marbelladave Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 As opposed to what though? I see your point but surely the alternative is to just stick with what we've got and be in the same position with just the players we've signed thus far. Obviously we need to push for promotion and the way to do that is by getting in better players. Or we could just sign players that are good enough for the championship but not the prem so they will stick with us whether we go up or not. I know what i'd rather us do... Personally I think the Club and Sven are playing this pretty damn well. No stupid, big name, past their sell by signings, (so far anyway ) but a bunch of players good enough to get promotion. All this activity confirms that we are 'going for it' this season and players are being brought in, short term, to make it happen. Rebuild again in the summer once promotion and all that lovely Premier League money is assured. Welcome to modern football...
STUHILL Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 How big a problem is having a Right footed player playing in the LCB role? I'm genuinely curious as I haven't put much thought into it before. At the moment, Bamba and Davies look like the favourites to secure those places, both Right Footed. Surely if it was a big problem, then Sven would have recognised this, therefore I'm thinking it's not such a big problem??
Houdini Logic Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 Thats what i'm trying to say though, i'm not trying to put a downer on anything but if we don't go up, were going to lose practically our entire defence. Call me deluded but if we don't go up we're going to get pretty close and these players will know what Sven and the owners are trying to achieve at this club. Remember when Sven took over at the club we were bottom of the Championship and even still look at the pulling power we had?! It'll all work out fine
Guest bennytwohats Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 Personally I think the Club and Sven are playing this pretty damn well. No stupid, big name, past their sell by signings, (so far anyway ) but a bunch of players good enough to get promotion. All this activity confirms that we are 'going for it' this season and players are being brought in, short term, to make it happen. Rebuild again in the summer once promotion and all that lovely Premier League money is assured. Welcome to modern football... Yeah i agree. The most important thing is that we keep playing better football - which we clearly are. Don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves but on recent performances it does give you a bit of confidence that IF we did manage to get to the playoffs then we actually have a decent shot at them, Pretty crushing i'm going away to Asia mid-april so i'm going to have to give my season ticket away and miss the end of the season!
Jordan Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 On one hand, is worried that Leicester are relying so heavily on loan signings. Yes, I know that there's a good chance LCFC are paying big portions of these players wages, which hints at our owners' willingness to spend, but I'm worried about having to rip it all up and start from scratch next year if Leicester fall short of promotion (well, the odds are certainly against promotion). It seems particularly more difficult to get a brand new back line settled in together than a new group of forwards, too. On the other hand, I'm glad Sven's bringing Davies back and, well, I wouldn't be upset with van Aanholt coming along as well. I also understand that the transfer windows really put a lot of time restrictions on managers working on transfer deals. And the loan signings Sven have made have all been upgrades on the players already here, so Sven's eye for talent still works--and I suppose I cannot doubt his ability to make similar signings next season if necessary. It's not easy convincing some players to drop one division but Sven's done all right in this regard. In the end, I'll trust Sven once again because of the clear improvement in the squad since he's taken over (some of that starting when Davies was brought in) and I'll worry about next season after this one. As for Davies' perceived poor attitude, I wonder how much of what happened in the end of December and January was of Aston Villa's doing. Davies was injured, was he not? And since they were talking to other clubs interested in buying Davies, I'd assume Villa would want to keep him away from playing games as they'd hate for him to get hurt, fail a medical and ruin a deal.
Southern Fox Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 Sorry been on the go all day at work Whats the latest with Davies and this new left back?? Where have we got these links from
STUHILL Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 Sorry been on the go all day at work Whats the latest with Davies and this new left back?? Where have we got these links from Stringers tweet, both joining on loan and mirror I think. Transfer section has details
One Arm Babba Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 Thats what i'm trying to say though, i'm not trying to put a downer on anything but if we don't go up, were going to lose practically our entire defence.If we failed to get promotion, and didnt sign any of the loanees permanatly we'd be left with :-NeilsonBernerBamba (if no premierships offer us stupid money for him in the summer, which it looks like they might)HobbsParkesLameyAgain i'm not trying to put a downer on anything, but that dosnt look good at all, were putting all our eggs in the promotion basket and it's a real risk. Thats a wild assumption duck. What if he gets dropped for the remainder of the season? We are simply not over extending ourselves in the same way the loan players are not committing long term deals to a championship club. What I think it clearly shows is serious ambitions this year. We are looking to have a real go. With these calibre players coming in we are giving ourselves every chance.
