acooling08 Posted 27 October 2011 Posted 27 October 2011 He's had a decent season managing Molde, whoever the hell they are. Thracian normally speaks sense, he's way off with this though.
Daggers Posted 27 October 2011 Posted 27 October 2011 Tony is currently doubled up trying to get his nuts into his mouth with this thread.
FantasticMrFox Posted 27 October 2011 Posted 27 October 2011 I agree with Trhacian. What's wrong with recruiting Man U's reserve team manager? Our players could barely get in that team! Proven winner. Bring it on!..
Thracian Posted 27 October 2011 Author Posted 27 October 2011 Thrac. What actually do you really know about this man as a football manager? I knew enough about Sven as a football manager but even with a golden war chest he failed to impress on a whole stack of counts. And look at the vastly experienced Holloway - what a seat-of-the-pants adventurer he was! OGS won two trophies in his three years managing United Reserves (who would probably have beaten our first team at the time), had further success in Norway and was invited to manage and coach the Norwegian team. He's also been linked with Blackburn and Portsmouth. Of course there's a risk - are you suggesting there's no risk with Mark Hughes (club spirit?). Billy Davies (stability?), Roy Keane (!) , Alan Curbishley (boring), Chris Powell (also inexperienced managerially and as a coach yet currently on 17 votes), Grayson (serial nearly-man), David Jones (hardly looking to the future), Lee Clark (Someone's already suggested he'd need a Director of Football) etc. etc. Managerial appointments are a risk business but we've not had one attack-minded manager in over 10 seasons and where has it got us for all the experience of people like Holloway, Megson and Pearson? It's got us nowhere. OGS in footballing terms is a thoroughbred, a guy who's played, trained, coached and represented his country and the best club in the land and is rightly regarded as a legend. He's done as much in a limited managerial career as could reasonably have been expected and how many of the three last mentioned City managers have been asked to manage a national side? I know we want everything yesterday but however much we've wanted it like spoiled children it hasn't happened. And part of the reason it hasn't happened is that we haven't actually tried. We've held back and allowed ourselves to be strangled by caution. After 10 years of this approach it really is time we tried something different.
Nick Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 I knew enough about Sven as a football manager but even with a golden war chest he failed to impress on a whole stack of counts. And look at the vastly experienced Holloway - what a seat-of-the-pants adventurer he was! OGS won two trophies in his three years managing United Reserves (who would probably have beaten our first team at the time), had further success in Norway and was invited to manage and coach the Norwegian team. He's also been linked with Blackburn and Portsmouth. Of course there's a risk - are you suggesting there's no risk with Mark Hughes (club spirit?). Billy Davies (stability?), Roy Keane (!) , Alan Curbishley (boring), Chris Powell (also inexperienced managerially and as a coach yet currently on 17 votes), Grayson (serial nearly-man), David Jones (hardly looking to the future), Lee Clark (Someone's already suggested he'd need a Director of Football) etc. etc. Managerial appointments are a risk business but we've not had one attack-minded manager in over 10 seasons and where has it got us for all the experience of people like Holloway, Megson and Pearson? It's got us nowhere. OGS in footballing terms is a thoroughbred, a guy who's played, trained, coached and represented his country and the best club in the land and is rightly regarded as a legend. He's done as much in a limited managerial career as could reasonably have been expected and how many of the three last mentioned City managers have been asked to manage a national side? I know we want everything yesterday but however much we've wanted it like spoiled children it hasn't happened. And part of the reason it hasn't happened is that we haven't actually tried. We've held back and allowed ourselves to be strangled by caution. After 10 years of this approach it really is time we tried something different. Sousa, now he was different. You may be right mate, OGS may be the man we seek - but its a gamble and none of us know if it'll pay off, thing is, we should just say that and not perhaps embellish the only reasoning we are sure about and that is that if given the opportunity and the time he might do all right. He's unlikely to get either as he's 'too unproven.'
Thracian Posted 28 October 2011 Author Posted 28 October 2011 Sousa, now he was different. You may be right mate, OGS may be the man we seek - but its a gamble and none of us know if it'll pay off, thing is, we should just say that and not perhaps embellish the only reasoning we are sure about and that is that if given the opportunity and the time he might do all right. He's unlikely to get either as he's 'too unproven.' The irony is that Sousa made worse footballers play better than Sven at times. And that we retained MON after his appalling start but sacked Sousa. Truth is the bloke was set up as a sacrificial lamb not a manager. I think the better comparisons would be Matt Gillies - or Jmmy Bloomfield - albeit we'd be going back more than 10 years. Have we ever had any sustained success with cautious managers?
