like they always are. So hopefully it won't be a major factor is our matches, they are annoying though.
lcfc_jme Posted 30 November 2009 Posted 30 November 2009 If they had Vuvuzelas at the Walkers, I'd go.
Guest Bilo Posted 30 November 2009 Posted 30 November 2009 If they had Vuvuzelas at the Walkers, I'd go and watch Hinckley.
Fosse Boy Posted 30 November 2009 Posted 30 November 2009 If they had Vuvuzelas at the Walkers, I'd go. Barclay would not like that.
lcfc_jme Posted 30 November 2009 Posted 30 November 2009 Barclay would not like that. Au contraire my friend, he'd probably fuck himself with one and finally chill the fuck out.
lildave3 Posted 30 November 2009 Posted 30 November 2009 I thought Vuvuzelas was going to be some African striker that had been caught taking illegal goat related substances.
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