LCFC-ARAB Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 Obviously they will use the standing issue to ban us and keep us away, but they used people complaining as a reason they also mentioned standing, but they couldnt say people were annoyed by that because we werent in anybodys way IF we go to the game on saturday and sit and sing they will expect that evey game, how will we attarct people away from L1 and other parts of the ground if they look over and just see us sitting, the whole idea is to be bouncing away for 90 minutes every game, that's how we get noticed, it's already been said that L1 couldnt hear us, but they could see us! that is what will attract people to us, and that wont happen sitting down, no matter how loud we sing! People stand at football up and down this country every week, Barclay has left L1 alone, why cant he leave us alone? there is obviously a loop hope that lets him pick and chose who he applies the rules too so they can't be that seriosu rules a home stand has NEVER been closed because of standing, no matter how many threats you hear, infact i think the only case of sections being decreased because of standing are Man Utd away fans at Sunderland this season which means United are only being given 1500 tickets, which is pathetic considering over 3,000 people stand at the Stadium of Light right next to the away fans, this will in turn make plenty of United fans buy tickets in home ends or even storm the gates like they have done plenty fo times, which will just cause more problems for stewards. Things need to change in this country. I dont think sitting down and singing when told will help us and to tell you the truth i dont know what will, we have over 2 weeks till the Cardiff game we just need to make that big. get as many people as possible for that and go for it all game, maybe get a message banner up saying something like 'supporters not customers' or something along those lines
AndyBrew Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 I have mixed feelings Liam I'm gutted about the Reading game, I can't help but think not turning up isn't going to help our cause
Ozwin Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 Not turning up would be silly, it'll be Barclay 1 - Fosse Boys 0 in the 2nd game. You've got to go out there and do your thing as loud as you can, I'm sure you'll have a few extra people joining after the first game and it'll show you're serious. The protest idea sounds good too, get there early and show them what for, in a non confrontational manner of course.
jonthefox Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 just joined the facebook group and i'll email the club shortly. i for one am fookin disgusted by this.
Ozwin Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 Also ****ing @ the club getting pissed off at the emails. Shows they're reading them and means they're making an impact.
iBleedLeicesterColours Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 Obviously they will use the standing issue to ban us and keep us away, but they used people complaining as a reason they also mentioned standing, but they couldnt say people were annoyed by that because we werent in anybodys way IF we go to the game on saturday and sit and sing they will expect that evey game, how will we attarct people away from L1 and other parts of the ground if they look over and just see us sitting, the whole idea is to be bouncing away for 90 minutes every game, that's how we get noticed, it's already been said that L1 couldnt hear us, but they could see us! that is what will attract people to us, and that wont happen sitting down, no matter how loud we sing! People stand at football up and down this country every week, Barclay has left L1 alone, why cant he leave us alone? there is obviously a loop hope that lets him pick and chose who he applies the rules too so they can't be that seriosu rules a home stand has NEVER been closed because of standing, no matter how many threats you hear, infact i think the only case of sections being decreased because of standing are Man Utd away fans at Sunderland this season which means United are only being given 1500 tickets, which is pathetic considering over 3,000 people stand at the Stadium of Light right next to the away fans, this will in turn make plenty of United fans buy tickets in home ends or even storm the gates like they have done plenty fo times, which will just cause more problems for stewards. Things need to change in this country. I dont think sitting down and singing when told will help us and to tell you the truth i dont know what will, we have over 2 weeks till the Cardiff game we just need to make that big. get as many people as possible for that and go for it all game, maybe get a message banner up saying something like 'supporters not customers' or something along those lines The thick people behind the scenes won't confront people in L1 because they think that anyone thats there is a 'hooligan' and think trouble will be caused.
sbfox Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 ARAB or any of the other leading members of the Fosse Boys - exactly WHY are you being threatened with ejection orders? Is it because of your singing or because of your standing? If its the standing, the club is within its right to eject you for persistent standing. Moreover, we shouldn't be getting national media involved if this whole issue is over standing at matches, I don't think the Fosse Boys would come off well... FINALLY, could we have some more transparency on what you've heard from that club? Lots of people are going on heresay and are getting all het up over something that may not be an issue at all.
LCFC-ARAB Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 ARAB or any of the other leading members of the Fosse Boys - exactly WHY are you being threatened with ejection orders? Is it because of your singing or because of your standing? If its the standing, the club is within its right to eject you for persistent standing. Moreover, we shouldn't be getting national media involved if this whole issue is over standing at matches, I don't think the Fosse Boys would come off well... FINALLY, could we have some more transparency on what you've heard from that club? Lots of people are going on heresay and are getting all het up over something that may not be an issue at all. Kevin Barclay phoned up someone who contacts us, he said that he received numerous complaints about us after the boro game. he basically said that if we do what we did at the boro game again at the reading game then long bans will be handed out The club are being clever when trying to contact us by saying everything over the phone as they dont want any of it documented, they have emailed us asking us to phone them etc.