Uncle Monty Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 My flat mate is a big Molde fan (coming from Norway) so I have seen a few Molde games this year. At my friends admission Molde haven't played beautiful football (Pearson style) and have been very lucky with other teams in the division doing badly. The more I think about it the more I think Brian MCDermott would be a good choice.
Master Fox Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 I agree with Thracian 100%. OGS would be great for the job. When you weigh up the pros on cons of each manager OGS comes out top for me. He will have great access to uniteds youth/reserve team players too. Get him in Top. **** the tired old whores like Davies, Jones and MON.
foxsake123 Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 Yeah sounds as equally as good as an ex-England manager who worked wonders with the u-21's. what an amazing coach is what everyone said. But was he a good manager? Let's not make that mistake again.
Babylon Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 People, Thracians tactic is to choose a manager he knows won't get the job, or choose a player he knows won't feature regularly. He then champions them until the cows come home, knowing very well he can never be proven wrong. It then gives him the high ground to say "ooooh well if you'd done what I said it would all have worked out perfectly".
Babylon Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 The irony is that Sousa made worse footballers play better than Sven at times. And that we retained MON after his appalling start but sacked Sousa. Truth is the bloke was set up as a sacrificial lamb not a manager. I think the better comparisons would be Matt Gillies - or Jmmy Bloomfield - albeit we'd be going back more than 10 years. Have we ever had any sustained success with cautious managers? But Sousa was quite clearly off his rocker, it wasn't just results with him the whole place stank from start to finish.
Ric Flair Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 The irony is that Sousa made worse footballers play better than Sven at times. And that we retained MON after his appalling start but sacked Sousa. Truth is the bloke was set up as a sacrificial lamb not a manager. I think the better comparisons would be Matt Gillies - or Jmmy Bloomfield - albeit we'd be going back more than 10 years. Have we ever had any sustained success with cautious managers? Who on earth are you talking about here? Robbie Neilson because he maraudered forward once and set up a goal and then reverted back to being dogshit? Or DJ Campbell who scored a few in pre-season? Hobbs was shit under Sousa, as was Morrison. Fryatt was appalling, Wellens was atrocious, Berner just as bad. The only player who blossomed under Sousa was King, but then he carried that on under Sven until the latter part of the season. Sousa was a cretin.
Finnegan Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 I agree with Thracian 100%. OGS would be great for the job. When you weigh up the pros on cons of each manager OGS comes out top for me. He will have great access to uniteds youth/reserve team players too. Get him in Top. **** the tired old whores like Davies, Jones and MON. Sorry, Tony, when you've got MF pretending to agree with you, you know it's time to call it a day. I mean the thing is, I'm sure plenty of us would be happy enough with OGS. We could certainly do worse, I imagine. I'd much prefer him to fucking Jones or Keane. But the fact you so adamantly think he's the second coming of Christ because he was a reasonable striker in his playing days is just utterly barmy; and further proof that you really do live on your own little world.
Master Fox Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 Sorry, Tony, when you've got MF pretending to agree with you, you know it's time to call it a day. I mean the thing is, I'm sure plenty of us would be happy enough with OGS. We could certainly do worse, I imagine. I'd much prefer him to fucking Jones or Keane. But the fact you so adamantly think he's the second coming of Christ because he was a reasonable striker in his playing days is just utterly barmy; and further proof that you really do live on your own little world. What is that supposed to mean? And actually I wasn't pretending to agree with him just so you know. I was being genuine because I for once agree with what he says. So you can shove it Finners.
Babylon Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 I was being genuine because You've not been genuine since 1989.
Finnegan Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 I was being genuine for once. Don't go changin', baby.
Master Fox Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 You've not been genuine since 1989. Fine. I see how it is. If nobody wants to take me seriously I’ll take my intelligence, wit, charm and good looks elsewhere. <_<
Master Fox Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 Don't go changin', baby. The damage is done. Just like when MON walked out on us.
Babylon Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 The damage is done. Just like when MON walked out on us.
Master Fox Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 Seriously though, back to the subject. Think about it..... Thracian is right whether you like it or not.
Petchy Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 Hmm.. has Ole agreed to buy Alan Sheehan if you promote him on here?
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 Seriously though, back to the subject. Think about it..... Thracian is right whether you like it or not. Is he bollox!!!
Houdini Logic Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 Never played, managed or probably even knows this league exists Never had a real transfer budget to deal with (and we've seen what happens with people who don't know what they're doing) Who/what is his scouting set up like anyway? And that's before we even go in to training, tactics, dealing with players, pressure and psychology... Another player turned manager who has a lot of potential (similar to Sousa), let him find his feet in the lower regions of football or foreign leagues and maybe in 5/10 years time we can talk...
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