Finnegan Posted 17 March 2011 Posted 17 March 2011 http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/viral-spread-of-bullying-video-may-encourage-more-acts-says-expert-20110315-1bvx1.html lol I love that article "this video may encourage more acts of bullying and violence!!!" ... "but we're going to show it again for you here incase you haven't seen it." Hahaha.
Nick Posted 17 March 2011 Posted 17 March 2011 A few personal 'comeuppance' favourites: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VcQO3pvywE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxMDFWUjBrk&playnext=1&list=PL9C06EE81485CD5B3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eDJgYITx94&feature=related
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 17 March 2011 Posted 17 March 2011 There brilliant love the bottom one he drops the blokes about 5 times
Jackirius Posted 17 March 2011 Posted 17 March 2011 I've seen something like the third one happen before, a few years ago and this guy about 20 was laying into a kid about 15/16 and he just tried to walk away, got a bit heated he beat him to the ground then some guy walked past all nonchalant and laid one right on his nose, knocked him clean out.
purpleronnie Posted 17 March 2011 Posted 17 March 2011 Picked on the wrong cross dresser. Feel for the big lad looked like he was trying to stop his mate.
Jackirius Posted 17 March 2011 Posted 17 March 2011 This is a personal favourite, too. That one is just pure quality, deserved it for hitting the woman in the first place. The guy goes fvcking mental.
StanSP Posted 17 March 2011 Posted 17 March 2011 That one is just pure quality You just don't hit a woman or at least one with a boxer as a boyfriend!
Steven Posted 21 March 2011 Posted 21 March 2011 What made 'Casey the Punisher' turn on his bully: Teen YouTube sensation reveals how three years of torment left him suicidal
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 21 March 2011 Posted 21 March 2011 They just interviewed the bully on tv will try to find a clip
OzFox Posted 21 March 2011 Posted 21 March 2011 A few personal 'comeuppance' favourites: Nice collection. Are you a vigilante in your spare time?
Nick Posted 21 March 2011 Posted 21 March 2011 Nice collection. Are you a vigilante in your spare time? It's actually part of a lecture I give when exploring concepts of 'justice' videos like that are good for helping people explore their values and make prejudicial judgements........ then you apply some alternative narratives and ask people how they feel about the video then........ fun teaching and learning!
OzFox Posted 21 March 2011 Posted 21 March 2011 It's actually part of a lecture I give when exploring concepts of 'justice' videos like that are good for helping people explore their values and make prejudicial judgements........ then you apply some alternative narratives and ask people how they feel about the video then........ fun teaching and learning! You mean, the fat kid might not be such a hero after all?
Zingari Posted 21 March 2011 Posted 21 March 2011 It's actually part of a lecture I give when exploring concepts of 'justice' videos like that are good for helping people explore their values and make prejudicial judgements........ then you apply some alternative narratives and ask people how they feel about the video then........ fun teaching and learning! Sounds very interesting Actually in one of the videos that you posted , ( the one where the two guys are standing in the park and hit the woman ) I think it looks as though the man could possibly have hit her by accident as he seemed to be pointing out directions or something just moments earlier , and i believe that video could be given the alternative narrative treatment to make the boxer appear to over react ,, and not be the avenging hero . is that the sort of thing you mean ?
Nick Posted 21 March 2011 Posted 21 March 2011 Sounds very interesting Actually in one of the videos that you posted , ( the one where the two guys are standing in the park and hit the woman ) I think it looks as though the man could possibly have hit her by accident as he seemed to be pointing out directions or something just moments earlier , and i believe that video could be given the alternative narrative treatment to make the boxer appear to over react ,, and not be the avenging hero . is that the sort of thing you mean ? Yeah, that video for instance is on youtube with a variety of titles relating from 'happy slapping' to 'don't mess with gypsies' - the people in it and I suspect the location is from eastern europe going by some of the dialogue and attire, so the titles may be inaccurate and applied for a cultural purpose of 'social justice' to suit a given audience. As the for big lad who snaps, imagine watching the video from a different perspective eg the smaller lad having been the subject of bullying for years or avenging an attack on his sister or being the parent of one of the boys......... it changes the way we feel about things, thus changing the humour of the video and the sense of satisfaction from the perceived 'social justice' the outcome of the text/video brings us. It's all about context. The outcome is that without all the facts and having an impartial and removed position on a situation our judgement is tainted by our own perceptions, emotions, experiences and prejudices - which is why we have an independent body to look at offences and propose appropriate sentences to courts and judge the motives and circumstances and needs of victims and offenders as an impartial and independent body....... hence Youth Offending Teams and the Probation Service. It's the picture in the paper... is the guy stabbing a man in the back or is he pulling out the knife and about to administer first aid............ It also challenges notions of 'just desserts' and 'punishment' and gives people the opportunity to consider consequences for all parties and the most productive ways of working with people to repair damage (if possible) support victims and prevent risk of harm, vulnerability and re-offending meeting the needs of individuals and the wider community........ Anyway, that's the sort of thing I use them for - hope this explains! N.
