Kitchandro Posted 12 January 2011 Posted 12 January 2011 The answer to this thread is NO - stick with the system we've got because it's starting to work. Where's the logic in chopping and changing when we're playing well? We don't even know if Yakubu will be an good yet.
MikeyT Posted 12 January 2011 Posted 12 January 2011 All about the 4 3 3 - Yakubu in the middle with his little bitch whippets either side. Sexy Ha
Houdini Logic Posted 12 January 2011 Posted 12 January 2011 Vassell yak and dyer. Svens racist ! If you think that's racist wait until you see Danny Uchechi
cairnsy Posted 12 January 2011 Posted 12 January 2011 King can't play in a 4 4 2. Sven bums king so therefor will stick to 4 3 3 with the yak, Vassel and dyer/Gallagher
Haydos Posted 12 January 2011 Posted 12 January 2011 However I dream of some serious changes, something like, Weale Naughton--Hobbs--Mee--BernerKing--BambaVassell--Gallagher--DyerYakubu I don't think Gallagher's cut out to be any part of the battle in midfield and he also lack the tactical nous defensively. This would effectively leave a 2 man midfield, 1 down on we often struggle with away from home. I think if someone is going to occupy the attacking midfield position (Wellens/Gally) then the wingers need to sit a lot deep than usual to pack the midfield. Unless you have a lot of talent I think you need to use the wingers as an outlet or an advanced midfielder, currently we use wingers but i'd like to see this in action at some point as well
renards Posted 12 January 2011 Posted 12 January 2011 3- 5- 2 seems not a bad shout. MON hand was forced when he realised he couldn't leave out Elliot, Tagget oe Walsh, Sven could be the same
cc_star Posted 12 January 2011 Posted 12 January 2011 Our 4-3-3 is interchangeable with 4-5-1 depending on the amount of pressure we're applying or pressure that we're under Dyer will probably be the one sidelined and Gallagher moved over, with Vassell dropping back Weale Naughton - Samba - Hobbs/Mee - BernerAbe - Wellens - KingVassell - Yakubu - Gallagher Which will seamlessly morph in WealeNaughton - Samba - Hobbs/Mee - BernerVassell - Abe - Wellens - King - GallagherYakubu Anything else will require wholesale changes of the midfield too - which don't look like they're happening
Houdini Logic Posted 12 January 2011 Posted 12 January 2011 Our 4-3-3 is interchangeable with 4-5-1 depending on the amount of pressure we're applying or pressure that we're under Dyer will probably be the one sidelined and Gallagher moved over, with Vassell dropping back Weale Naughton - Samba - Hobbs/Mee - BernerAbe - Wellens - KingVassell - Yakubu - Gallagher Which will seamlessly morph in WealeNaughton - Samba - Hobbs/Mee - BernerVassell - Abe - Wellens - King - GallagherYakubu Anything else will require wholesale changes of the midfield too - which don't look like they're happening Loving our new Brazilian centre back. Looks good to me - though with Dyer and Gally changing between who's on form.
marbelladave Posted 12 January 2011 Posted 12 January 2011 I don't think Gallagher's cut out to be any part of the battle in midfield and he also lack the tactical nous defensively. This would effectively leave a 2 man midfield, 1 down on we often struggle with away from home. I think if someone is going to occupy the attacking midfield position (Wellens/Gally) then the wingers need to sit a lot deep than usual to pack the midfield. Unless you have a lot of talent I think you need to use the wingers as an outlet or an advanced midfielder, currently we use wingers but i'd like to see this in action at some point as well Giving Gallagher such a pivotal role is clearly a gamble but having him in a central role with 2 midfielders covering could be considered a better option (defensively) than playing him wide, when he is usually the only cover for our fullback. In essence Gallagher and the wide men do need to contribute in midfield defensively, but with two men covering this could be enough. In recent months we have tended to use our fulbacks as an outlet as much if not more than our wide men, if we continue, this should allow the 3 attacking players to play narrow and support the frontman, roles that both Vassell and Waghorn are comfortable with. With 2 men holding when the fullbacks get forward we should be a lot less vulnerable to the counter. I appreciate that this is all speculative but I do believe we need a real shake up with the emphasis on reconstructing a midfield that for me remains substantially less than the sum of it's parts.
Christoph Posted 12 January 2011 Posted 12 January 2011 In this thread: People discussing their football manager tactics
marbelladave Posted 12 January 2011 Posted 12 January 2011 In this thread: People discussing their football manager tactics You have a problem with that...?
