Heskey2011 Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 Never played, managed or probably even knows this league exists Never had a real transfer budget to deal with (and we've seen what happens with people who don't know what they're doing) Who/what is his scouting set up like anyway? And that's before we even go in to training, tactics, dealing with players, pressure and psychology... Another player turned manager who has a lot of potential (similar to Sousa), let him find his feet in the lower regions of football or foreign leagues and maybe in 5/10 years time we can talk... WORD
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 Yes. Sorry? Yes he's right or yes thracs talking bollox?
Far Post Gerry Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 Thracian gets a lot of shit on this forum, but people should actually listen to what he's proscribing. Attacking football, youth development, and the mindset of not being afraid to lose. Who would disagree with that? Listen to the man; he talks sense!
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 Thracian gets a lot of shit on this forum, but people should actually listen to what he's proscribing. Attacking football, youth development, and the mindset of not being afraid to lose. Who would disagree with that? Listen to the man; he talks sense! Right... Ta
Thracian Posted 28 October 2011 Author Posted 28 October 2011 Sorry, Tony, when you've got MF pretending to agree with you, you know it's time to call it a day. I mean the thing is, I'm sure plenty of us would be happy enough with OGS. We could certainly do worse, I imagine. I'd much prefer him to fucking Jones or Keane. But the fact you so adamantly think he's the second coming of Christ because he was a reasonable striker in his playing days is just utterly barmy; and further proof that you really do live on your own little world. Haha - I see you leave in just enough slack to cover your arse if OGS does come here and do the job we've been waiting for these last 10 years or more. But he really wouldn't have to be anything approaching godly to top the list of potential managers I've read. We're all seemingly happy if MON arrives but after that, OGS looks way out in front to me.
Nick Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 Haha - I see you leave in just enough slack to cover your arse if OGS does come here and do the job we've been waiting for these last 10 years or more. But he really wouldn't have to be anything approaching godly to top the list of potential managers I've read. We're all seemingly happy if MON arrives but after that, OGS looks way out in front to me. I think OGS and Clark are a similar gamble, we are just going to have to roll the dice with somebody but the amount riding on it is huge for these Thais considering the budget already expended and the incoming rules.
Guest Bilo Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 Christ Top, when we're looking at mediocrity like Dougie Freedman you obviously don't know how to get in touch with Norway. The number of Molde FK is as follows: 00 47 712 02 500. You shouldn't need to speak Norwegian, Norwegians generally have a good command of English. If you do, here's the phrase you need. Kan jeg tale til din sjef ? Thank you and good night.
Thracian Posted 28 October 2011 Author Posted 28 October 2011 Never played, managed or probably even knows this league exists Never had a real transfer budget to deal with (and we've seen what happens with people who don't know what they're doing) Who/what is his scouting set up like anyway? And that's before we even go in to training, tactics, dealing with players, pressure and psychology... Another player turned manager who has a lot of potential (similar to Sousa), let him find his feet in the lower regions of football or foreign leagues and maybe in 5/10 years time we can talk... I earn my living making deals and have survived 25 years doing so. When an opportunity arises I don't get 5/10 years to make up my mind or even a few days or weeks to check it out like the roadshow "experts". I get a few minutes. My business is not just about knowledge - it's about nerve. And in risk terms I'd say OGS is way down the scale and in the time scale you mention I doubt if he'd be available if he's any good. Now is the time to get the bloke and show some faith in him. a) I am quite sure OGS has a telly and is completely familiar with Championship football. If you were an aspiring manager you would watch such games at every opportunity and make notes. b) Are you suggesting the guy is MD or something? Cos I've not noticed any signs of it. Consdiering the wages he was on and the various add-on endorsements, I'm quiate sure he'd handle a purchasing budget. c) I'm not sure OGS's contacts would need to be so brilliant to eclipse the scouting set-up remaining now Sven's left. Because some of the shit that's washed up has been pathetic beyond belief. Any considering how far and wide OGS's playing career has taken him I'm quite sure he can get a reliable opinion on most anyone. d) Seeing as Manchester United have been at the top of English football so long I can't imagine the sort of coaching/training/preparation OGS has been familiar with would be anything less than outstanding. Which would put it way ahead of Leicester's from the impression I got on matchdays.