marbelladave Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 How big a problem is having a Right footed player playing in the LCB role? I'm genuinely curious as I haven't put much thought into it before. At the moment, Bamba and Davies look like the favourites to secure those places, both Right Footed. Surely if it was a big problem, then Sven would have recognised this, therefore I'm thinking it's not such a big problem?? Depends on the player. some right footed players are perfectly happy playing on the left, some, Hobbs for example are not. Clearly not just about whether a player is right or left footed, more to it than that, maybe it's just where you are use to playing, maybe other factors. Hobbs best play ever was alongside Tunchev, a fine combination, much more than just 'right foot - left foot', they just gelled and were superb. You can see from just watching that Hobbs is barely half the player on the left, you don't need to know why, it's obvious. Yeah i agree. The most important thing is that we keep playing better football - which we clearly are. Don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves but on recent performances it does give you a bit of confidence that IF we did manage to get to the playoffs then we actually have a decent shot at them, Pretty crushing i'm going away to Asia mid-april so i'm going to have to give my season ticket away and miss the end of the season! Spot on, tighten up at the back, sort out our away form and we can do it. We will have to have played pretty well to get to the play offs from here, so we should have the momentum with us Benny - Get Foxes player so you can listen online, not that expensive and good for an expat, commentaries and decent highlights, definitely worth it! By the way, where are you off to, anywhere nice? Asia's an awfully big place.
m00nie Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 I don't really think he just gave up any game, he made a couple of mistakes who hasen't this season? Right....it was all his fault was it, I always thought football was a team game played by 11 men. If he really can't be bothered and doesn't bother to come to training then why does Sven still fancy him? If somebody wants to try to better themselves, does that mean he hasan attidude? I think were lucky to have him here if he does come and I welcome him with open arms I don't think I've really missed anything, perhaps your not really living on the same planet as the rest of us and reading too much into this. He seems quite excited to be coming back on his tweet. Does that sound like somebody who can't be bothered? (joining Svens Revoultion etc) i must be living on the same planet as him as i see it how he said it also. towards the end he just didnt seem interested, wasnt focused properly which shown on the pitch. there wasnt much talk of many clubs queing up to sign him so even though he was open to say he wanted premiership football without talks/offers why didnt he concentrate on us. surely the best way to get yourself noticed is to play your best. even now we only have him because celtic couldnt.. theres no doubt hes got talent and hopefully now hes here for the rest of the season he will focus on us and put in 100%
FuriousFox46 Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 To be fair, Kyle Naughton is slightly arrogant, but he's talented and committed and since he'll be here until May he can fully commit himself and there's no reason to doubt Davies' ability.
Guest bennytwohats Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 Benny - Get Foxes player so you can listen online, not that expensive and good for an expat, commentaries and decent highlights, definitely worth it! By the way, where are you off to, anywhere nice? Asia's an awfully big place. Good shout, i may just do that. Hopefully might even catch a couple of games in full over there. Gonna be spending 3-4 weeks in Thailand and then Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, China and finally Japan - 4 months altogether.
dimmerchant Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 To be fair, Kyle Naughton is slightly arrogant, but he's talented and committed and since he'll be here until May he can fully commit himself and there's no reason to doubt Davies' ability. Don't think he comes across arrogant in his play nor his interviews, actually. Think he's fairly humble for a young player with the world at his feet and bags of ducats.
Kent Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 Don't think he comes across arrogant in his play nor his interviews, actually. Think he's fairly humble for a young player with the world at his feet and bags of ducats. Yeah me too, not quite sure where FuriousFox has got this impression from. Seems like a nice lad to be honest.
Haydos Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 Generic youtube clip alert! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb76_U0Y-us Seems to like getting forward, don't know how much that was due to Chelsea pressure but looks like he'd fit right in.