Christoph Posted 12 January 2011 Posted 12 January 2011 You have a problem with that...? Nope. Would it have sufficed more if I added an '' at the end of the sentance to show the light heartedness of my sentance?
marbelladave Posted 12 January 2011 Posted 12 January 2011 Nope. Would it have sufficed more if I added an '' at the end of the sentance to show the light heartedness of my sentance? Just twigged... Were you refering to a computer game called 'Football Manager' or somesuch...? I think I may have heard of this, sounds like fun, will it run on on my Apricot?
Fox1651 Posted 12 January 2011 Posted 12 January 2011 just a thought - how about the following Weale Naughton Hobbs Bamba Mee Abe King Wellens Dyer Waghorn Yakubu Subs Vassell Berner Logan Howard Gallagher Oakley Schlupp
Haydos Posted 12 January 2011 Posted 12 January 2011 just a thought - how about the following Weale Naughton Hobbs Bamba Mee Abe King Wellens Dyer Waghorn Yakubu Subs Vassell Berner Logan Howard Gallagher Oakley Schlupp Because Vassell would be on the bench <_<
Captain... Posted 12 January 2011 Posted 12 January 2011 Ok, lets get champ man on your asses: GK: Weale no other choice atm RB: Naughton Nielson LB: Berner RWB: Naughton LWB: No one CB: Hobbs, Bamba, Mee unknown, Vitor Tunchev injured CDM: Abe CM: Wellens, King, Abe, Moussa, Oakley CAM: King? Gallagher? neither really proven in this role RW: Gallagher? no pace, Vassell? Never played well on the wing maybe more suited to the right than left but a gamble LW: Dyer CF: Vassell, Yakubu (hopefully), Waghorn, Howard RF: Gallagher, Waghorn, Vasell LF: Dyer, Waghorn, Vassell Looking at what we currently have available we have to play a back 4 at least until Vitor or Tunchev are back, we can't be trying to play 3 centre backs when we only have 3, and we can't be playing with wing backs when we don't have a left sided wing back. So Weale, Naughton, Hobbs, Bamba, Berner, pick themselves by default with Neilson and Mee providing cover. We can't play 4 across the middle as we have no right winger, Gallagher has no pace and won't support the full back Vassell is much better down the middle and hasn't played well on the wings yet. We can't really drop either Abe, Wellens or King and they are forming a good understanding together but none of them are wide players and we can't rely on Naughton to provide the width and defend the right flank. So that leaves Gally, Vassell, Dyer, Waghorn, Yakubu and Howard competing for the forward line. Barring injury I would expect Gally Vassell and Dyer to start against PNE and Yakubu to be introduced in the second half. None of them deserve to be dropped for the last few weeks performances. Who comes off for Yakubu depends on the situation how PNE are playing and who is or isn't having an affect. As for do we need to be playing 442, then no, we don't but it would be good to have the players that would be able to make that formation work, at the moment we are 1 maybe 2 away (genuine RW, or attacking LB to allow a diamond in the middle, or a defensive playmaking midfielder to play alongside King). All of this could change in the next few weeks with transfers in and out, if Wellens does go to Brum, then we would struggle to play a 433 as we have no-one who does what he does, but replace him with a quality (for this level) RW then we have a very balanced looking 442.
shailen Posted 13 January 2011 Posted 13 January 2011 For me Weale Naughton. Bamba. Hobbs. Berner Abe. Wellens. King Gallagher Yakubu. Vassell
ajthefox Posted 13 January 2011 Posted 13 January 2011 As has already been pointed out a couple of times, all thats going to change is either dyer or gallagher will be dropped, vassell will go out wide and the Yak up top.
yag101 Posted 13 January 2011 Posted 13 January 2011 Our 4-3-3 is interchangeable with 4-5-1 depending on the amount of pressure we're applying or pressure that we're under Dyer will probably be the one sidelined and Gallagher moved over, with Vassell dropping back Weale Naughton - Samba - Hobbs/Mee - BernerAbe - Wellens - KingVassell - Yakubu - Gallagher Which will seamlessly morph in WealeNaughton - Samba - Hobbs/Mee - BernerVassell - Abe - Wellens - King - GallagherYakubu Anything else will require wholesale changes of the midfield too - which don't look like they're happening At home, I reckon it'll probably morph into WealeNaughton - Samba - Hobbs/Mee - BernerAbe - Wellens - King - GallagherVassell - Yakubu especially if we're chasing a game really...
