Racism

[FoxyPV]

I didn't know where else to put this and couldn't find a relevant topic so feel free to move if necessary.

League One - Pizza Hut 'refused to serve black players'

Mon, 06 Dec 17:28:00 2010

Pizza Hut have apologised to a group of black footballers who were told they would have to pay for their food before eating.

A group of Bournemouth players said they were targeted in the restaurant and told they would have to pay first because of "the way you look".

After training was cancelled because of the weather, six players had gone for a late lunch at Pizza Hut in Castle Lane West.

Midfielder Anton Robinson told the Bournemouth Daily Echo: "We ordered our food. The manager came up with the bill and said: 'Would you mind paying first?'

"We asked if that was the policy and he said 'no'. When we asked why he’d asked us, he said: 'It’s the way you look.'

"We had a good idea what he was trying to get at. A group of white kids came in straight after us and they weren’t asked to pay before they had their food. The only thing that was different was the colour of our skins.

"We said we were professional footballers and were happy to pay when we had finished. That’s what normal people do. He hadn’t asked other customers to pay before their meals.

"It got a little bit heated, then he said: 'If you’re not going to pay the bill now, I’m going to call the police to escort you off the premises'."

Robinson added: "We’re all grown men and we were smartly dressed. When the lads go out for a meal, we know we’re representing the club. We know that people recognise us and we have to behave.

"We were angry, but we kept our cool. The police spoke to customers who were eating around our table, and they said we were fine. We hadn’t shouted, kicked up a fuss or anything."

Another midfielder, Liam Feeney, added: "I couldn’t believe it. You don’t really expect it any more. I could understand it if all young men had to pay before their meal.

"The fact that there were other groups of white lads, younger than us, who weren’t asked didn’t really leave anything else for it to be."

A spokesman for Dorset Police confirmed that officers attended the restaurant after receiving a complaint from Pizza Hut about disruptive customers.

"A group of men had been asked to leave. They weren’t happy about this, but we spoke to them and they did leave," he said.

A spokesman for Pizza Hut said: "We do not tolerate any form of discrimination, so immediately investigated this incident. While our duty manager’s actions were absolutely not racially motivated, we are very sorry for the way this was handled.

"Police recently recommended that the restaurant started asking people to pay for their meal before dining, to combat a number of incidents where customers had left without paying.

"Unfortunately, it seems this approach was not enforced as a blanket policy and we have ensured all staff have been retrained. We will be contacting the customers concerned to apologise."

Bournemouth are third in League One.

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[Daggers]

Where's the racism?

[James.]

Where's the racism?

Right here you white twat.

[purpleronnie]

Because they were smartly dressed and whilst at the same time a group of white kids weren't asked for money up front, didn't you read it?

[Wymsey]

Their fault for going into there anyway. They should forget these unhealthy foods and carry on with the salads and energy drinks.

[Unit]

Their fault for going into there anyway. They should forget these unhealthy foods and carry on with the salads and energy drinks.

They might have been going to the salad bar thing at pizza hut...

[Daggers]

Because they were smartly dressed and whilst at the same time a group of white kids weren't asked for money up front, didn't you read it?

Unlike you, obviously, I take in information from numerous sources before knee-jerking to a judgement. One of which was an interview with the main protagonist in this farce who stated that his group wasn't just made up of young black men.

This wasn't racism, it was stereotyping. The manager had fallen victim to several groups not paying and this group fitted the profile of the previous ones. He may have demonstrated piss poor customer service skills but he wasn't being racist although I can appreciate it looks that way to people with their heads rammed up their arses.

[Daggers]

Right here you white twat.

[FoxyPV]

This wasn't racism, it was stereotyping.

Touche sir.

How to I edit the title of this thread to avoid further embarrassment?

[Fosse Boy]

They might have been going to the salad bar thing at pizza hut...

For an extra quid fifty or whatever it is? Nob off.

[Zingari]

[SystonFox]

Touche sir.

How to I edit the title of this thread to avoid further embarrassment?

That's not how the red tops reported it!!!

Ridiculous whichever way you look at it

[James.]

Unlike you, obviously, I take in information from numerous sources before knee-jerking to a judgement. One of which was an interview with the main protagonist in this farce who stated that his group wasn't just made up of young black men.

This wasn't racism, it was stereotyping. The manager had fallen victim to several groups not paying and this group fitted the profile of the previous ones. He may have demonstrated piss poor customer service skills but he wasn't being racist although I can appreciate it looks that way to people with their heads rammed up their arses.

In all likelihood you're right but at the same time how can you be sure there was no racism? The presence of black men in the group may have influenced the manager's decision whether conciously or sub-conciously - and that could be considered racist. I actually think many people have sub concious tendencies that respond to skin colour, race, etc - that doesn't necessarily make them complete cvnts but I do think it may affect their judgement in some situations. Without knowing the manager personally I don't know how you can be so sure what it was.