Fox You Forest Posted 21 March 2011 Posted 21 March 2011 I've watched it a couple of times now and no way is that guy pointing out directions, he even has a little look a split second before, he must know they're coming past.
Nick Posted 21 March 2011 Posted 21 March 2011 I've watched it a couple of times now and no way is that guy pointing out directions, he even has a little look a split second before, he must know they're coming past. Yup, looks intentional to me.
MPH Posted 21 March 2011 Posted 21 March 2011 Yeah, that video for instance is on youtube with a variety of titles relating from 'happy slapping' to 'don't mess with gypsies' - the people in it and I suspect the location is from eastern europe going by some of the dialogue and attire, so the titles may be inaccurate and applied for a cultural purpose of 'social justice' to suit a given audience. As the for big lad who snaps, imagine watching the video from a different perspective eg the smaller lad having been the subject of bullying for years or avenging an attack on his sister or being the parent of one of the boys......... it changes the way we feel about things, thus changing the humour of the video and the sense of satisfaction from the perceived 'social justice' the outcome of the text/video brings us. It's all about context. The outcome is that without all the facts and having an impartial and removed position on a situation our judgement is tainted by our own perceptions, emotions, experiences and prejudices - which is why we have an independent body to look at offences and propose appropriate sentences to courts and judge the motives and circumstances and needs of victims and offenders as an impartial and independent body....... hence Youth Offending Teams and the Probation Service. It's the picture in the paper... is the guy stabbing a man in the back or is he pulling out the knife and about to administer first aid............ It also challenges notions of 'just desserts' and 'punishment' and gives people the opportunity to consider consequences for all parties and the most productive ways of working with people to repair damage (if possible) support victims and prevent risk of harm, vulnerability and re-offending meeting the needs of individuals and the wider community........ Anyway, that's the sort of thing I use them for - hope this explains! N. Have you seen the recent interivew with the bigger boy? He claims that he has been bulllied for years and just snapped. Are you saying that from the study you are doing one angle could be that this isnt true at all but simply he got his interview out first more people are likely to believe him ? that kind of thing?
Nick Posted 21 March 2011 Posted 21 March 2011 Have you seen the recent interivew with the bigger boy? He claims that he has been bulllied for years and just snapped. Are you saying that from the study you are doing one angle could be that this isnt true at all but simply he got his interview out first more people are likely to believe him ? that kind of thing? No. The scenario and the example a re non-specific in relation to the teaching. It's simply about watching a vid, making some assumptions and then finding out that maybe the picture isn't all that it seems. eg Would you feel differently about punishing the little white kid if you found out that he had been a victim of domestic violence by his father every day since he was 7 years old and violence was his outlet to deal with the nightly beatings? I know nothing about this particular case I just use them as examples which we as people make assumptions about and sometimes we get it wrong or don't have the full facts.
Zingari Posted 21 March 2011 Posted 21 March 2011 I've watched it a couple of times now and no way is that guy pointing out directions, he even has a little look a split second before, he must know they're coming past. i wasn't really saying that in all likelihood that it was accidental , but merely that given a positive spin on the narrative in his defence it could be possible , and that we shouldn't jump to absolute conclusions based on what we see in a short snapshot in time If I've understood correctly , I think this is what Nick is attempting to do in his lectures and experiments . ( sorry if I've misunderstood you Nick ) Let's say for argument's sake that we find out later that the man who raised his arm striking the woman has defective vision in his left eye and did not see the couple approaching , wouldn't that would put a whole different viewpoint on the assumption that he saw them coming toward him ?
Fox You Forest Posted 21 March 2011 Posted 21 March 2011 i wasn't really saying that in all likelihood that it was accidental , but merely that given a positive spin on the narrative in his defence it could be possible , and that we shouldn't jump to absolute conclusions based on what we see in a short snapshot in time If I've understood correctly , I think this is what Nick is attempting to do in his lectures and experiments . ( sorry if I've misunderstood you Nick ) Let's say for argument's sake that we find out later that the man who raised his arm striking the woman has defective vision in his left eye and did not see the couple approaching , wouldn't that would put a whole different viewpoint on the assumption that he saw them coming toward him ? As you say it's hard to tell just looking at that video but even with defective vision their looks to be far too much force ( unless he has involuntary muscle spasms too) to be pointing something out to his mate, who looks a little tipsy (maybe the camera swaying so much) even before he's taken three swift ones to the chin. In fact watching it again they both seem unsteady on their feet before they even come into the shot. I reckon they're both pissed and bit off more than they could chew.
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