Leicester views wanted from Bristol City fan

[NickJ]

Hello Leicester fans, Bristol City fan here - loved Filbert Street, detest the Walkers.

I'm a football fan not a thug or a wind-up merchant, go back to the days of Weller, Birchenall was it, Nish, etc, so please take this for what it is.

Anyway, we have a bit of a raging debate going on over on our forum and I would be interested to hear your views.

http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/132350-east-end-racist-chants-wtf/

The majority of our fans think the songs exchanged on Saturday were banter, our club seem to think ours were racist.

Do Leicester fans think, especially Asian Leicester fans, that any of the songs being sung on Saturday were racist, and if so why?

Thanks.

[ThurnbyLodgeFox]

Should not be accepted, Forest scum are the worst, didnt know about this

[Bert]

If the shoe was on the other foot, and we were singing the songs which were sung at you, what would you think?

[Thracian]

Here we go again!

[Mee]

Obviously could be interpreted as racist , but it's football, no one is going to do anything about it.

Of the top of my head i can remember the '...Leicester's a shethole, it smells of curry...' 'Where's your poppadom'.

There were more sang, but i cannot recall what the words were.

[Guest Bilo]

I found them distasteful myself. 'Small town in Asia', 'Leicester stinks of curry' and 'Where's your poppadom' are hardly enlightened, witty or intelligent are they? It was like taking a trip back to the 1980s at times with songs like that being bandied around. Make no mistake, it was only one step down from the Leeds former favourite 'Town full of Pakis' we used to be subjected to at Filbert Street every year. There again, some of our fans (nowhere near as many thankfully) were singing that pissing song about Yuki eating dogs and one or two even thought 'E E EDL' was a good response to those questionable chants.

[ThurnbyLodgeFox]

I found them distasteful myself. 'Small town in Asia', 'Leicester stinks of curry' and 'Where's your poppadom' are hardly enlightened, witty or intelligent are they? It was like taking a trip back to the 1980s at times with songs like that being bandied around. Make no mistake, it was only one step down from the Leeds former favourite 'Town full of Pakis' we used to be subjected to at Filbert Street every year. There again, some of our fans (nowhere near as many thankfully) were singing that pissing song about Yuki eating dogs and one or two even thought 'E E EDL' was a good response to those questionable chants.

Bit of harmless fun... was at the Barnsley game, and most of the fans sang it. It was aimed at Barnsley's mascot as a joke. Nothing racist there. And for E E EDL, only Brown sang that

[Fosse Boy]

I found them distasteful myself. 'Small town in Asia', 'Leicester stinks of curry' and 'Where's your poppadom' are hardly enlightened, witty or intelligent are they? It was like taking a trip back to the 1980s at times with songs like that being bandied around. Make no mistake, it was only one step down from the Leeds former favourite 'Town full of Pakis' we used to be subjected to at Filbert Street every year. There again, some of our fans (nowhere near as many thankfully) were singing that pissing song about Yuki eating dogs and one or two even thought 'E E EDL' was a good response to those questionable chants.

Sums up my view pretty much .

[lcfcadam]

Of the top of my head i can remember the '...Leicester's a shethole, it smells of curry...' 'Where's your poppadom'.

I'm sorry but chants like that are absolutely no worse than any other localised chants (about homosexuality for Brighton, sheep-shagging for Wales etc). It's just taking the most widely known concept surrounding a place and using it within a generic song; just because one of Leicester's biggest cultural aspects is Asian culture, multiculturalism, curry etc does not mean using them in a chant is 'racism' (en masse, anyway, I'm sure there are always a few wankers that remain). My dad's side of the family comes from the Punjab so I kinda feel if anyone should be insulted by such things then I'd be included in the group.

EDIT: just seen the word 'distasteful' used to describe them. Yeah that's fair enough, but let's face it a lot of football banter is quite distasteful. I swear to God if I was actually an Indian City supporter sitting in the stand hearing "Where's your poppadom?" being chanted it would raise nothing more than a wry smile.

[Fosse Boy]

Bit of harmless fun... was at the Barnsley game, and most of the fans sang it. It was aimed at Barnsley's mascot as a joke. Nothing racist there. And for E E EDL, only Brown sang that

No, it's been sung since at least Swansea away and is a pile of fucking bollocks.

[Mee]

I'm sorry but chants like that are absolutely no worse than any other localised chants (about homosexuality for Brighton, sheep-shagging for Wales etc). It's just taking the most widely known concept surrounding a place and using it within a generic song; just because one of Leicester's biggest cultural aspects is Asian culture, multiculturalism, curry etc does not mean using them in a chant is 'racism' (en masse, anyway, I'm sure there are always a few wankers that remain). My dad's side of the family comes from the Punjab so I kinda feel if anyone should be insulted by such things then I'd be included in the group.

Personally it does not bother me. When we heard it, i laughed, but it could be interpreted as racist. It happens everywhere though, and it's only a harmless chant.