Kitchandro Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 Oh FFS, I'm sick of people in here always feeling sorry for players. The modern day footballer doesn't care about individual clubs any more. It's all about their own careers and money. I don't begrudge them that but equally I won't ever feel sorry for them. They get paid crap loads to kick a ball about. We should play the best players available to us, and although Hobbs was great last season and before, he Waggy and perhaps Berner too have not looked as good this year and we don't have time to hang about and give them so many games to re-discover that form. It's a harsh life being a football player... Or is it? Not really when you think about it. Pretty sure Hobbs would move away and not think twice if he was offered more money or a bigger Club, so equally if we have potentially better players come in, we shouldn't think twice either. It's not so much feeling sorry for them, it's having a team I can relate to. Players I have a rapport with. Building a team and not buying it, so that when we win something it means something. That is why I want to see players like Hobbs and Waghorn shown faith, because they have a relationship with the fans and moreover have shown they are good enough in the past. I want players to want to play for us, like Martin O'Neill's team did. I feel that Hobbs and Waggy can become legends for us like those players were, if they are given some faith by the manager. Henry for example, could never be a legend for us and if he had come would not have had enough time to make an impact on our season, yet some people seemed desperate to have him. How is that a better attitude than wanting Sven to have faith in contracted players who have shown promise? Let me ask you - If Sven bought a whole new squad tomorrow, we won every game from now til the end of the season and finished top of the league, would you be happy or would part of you think, what was the point in that? If I can't relate to my football Club then winning things is irrelevant. That's the whole point of supporting a Club like Leicester and not being a glory hunter. I'm not saying Sven has ruined my relationship with the players, but it seems some people wouldn't care if he did. So that's why people want players like Hobbs to succeed, if you were wondering.
Houdini Logic Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 To be fair, Kyle Naughton is slightly arrogant, but he's talented and committed and since he'll be here until May he can fully commit himself and there's no reason to doubt Davies' ability. Only arrogant on the pitch and that's exactly what we want
gibwarrior1988 Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 It's not so much feeling sorry for them, it's having a team I can relate to. Players I have a rapport with. Building a team and not buying it, so that when we win something it means something. That is why I want to see players like Hobbs and Waghorn shown faith, because they have a relationship with the fans and moreover have shown they are good enough in the past. I want players to want to play for us, like Martin O'Neill's team did. I feel that Hobbs and Waggy can become legends for us like those players were, if they are given some faith by the manager. Henry for example, could never be a legend for us and if he had come would not have had enough time to make an impact on our season, yet some people seemed desperate to have him. How is that a better attitude than wanting Sven to have faith in contracted players who have shown promise? Let me ask you - If Sven bought a whole new squad tomorrow, we won every game from now til the end of the season and finished top of the league, would you be happy or would part of you think, what was the point in that? If I can't relate to my football Club then winning things is irrelevant. That's the whole point of supporting a Club like Leicester and not being a glory hunter. I'm not saying Sven has ruined my relationship with the players, but it seems some people wouldn't care if he did. So that's why people want players like Hobbs to succeed, if you were wondering. Very well put, that's what I have been trying to say. It seems some people on here wouldn't bat an eyelid if they didn't even know the names of people who were playing for their club; aslong as those players got them promoted to the premier league.
hackneyfox Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 The connection between the players and fans was broken years ago when we kept signing crap. I'd be happy as a pig in shit if we won the league or came second and couldn't really care whether they are new players or not. Those players have no connection with the club or fans, they'll kiss the badge today and fook off tomorrow if offered premier football or a salary increase. People spend years moaning about the poor quality of football. People spend years moaning about a lack of money. When we finally get some money and massively improve both the quality of the players and, more importantly, the quality of football we play then what do some people do? Moan! As Davie G mentioned, if you want to mess your pants through excitement about the quality of player coming in you can't start crying when a former favourite leaves. Something along those lines anyway. If Weale, Hobbs, Berner & Waghorn leave or don't get another game this season, then it is a sign that they have the wrong attitude or just simply aren't good enough.