AndyBrew Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 The reason for being ejected will be standing, the clubs justification for the threat is the complaints from other supporters Whether the club is within it's rights for me is neither here nor there, there are supporters standing all around the ground this is purely about mr barclay being on a power trip IMHO
davieG Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 Obviously they will use the standing issue to ban us and keep us away, but they used people complaining as a reason they also mentioned standing, but they couldnt say people were annoyed by that because we werent in anybodys way IF we go to the game on saturday and sit and sing they will expect that evey game, how will we attarct people away from L1 and other parts of the ground if they look over and just see us sitting, the whole idea is to be bouncing away for 90 minutes every game, that's how we get noticed, it's already been said that L1 couldnt hear us, but they could see us! that is what will attract people to us, and that wont happen sitting down, no matter how loud we sing! People stand at football up and down this country every week, Barclay has left L1 alone, why cant he leave us alone? there is obviously a loop hope that lets him pick and chose who he applies the rules too so they can't be that seriosu rules a home stand has NEVER been closed because of standing, no matter how many threats you hear, infact i think the only case of sections being decreased because of standing are Man Utd away fans at Sunderland this season which means United are only being given 1500 tickets, which is pathetic considering over 3,000 people stand at the Stadium of Light right next to the away fans, this will in turn make plenty of United fans buy tickets in home ends or even storm the gates like they have done plenty fo times, which will just cause more problems for stewards. Things need to change in this country. I dont think sitting down and singing when told will help us and to tell you the truth i dont know what will, we have over 2 weeks till the Cardiff game we just need to make that big. get as many people as possible for that and go for it all game, maybe get a message banner up saying something like 'supporters not customers' or something along those lines You need to win one battle at time to eventually win a war it may take time but as others have said this is a chance to get people on your side if you get a 100 people to join you in sitting and singing they may well stay having won that war you can then move on to standing and with 100+ standing rather than 30 they will find it harder to stop as they do with L1 and the away fans. Note: numbers used purely to make the point.
Edmund Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 so, we need to find someone else to email - anyone got any contacts at one of the red tops, the Sun would go nuts for a story like this.... Responce from I.Stringer:- My advice, for what its worth is to press your story as hard as you can in as many different media outlets as you can, there's a few to choose from. Regards, Ian A mate of mine knows a guy who does some freelance sport pieces for the nationals, I'll see if I can get on to him and see what the reponse is I suggested this to fosse boy and ARAB. Contact ssn, and every media outlet possible. Someone will pick up on it eventually. The media will love it. A club telling their own fans to stop making noise is borderline insanity. The club are digging themselves into a big hole if they aren't even taken are e-mails seriously. Even more so considering they listened to the supposed 22 who complained. The arrogance of the club stinks.
Ozwin Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 The reason for being ejected will be standing, the clubs justification for the threat is the complaints from other supporters How can they justify it though if nobody is behind them? I mean it's a crazy state of affairs really, we're turning into Middlesbrough.
stix Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 How could ANY of the cock suckers who complained have been complaining about them standing for the whole game?! There was NOBODY sitting behind them!!! In what other way could the fosse boys standing have caused anyone discomfort? They have blatently used these complaints(which were obviously ALL about the singing/chanting!) to pull the 'No Standing' card on them. This is completely out of order, however unless they are willing to show the fosse boys the complaint emails as proof, they are gonna win this battle. I really hope you boys do decide to come to the Reading game on saturday. Ive even got 3 of my mates tickets for this on the friends and family thing and moved my ticket to the kop with them so i could listen and support you!! Just my luck!
AndyBrew Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 The problem as I see it will be that the clubs official statement will not be mentioning singing, but will be spun along the lines of persistent standing blocking a young families view etc. National media who have no interest in our club will find a story sure enough but it may not be the one we are looking for
Corky Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 Just got off the phone with someone who is in contact with us and the club, apparently the emails have been pissing the club off no end, and they asked me to tell you not to continue emailing as that email is just for official complaints. They also referred to you all as kids. They said they are going to get a seperate email address for people to email their support too, so it will be easier for them to ignore i guess. By not taking these emails as serious complaints and asuming you are all children it feels like the club are just trying to ignore what is right infront of them. Jobber has also been on the phone after a mercury reporter phoned him up, they asked him if he was in favour of the Fosse Boys and he told the reporter he was backing us etc etc but then the reporter asked him where abouts he sits in the ground... so i'm guessing he doesnt know that much about fans down Filber Way so some other random stuff might get printed. It's up to the Club now, lets see what they are gunna say Oh dear, has the idealistic little world where all fans turn up, sit down and watch the game that they live in been shattered? The club are not making themselves look very good here.
bigneville Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 I just sent my email giving my thoughts on the club and the Fosse Boys. Hopefully they will take notice of all the emails that have been sent this afternoon. Shows great support for the Fosse Boys. Fosse Boys - DO NOT GIVE UP!