[Kitchandro]

Bit of harmless fun... was at the Barnsley game, and most of the fans sang it. It was aimed at Barnsley's mascot as a joke. Nothing racist there. And for E E EDL, only Brown sang that

I have heard that at our home games as well though. Not saying it's racist but it is pretty ignorant.

[Collier]

He should stop feasting on pooches if he doesn't want the singing to continue.

[Zingari]

Hello Leicester fans, Bristol City fan here - loved Filbert Street, detest the Walkers.

I'm a football fan not a thug or a wind-up merchant, go back to the days of Weller, Birchenall was it, Nish, etc, so please take this for what it is.

Anyway, we have a bit of a raging debate going on over on our forum and I would be interested to hear your views.

http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/132350-east-end-racist-chants-wtf/

The majority of our fans think the songs exchanged on Saturday were banter, our club seem to think ours were racist.

Do Leicester fans think, especially Asian Leicester fans, that any of the songs being sung on Saturday were racist, and if so why?

Thanks.

suprised you didn't mention chris garland and bobby kellard

[Guest Bilo]

I'm sorry but chants like that are absolutely no worse than any other localised chants (about homosexuality for Brighton, sheep-shagging for Wales etc). It's just taking the most widely known concept surrounding a place and using it within a generic song; just because one of Leicester's biggest cultural aspects is Asian culture, multiculturalism, curry etc does not mean using them in a chant is 'racism' (en masse, anyway, I'm sure there are always a few wankers that remain). My dad's side of the family comes from the Punjab so I kinda feel if anyone should be insulted by such things then I'd be included in the group.

With all due respect mate, I think you're over-intellectualising the songs. Fair play if you, with an Asian background, weren't offended but the implications of such songs are clear. Leicester is a shithole BECAUSE of the Asian population, its multiculturalism something to take the piss out of and that, in my humble opinion, is racist.

[CosbehFox]

Casual racism. The intent of the songs were negative making the connection of Asian community = shithole.

Wasn't on IMO

[Kitchandro]

With all due respect mate, I think you're over-intellectualising the songs. Fair play if you, with an Asian background, weren't offended but the implications of such songs are clear. Leicester is a shithole BECAUSE of the Asian population, its multiculturalism something to take the piss out of and that, in my humble opinion, is racist.

But as he mentions, are the chants towards the Brighton fans not homophobic too?

Now it's not for me to say whether these chants are offensive or just a bit of fun - but I don't see how these chants are worse than the ones which maybe considered homophobic.

[NickJ]

suprised you didn't mention chris garland and bobby kellard

Ha! Fair shout. Just about saw the era of Kellard as a wee lad, legend at Ashton Gate.

Anyway lads (and lasses) great response so far, thanks, all replies welcome but Asian views particularly relevant so if you don't mind indicating that, so much the better.

[lcfcadam]

With all due respect mate, I think you're over-intellectualising the songs. Fair play if you, with an Asian background, weren't offended but the implications of such songs are clear. Leicester is a shithole BECAUSE of the Asian population, its multiculturalism something to take the piss out of and that, in my humble opinion, is racist.

I see your point, but in this day and age I seriously fail to believe that everyone (in fact anyone, other than maybe the tiniest majority) singing those songs would actually hold any racist views at heart.

If they do, then there's a serious problem in that particular part of the world, something which life recently in various places has suggested is well on the road to being wiped out.

I personally just don't see that selection of chants as being something that a non-racist person definitely wouldn't sing (hope that makes sense), but I guess it's all a matter of personal opinion and grey areas.

[lcfc_jme]

It's far from cultural banter and could actually be something which can get you arrested and banned from attending football matches.

[foxoffderby]

Hello Leicester fans, Bristol City fan here - loved Filbert Street, detest the Walkers.

I'm a football fan not a thug or a wind-up merchant, go back to the days of Weller, Birchenall was it, Nish, etc, so please take this for what it is.

Anyway, we have a bit of a raging debate going on over on our forum and I would be interested to hear your views.

http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/132350-east-end-racist-chants-wtf/

The majority of our fans think the songs exchanged on Saturday were banter, our club seem to think ours were racist.

Do Leicester fans think, especially Asian Leicester fans, that any of the songs being sung on Saturday were racist, and if so why?

Thanks.

The fact that either yourself or others on your forum see it as just banter shows your ignorance the fact you must be in your 40's and you still don't understand why its a problem, then my friend you will never know. What a sad reflection on society you are.

[sdb]

distasteful imo

[Messi]

To be honest, I heard it and laughed about it, I classed it as banter. But there are plenty who would class it is racism.

There was an Asian lad in front of me and he seemed abit down after he heard them chants. But like its been mentioned its an area that is know for what they were singing, like Wales- Sheepshaggers.

[Fosse Boy]

Would you sing "Small town in Africa" at Palace or Millwall away (large black population in South London y'know)?

Thought not.

[ScouseFox]

Personally don't see how "just a small town in Asia" is any different from "just a small town in Wales", which gets an airing from most away fans travelling to Bristol.

If they were singing about Leicester being a shithole due to it's Asian population being big, then that's racist. All depends in what context you take it.