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 I earn my living making deals and have survived 25 years doing so. When an opportunity arises I don't get 5/10 years to make up my mind or even a few days or weeks to check it out like the roadshow "experts". I get a few minutes. My business is not just about knowledge - it's about nerve. And in risk terms I'd say OGS is way down the scale and in the time scale you mention I doubt if he'd be available if he's any good. Now is the time to get the bloke and show some faith in him. a) I am quite sure OGS has a telly and is completely familiar with Championship football. If you were an aspiring manager you would watch such games at every opportunity and make notes. b) Are you suggesting the guy is MD or something? Cos I've not noticed any signs of it. Consdiering the wages he was on and the various add-on endorsements, I'm quiate sure he'd handle a purchasing budget. c) I'm not sure OGS's contacts would need to be so brilliant to eclipse the scouting set-up remaining now Sven's left. Because some of the shit that's washed up has been pathetic beyond belief. Any considering how far and wide OGS's playing career has taken him I'm quite sure he can get a reliable opinion on most anyone. d) Seeing as Manchester United have been at the top of English football so long I can't imagine the sort of coaching/training/preparation OGS has been familiar with would be anything less than outstanding. Which would put it way ahead of Leicester's from the impression I got on matchdays. Employing Solskjaer would surely be a risk.. Yes he's worked with Fergie for years but not in a management capacity.. Why take a risk on somebody young and managerially inexperienced when we don't have to take that risk.. It could be that OGS becomes the next Fergie.. It could also be that he quickly fooks everything up and we are back to square one.. Same with Clark IMO I'd rather not take that risk at this point in time when we simply don't have to I'd rather go with someone who is proven at this level Hughes would be my bet. I wonder sometimes whether this thread is more about 'Thracian' than about the issue at hand? An accusation that's been levelled at my good self on more than one occasion..... For me this next appointment is a crucial one.. I'd rather have a proven manager at this time than a non-proven one
Skullfisher Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 Didn't Ole turn around a relegation team to one of the favourites to win the league? Thats right. He turned out crappy Molde to a winning team.... I live in Norway and follow the league. OGS is the MAN for us.....
Houdini Logic Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 I earn my living making deals and have survived 25 years doing so. When an opportunity arises I don't get 5/10 years to make up my mind or even a few days or weeks to check it out like the roadshow "experts". I get a few minutes. My business is not just about knowledge - it's about nerve. And in risk terms I'd say OGS is way down the scale and in the time scale you mention I doubt if he'd be available if he's any good. Now is the time to get the bloke and show some faith in him. a) I am quite sure OGS has a telly and is completely familiar with Championship football. If you were an aspiring manager you would watch such games at every opportunity and make notes. b) Are you suggesting the guy is MD or something? Cos I've not noticed any signs of it. Consdiering the wages he was on and the various add-on endorsements, I'm quiate sure he'd handle a purchasing budget. c) I'm not sure OGS's contacts would need to be so brilliant to eclipse the scouting set-up remaining now Sven's left. Because some of the shit that's washed up has been pathetic beyond belief. Any considering how far and wide OGS's playing career has taken him I'm quite sure he can get a reliable opinion on most anyone. d) Seeing as Manchester United have been at the top of English football so long I can't imagine the sort of coaching/training/preparation OGS has been familiar with would be anything less than outstanding. Which would put it way ahead of Leicester's from the impression I got on matchdays. So your arguments are as follows - a) He has a tele b) He played for Man Utd c) He played for Man Utd d) He played for Man Utd I'm convinced - get him in
Skullfisher Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 Christ Top, when we're looking at mediocrity like Dougie Freedman you obviously don't know how to get in touch with Norway. The number of Molde FK is as follows: 00 47 712 02 500. You shouldn't need to speak Norwegian, Norwegians generally have a good command of English. If you do, here's the phrase you need. Kan jeg tale til din sjef ? Thank you and good night. Oi, as a norwegian I would say that sentence didnt sound to good.... You better say: "God dag, kan jeg være så vennlig å få snakke med sjefen din?" Good luck
Guest Bilo Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 Oi, as a norwegian I would say that sentence didnt sound to good.... You better say: "God dag, kan jeg være så vennlig å få snakke med sjefen din?" Good luck Ha ha, Scandinavian languages never were my strong point. One girl from Helsinki told me my Finnish was terrible. Nothing wrong with my foreplay though. B)
Finnegan Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 THIS JUST IN: OWNING A MARKET STALL = RUNNING A FOOTBALL CLUB.
Ric Flair Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 Thracian has convinced me after the Halloween ghouls Dowie, Strachan, Keane & Clark have scared the shit out of me.