lcfcsam Posted 13 January 2011 Posted 13 January 2011 Eriksson set to consider tactical shift Following the sumptuous loan capture of Yakubu Aiyegbeni from Premier League side Everton, Leicester City manager Sven Goran Eriksson now faces a number of troublesome decisions as his side head to Preston North End’s Deepdale hoping to make it three league wins on the bounce. Since his high profile, and unforeseen, arrival at Filbert Way back in October Eriksson has been almost regimentally insistent on playing a 4-5-1 formation which can be manipulated into holding a three-man attack, should the match demand it. During those early weeks Martyn Waghorn was the holder of the lone attacking role, and then came Steve Howard, until Darius Vassell arrived on the back of a short stay in Turkey with Ankaragücü. For a short while Vassell had to make do with a role on the right wing, a position he struggled to fully manoeuvre in, meaning he was unable to have a substantial effect on the games he played in. Eriksson’s solution to this problem was to move Vassell into the forward role, after Roman Bednar’s unfulfilling stay, and it reaped rewards immediately. In the first game with the new lead striker the former Manchester City man found the net with a powerful volley which proved to be the winning goal over Nigel Pearson’s Hull City. Vassell played in the same position for the next Championship match and again he scored the winner, this time against high-flying Swansea City. Not only did this tactical change give the striker more licence to roam forward but it also resulted in the inclusion of Lloyd Dyer on the left wing, as Paul Gallagher was switched back to the right. The speedy winger helped Leicester get behind the opposition on more occasions, thus creating more chances. The Foxes were hitting top form as they reached the top half for the first time this season. The same match plan was implemented in the impeccable display against Manchester City in the FA Cup, which resulted in a 2-2 draw, meaning City had not lost since the former England man had been pushed further forward. It allowed Gallagher to whip balls in, Dyer to endeavour forward, Yuki Abe to break up play, Richie Wellens to deliver killer balls and Andy King to make those, now iconic, late bursts forward. Now however Eriksson has a though decision on his hands with Yakubu, a proven player at Premier League level, set to either replace the in-form Vassell or push him back into his previously ineffective role. If he was to be excluded from the starting eleven he would be left wondering what he has to do to keep his place while if he is returned to the right hand side either Gallagher or Dyer, both in impressive form, will have to drop back down to the bench. Of course Sven could revert back to 4-4-2, a formation he religiously used during his spell in charge of England, meaning Yakubu and Vassell can play together while both wingers will also keep their place. However the supreme midfield trio of Abe, King and Wellens will be disassembled. Supporters, wary of the Japanese man’s talents in the early days, have learned to love the small midfielder while King and Wellens have been fans favourites for the previous few years. Whatever decision Eriksson decides to take, it will have to be thought through expertly by him and his coaching team but over the previous months we’ve come to expect nothing less. Latest entry from my blog. Link
dobbylcfc Posted 13 January 2011 Posted 13 January 2011 My Team Now would be Weale Naughton Hobbs Bamba Berner Abe Wellens King Vassell Gallagher Yakubu
Starkwell Posted 13 January 2011 Posted 13 January 2011 For me Weale Naughton. Bamba. Hobbs. Berner Abe. Wellens. King Gallagher Yakubu. Vassell I think this could be more or less the answer, but assume that gallagher will have a free roll, in much the way he now shifts from wing to wing. The amount of pitch covered by Gally against Man city was extraordinary. It is the natural sort of half way point between 433 and 442 - it has potential as it keeps the general set up of the def/mid that we are currently using but with more attacking options- Though the down side is that it could leave us a little weak defensively, with no real option to drop to 451.
Haydos Posted 13 January 2011 Posted 13 January 2011 I think this could be more or less the answer, Width, width, width. If the full backs aren't spot on (and berner is no wing back) then it can go to pot quite easily.
Donatello Posted 14 January 2011 Posted 14 January 2011 I'm not denying that, he does scare full backs and he causes all sorts of probems, but, he gets put through one on one so often and flops almost every time. Look at Millwall away for example! I'm simply saying that we could do with someone who scares full backs like Dyer can but someone who will score when given a chance. Fair enough he's not the most naturally composed player, but with his pace and dribbling as well as a better crossing ability this season he's our best winger.
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