[Jon the Hat]

In all likelihood you're right but at the same time how can you be sure there was no racism? The presence of black men in the group may have influenced the manager's decision whether conciously or sub-conciously - and that could be considered racist. I actually think many people have sub concious tendencies that respond to skin colour, race, etc - that doesn't necessarily make them complete cvnts but I do think it may affect their judgement in some situations. Without knowing the manager personally I don't know how you can be so sure what it was.

I think we can be pretty sure the guy is an idiot.

[Zingari]

Yes ,it might have been racism.

Racism is one of the many possible explanations. Racism is also a possible explanation for why this story is a story at all - if some "white" men had been asked to pay in advance, it wouldn't have been an issue. It only matters if the customers are in an approved victim card holding group.

[Daggers]

I think we can be pretty sure the guy is an idiot.

Find me the post where I've ever denied it...

[MPH]

Yes ,it might have been racism.

Racism is one of the many possible explanations. Racism is also a possible explanation for why this story is a story at all - if some "white" men had been asked to pay in advance, it wouldn't have been an issue. It only matters if the customers are in an approved victim card holding group.

The unfortunate thing is, if you read the full story , a group of white teenagers came in right after them and were not asked to pay in advance.. if its a coincidance then its one of epic proportions.

However I was more concerned by the fact that of all places they chose to go to pizza hut when the training session was cancelled.

This might explain why they are 1st division footballers not champ or prem.

[purpleronnie]

Unlike you, obviously, I take in information from numerous sources before knee-jerking to a judgement. One of which was an interview with the main protagonist in this farce who stated that his group wasn't just made up of young black men.

This wasn't racism, it was stereotyping. The manager had fallen victim to several groups not paying and this group fitted the profile of the previous ones. He may have demonstrated piss poor customer service skills but he wasn't being racist although I can appreciate it looks that way to people with their heads rammed up their arses.

I was clearly replying to the article and answering your question, I didn't state that it was an accurate story, but simply answered based on the story pasted and your question, so whether it was reported correctly or not was irrelevant, if you had more knowledge on the story then you should have stated such. Nonse.

[Daggers]

<More evidence that I am a spineless, witless retard who suffers from a lack of humour and a limited cognitive capacity>

Taking a single story on face value just highlights what an utter braindead spastic you are.

The only thing you were clearly doing was demonstrating to the world, again, was what a ridiculous waste of a sperm and an egg you are. I presume your crack-whore mother was busy smoking tabs and necking gin while she was taking it up the arse from tramps on dole-money day.

I believe that people should make an effort to find out the facts surrounding a situation before slobbering over a knee-jerk opinion. Now I appreciate that your fetal hypoxia limits your ability to do this but you can always ask you carer to dig around a subject next time around.

[Trav Le Bleu]

Find me the post where I've ever denied it...

Hmmmm, the Daggers "I'm Not An Idiot!" thread... didn't that get closed a couple of years back after it threatened to crash the server?

[purpleronnie]

Taking a single story on face value just highlights what an utter braindead spastic you are.

The only thing you were clearly doing was demonstrating to the world, again, was what a ridiculous waste of a sperm and an egg you are. I presume your crack-whore mother was busy smoking tabs and necking gin while she was taking it up the arse from tramps on dole-money day.

I believe that people should make an effort to find out the facts surrounding a situation before slobbering over a knee-jerk opinion. Now I appreciate that your fetal hypoxia limits your ability to do this but you can always ask you carer to dig around a subject next time around.

Again, I wasn't commentating on whether the story was accurate or not, you asked where the racism was, and it was pretty obvious from the article posted, it wasnt a knee jerk reaction as I was simply answering your question.

Maybe you should relax. Or maybe search around for that sense of humour you think I'm missing

[Dickie Greenleaf]

Taking a single story on face value just highlights what an utter braindead spastic you are.

The only thing you were clearly doing was demonstrating to the world, again, was what a ridiculous waste of a sperm and an egg you are. I presume your crack-whore mother was busy smoking tabs and necking gin while she was taking it up the arse from tramps on dole-money day.

I believe that people should make an effort to find out the facts surrounding a situation before slobbering over a knee-jerk opinion. Now I appreciate that your fetal hypoxia limits your ability to do this but you can always ask you carer to dig around a subject next time around.

For someone bemoaning a knee-jerk reaction, you're handling this situation in a well-considered manner.

[purpleronnie]

For someone bemoaning a knee-jerk reaction, you're handling this situation in a well-considered manner.

[Zingari]

The unfortunate thing is, if you read the full story , a group of white teenagers came in right after them and were not asked to pay in advance.. if its a coincidance then its one of epic proportions.

However I was more concerned by the fact that of all places they chose to go to pizza hut when the training session was cancelled.

This might explain why they are 1st division footballers not champ or prem.

it wouldn't really have been a massive coincidence , would it ?

A group of friends and I were searched on entering a football ground and a group of asian lads went in unhindered alongside us

it's just called discretion on the part of the police and i accepted it as just that

Perhaps i'm just not sensitive enough to these things and should have complained loudly and strongly about victimisation

[Daggers]

For someone bemoaning a knee-jerk reaction, you're handling this situation in a well-considered manner.

There is nothing sadder than discovering another window is missing its licker.