leftsideoverhere Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 But isnt sitting down giving in as well?? My personal view on sitting is that i cant stand it( unintentional pun) the most i have sat down at a game over the last 3 or so years was the 2nd half at sunerland home this season, and i am a priority 1 season ticket holder so i get to plenty of away games aswell it seriosuly ruins the entire day having to sit down and i would honestly rather stay in the pub and watch it on tv than sit and sing that will sounds stupid to a lot of you, but i am sure a lot of the fosse boys will agree with me (well i hope they do!) I understand your feelings, ARAB, but I honestly think that from a tactical point of view you're making a mistake here. The club say they want you to move away from the location they agreed with you (for, I thought I'd read at the time, the first four games, an agreement they are now reneging on) or risk ejection. They can't eject you for sitting in a seat you have legitimately bought a ticket for, or for singing or anything else, but they can eject you for standing. To respond to that by saying that the Fosse Boys will effectively disband for the Reading game means you'll have given the club what they want, and undermined the momentum you built up at the Boro game. The question shouldn't be whether you'd rather sit down or watch in the pub, the question is what is the best thing to do in terms of cementing the Fosse Boys and demonstrating to the club that they've got this wrong. Not turning up will make the club think they can face you down quite easily. If you don't come to the Reading game as the Fosse Boys, and then you do turn up the week after, the other fans are going to be confused as hell, and you will find it hard to get support from them. If I were involved in the tactical discussions of the FB at the moment, I'd be saying you should all get tickets for that top corner area again, and before the game you should have several thousands leaflets available to give out to fellow fans, especially in the kop end, explaining what you're about, explaining the agreement you thought you'd had from the club, and asking fans to back you - by standing up in the kop if they feel able to, by emailing the Club fanzone email and - something I've been wanting to do for a while - by texting their stupid fanzone text number to complain about how quiet it is in the Walkers. They go out of their way to encourage complaints from fans about 'trouble' but then ignore complaints about the food, about the stewards, about ticket prices - in fact they ignore all the complaints that they could actually do something about and just listen to fans who want to moan about other fans. This is a crucial point in the 'campaign' for the Fosse Boys future, guys, and I really urge you to think again about the tactic of appearing to fade away, even for just one game - it's a mistake. Turn up, leaflet the kop (I will happily help with that, and might even be able to help with printing such a leaflet if you need the help) and sit in your seats and sing your hearts out. Bring balloons, streamers, ripped up newspaper - make sure everyone in the stadium is watching you almost as much as the game, and there is no way the stewards could move in to eject 30 or 40 people in such a fashion, without the whole stadium seeing what's going on. Good luck, guys.
LCFC-ARAB Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 Just to clarify, they didnt call you kids! sorry was a misunderstanding there. they thought that everyone emailing was part of the Fosse Boys so the club thought you were all just a bit younger than you are. sorry for the misunderstanding there and any problems that has caused
Ryanside Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 If they get you on the phone try and record it. You need to get some documentation of these accusations, then the media will lap it up
harpendenfox Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 Extraordinary. Should any of you guys get approached by the media and feel you need some help on how to approach it please feel free to get in touch with me. I'm a professional media trainer for companies, individuals etc and would be happy to offer advice (for free, of course). You want to make sure that you come across as honest lads simply wanting to support your team with passion. It is, after all, our team.
Edmund Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 Either way their still not taking the e-mails seriously which is completely hypocritical, considering it's an address solely for complaints and suggestions.
fleckneymike Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 If the club are going to be problematic, be constructively problematic back. Here's how. 1. Everyone in Fosse Boys sits down in a group. 2. Everyone sings 3. Randomly individuals stand up briefly before sitting back down continually during the match. It'll be like a mass whack a mole.
leftsideoverhere Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 IF we go to the game on saturday and sit and sing they will expect that evey game, how will we attarct people away from L1 and other parts of the ground if they look over and just see us sitting, the whole idea is to be bouncing away for 90 minutes every game, that's how we get noticed, it's already been said that L1 couldnt hear us, but they could see us! that is what will attract people to us, and that wont happen sitting down, no matter how loud we sing! we have over 2 weeks till the Cardiff game we just need to make that big. get as many people as possible for that and go for it all game, maybe get a message banner up saying something like 'supporters not customers' or something along those lines It's not about what the club 'expect', and in fact that couldn't be further from the point, mate. If you sit and sing - but bounce in your seats, throw confetti and streamers, blow up balloons and so on - everyone in the ground will still see you're there, and giving your support to the team. That makes it more likely you'll get bigger numbers for the Cardiff game, and perhaps can at that point make a concerted effort to stand up to the stewards, so to speak. You're creative people - you've shown that over the recent weeks with banners and flags and so on. I'm sure you can work out a way to be 'bouncing' even though you're not standing up. Lots of scarf waving, lots of movement, lots of concerted overhead clapping and so on, will keep your group in everyone's vision without giving the stewards an excuse to do anything against you. But 'going invisible' for this game will give other fans the impression the Fosse Boys were a one-hit wonder. That will make it harder to get other people lined up for the Cardiff game. Standing in L1 works because there's hundreds of people doing it. It doesn't matter whether the club expect those people to stand up or sit down. There's too many of them for the stewards to deal with. I understand your anger, but I fear your thinking has been clouded by it at the moment.
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