Guest bennytwohats Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 Kitchandro - it's slightly different though. Sven is new here, it's not like Wenger at Arsenal where he has been building his team/squad for years. Developing youth and a squad of players is something that is done in the long term - what we have is a short term goal of getting back to the premier league. What comes next comes next. Though I agree it would be sad to wee Waggy and Hobbs leave. I think a developing squad is something that comes from stability (in particular keeeping hold of your manager for a few years) - for that to happen i'd say getting promoted needs to happen first.
Kitchandro Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 The connection between the players and fans was broken years ago when we kept signing crap. I'd be happy as a pig in shit if we won the league or came second and couldn't really care whether they are new players or not. Those players have no connection with the club or fans, they'll kiss the badge today and fook off tomorrow if offered premier football or a salary increase. People spend years moaning about the poor quality of football. People spend years moaning about a lack of money. When we finally get some money and massively improve both the quality of the players and, more importantly, the quality of football we play then what do some people do? Moan! As Davie G mentioned, if you want to mess your pants through excitement about the quality of player coming in you can't start crying when a former favourite leaves. Something along those lines anyway. If Weale, Hobbs, Berner & Waghorn leave or don't get another game this season, then it is a sign that they have the wrong attitude or just simply aren't good enough. Not for me it wasn't. Maybe that explains why you're so miserable
marbelladave Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 Good shout, i may just do that. Hopefully might even catch a couple of games in full over there. Gonna be spending 3-4 weeks in Thailand and then Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, China and finally Japan - 4 months altogether. Hell of a nice trip. Work or play? A good few years a go we travelled from Bangkok to Changmai, then over the mountains to Vientiane by road! From there we followed the Mekon down to Saigon (can't call it anything else), mostly by riverboat. Pretty amazing but also pretty scary at times. Enjoy!
Guest bennytwohats Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 Hell of a nice trip. Work or play? A good few years a go we travelled from Bangkok to Changmai, then over the mountains to Vientiane by road! From there we followed the Mekon down to Saigon (can't call it anything else), mostly by riverboat. Pretty amazing but also pretty scary at times. Enjoy! Thanks mate. Play - heading out with the lady, finished uni last year and we both start 'career jobs' in September, so the trip should nicely mark the end of one thing and the beginning of another! That all sounds amazing, can't wait to experience all of it for myself! Hopefully back in time for the start of the premier league
ajthefox Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 So that's probably the end of hobbs for the season and possibly more..
marbelladave Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 It's not so much feeling sorry for them, it's having a team I can relate to. Players I have a rapport with. Building a team and not buying it, so that when we win something it means something. That is why I want to see players like Hobbs and Waghorn shown faith, because they have a relationship with the fans and moreover have shown they are good enough in the past. I want players to want to play for us, like Martin O'Neill's team did. I feel that Hobbs and Waggy can become legends for us like those players were, if they are given some faith by the manager. Henry for example, could never be a legend for us and if he had come would not have had enough time to make an impact on our season, yet some people seemed desperate to have him. How is that a better attitude than wanting Sven to have faith in contracted players who have shown promise? Let me ask you - If Sven bought a whole new squad tomorrow, we won every game from now til the end of the season and finished top of the league, would you be happy or would part of you think, what was the point in that? If I can't relate to my football Club then winning things is irrelevant. That's the whole point of supporting a Club like Leicester and not being a glory hunter. I'm not saying Sven has ruined my relationship with the players, but it seems some people wouldn't care if he did. So that's why people want players like Hobbs to succeed, if you were wondering. Great post in almost all respects. Sadly no longer remotely relevant to football at the highest level. Holloway's Blackpool have tried incredibly hard to do things the right way, but it's beginning to fall apart, current players want more money, repacements won't come for the money on offer, the rest of the season is going to be very tough. Personally I find this pretty sad but at the end of the day it's just another facet of modern life I don't much like but can do nothing about. I've tried getting involved in lower league football, but it's not City and City are my club and they belong in the Premier League. Given the strength of the relegated clubs (most seasons anyway) spending the money is really the only option...
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