Jon the Hat Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 This is looking like a better idea by the minute..
psychonaut Posted 28 October 2011 Posted 28 October 2011 I agree with Thracian... Solskjaer is easily my 2nd choice (behind O'neil) and has been since the day Sven was axed. I will not list all the reasons why as Thracian and our Norwegian fan have already done this suffice to say I have followed Solskjaer quite closely throughout his career (being a fan ever since he scored the winner in 99) and the guy is a born winner. It hasn't suprised me in the slightest seeing him start to transfer this over to management. As for the risk............................. he who dares wins. I watch football for the excitement.
Daggers Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 Page 2? Surely not! How could this thread ever be allowed to die?
STUHILL Posted 30 October 2011 Posted 30 October 2011 OGS!?!! Crazy suggestion! The guy has JUST started his career and people are making out like he will be the next Ferguson?? On what evidence?! 1) He played for Man U? Well we have seen how indifferent ex Man U players have been making the transition to management! 2) He did well with their reserves? Hardly difficult with the reserve team you get at Man U!!! 3) He has had one good season in the Norweigen league?? FFS This just all seems to be a wet dream Thracian had that OGS will be the next big thing, which as he said, is based on those 3 points! All this born winner crap and talking like he knows the guy personally after watching him on TV for few years is ludacris. I'm afraid although this idea is very romantic and all, i.e we give him a chance and he is an instant success etc, it is still completely unrealistic at this time and rightly so. Good luck to OGS in the Norweigen league and his career but there is a long list infront of him for this job and with good reason. He has proved nothing of note so far and needs to earn a chance at a club like Leicester.
Thracian Posted 30 October 2011 Author Posted 30 October 2011 THIS JUST IN: OWNING A MARKET STALL = RUNNING A FOOTBALL CLUB. Mock my opinion all you like but at least I've been player, coach and manager at a professional football club. How about you? And there have been plenty of footballers who worked a market stall. Including Gary Lineker.
Guest Basildon Fox Posted 30 October 2011 Posted 30 October 2011 Mock my opinion all you like but at least I've been player, coach and manager at a professional football club. How about you? And there have been plenty of footballers who worked a market stall. Including Gary Lineker. Who did you manage?
Thracian Posted 30 October 2011 Author Posted 30 October 2011 OGS!?!! Crazy suggestion! The guy has JUST started his career and people are making out like he will be the next Ferguson?? On what evidence?! 1) He played for Man U? Well we have seen how indifferent ex Man U players have been making the transition to management! 2) He did well with their reserves? Hardly difficult with the reserve team you get at Man U!!! 3) He has had one good season in the Norweigen league?? FFS This just all seems to be a wet dream Thracian had that OGS will be the next big thing, which as he said, is based on those 3 points! All this born winner crap and talking like he knows the guy personally after watching him on TV for few years is ludacris. I'm afraid although this idea is very romantic and all, i.e we give him a chance and he is an instant success etc, it is still completely unrealistic at this time and rightly so. Good luck to OGS in the Norweigen league and his career but there is a long list infront of him for this job and with good reason. He has proved nothing of note so far and needs to earn a chance at a club like Leicester. Plenty of words but not one single reason why the suggestion is "crazy". Cos when I look at some of the candidates being mentioned I don't think it's "crazy" at all. In fact I think he's at exactly the right stage of his management career to have up-to-date ideas, stacks of enhusasm and a willingness to learn fast...and that's quite apart from things like his reputation, experience of top level football and his contacts.
STUHILL Posted 30 October 2011 Posted 30 October 2011 Mock my opinion all you like but at least I've been player, coach and manager at a professional football club. How about you? And there have been plenty of footballers who worked a market stall. Including Gary Lineker. How did that work out for you out of interest?? Not doing it now so I guess not too well
STUHILL Posted 30 October 2011 Posted 30 October 2011 Plenty of words but not one single reason why the suggestion is "crazy". Cos when I look at some of the candidates being mentioned I don't think it's "crazy" at all. In fact I think he's at exactly the right stage of his management career to have up-to-date ideas, stacks of enhusasm and a willingness to learn fast...and that's quite apart from things like his reputation, experience of top level football and his contacts. So you have just described ANY young manager starting out there with "up-to-date" ideas, willingness to learn fast" Reputation as a football PLAYER does not often translate to Management. In fact, I would say it is rare!! Experience of top level football, again, is a trait a lot of Managers have these days and doesn't seem to have a baring on their success. Yet again, your post is full of general statements that fail to give any real evidence why OGS should be given a chance anymore than any other YOUNG manager. I see your obsession with YOUTH in the playing squad has also clouded your judgement on chosing a realistic manager. We will agree to disagree as I don't want to get in one of your long winded essay show-downs again. Mark Hughes is my No.1 choice by the way as he potentially offers much more than any other candidate we have been linked with so far.
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