L1 today

[acooling08]

It was again painfully quiet at times, especially considering the high attendance.

[LCFC_FAN_1995]

Can't just blame L1 today, the whole ground were poor, people in front of me today in SK1 were moaning because me and 2 more people kept chanting throughout the game and showing our emotions on how we felt but all they wanted was peace and quiet.

Guy I was with just told them they were at a football game and if they didn't like it then move somewhere else

Poor atmosphere as per usual

[acooling08]

Tbf I think it might have something to do with the cold. I sat there shivering for most of the game, I was in no mood for moving my mouth from behind my scarf.

[Kitchandro]

Still don't think we were outsung at all. I could barely hear them until they scored, I thought we were quite loud in general. Seemed to be more standing up than usual.

[Kitchandro]

Don't think having a pop at fellow fans helps to be honest, especially considering the fans in L1 are, for the minute, the best we have (and no, I don't sit there myself).

Although I appreciate what Jobber is trying to do, I really do think the atmosphere in the ground would be better off without him in the long term. Over the past few seasons, the chanting in that area has become very co-ordinated - and so obviously without him, it's to be expected that things might be a bit flat in the short-term as the song-generation method changes.

But I really do think it's time to get rid. His presence is very counter-productive when there's a large away following - who both take the piss and use the rhythm he creates to start their own chants. And, of course, because the singers in L1/K1 only number 900 or so at most, they are inevitably outsung. If you think it's bad now against sides like Peterborough or Barnsley, just imagine what it would be like if we ever do get promoted and have Man Utd, Spurs or Chelsea fans in that corner. The piss-taking would just be unreal.

Added to that, there's the question of originality. For me, the best thing about English club support is how spontaneous and witty some of the chants can be. I know on the continent (where things are often more orchestrated, often with drummers, people with microphones, etc.) the atmosphere may be consistently louder, but they do lack this element of the unpredictable. L1 still generate original chants, but more and more the whole process of 'atmosphere' has become more and more predictable in recent seasons. The 'bang, bang,,,,Leicester' after EVERY corner. The 'der der der' bounce thing after EVERY goal. More and more, it just feels like everyone's just going through the motions.

I think Jobber should move to the Kop. After all, it's supposed to be the Kop, and it couldn't really get much worse for atmosphere. That'd probably do the folks in there a bit of good and the pisstaking of him would be more difficult when he's over the other side of the ground. You're right, The East Stand doesn't need him. Not that I don't like the bloke, because I do, he's a passionate fan and has good intentions.

I'd say there's a few more than 900 in there BTW.

[1964FOX]

There is no point in having a go at a section of the ground for being quiet as the whole ground was particularly poor yesterday. It does prove Jobber makes a difference so perhaps people should not have a go at him as they do but as much as I love him I agree we should not rely on one person for atmosphere, it has to be a collective effort.

SK1 was particularly quiet yesterday and I had two young lads stood behind me who had never seen before. Within 5 minutes they said it's crap up here and they wanted to move, I tried my best to get things going but was clearly singing on my own so told them where to move to get a little ore atmosphere. They asked me why I was in such a quiet area and I have to say it did make me consider why I am, a move might be on the cards. I may try L1 for Pompey as my lad would like to give it a try.

[1964FOX]

I think Jobber should move to the Kop. After all, it's supposed to be the Kop, and it couldn't really get much worse for atmosphere. That'd probably do the folks in there a bit of good and the pisstaking of him would be more difficult when he's over the other side of the ground. You're right, The East Stand doesn't need him. Not that I don't like the bloke, because I do, he's a passionate fan and has good intentions.

I'd say there's a few more than 900 in there BTW.

I think this is a great idea, would allow L1 to become mor spontaneous and probably get the Kop going, as they do sing but need a bit of encouragement.

[jonthefox]

I think Jobber should move to the Kop. After all, it's supposed to be the Kop, and it couldn't really get much worse for atmosphere. That'd probably do the folks in there a bit of good and the pisstaking of him would be more difficult when he's over the other side of the ground. You're right, The East Stand doesn't need him. Not that I don't like the bloke, because I do, he's a passionate fan and has good intentions.

I'd say there's a few more than 900 in there BTW.

[LTWD]

I was in L1 and thought the support was rubbish i spotted 2 to 3 lads trying to get songs going but no one wanted to back em, jobber was missed, its time we all found our voices on match day

[Finnegan]

MY PART OF THA GROUND WAS LOUDER THAN UR PART OF THA GROUND

[jonthefox]

I really dont see the need for L1. Being close to opposition fans for goading purposes just seems immature to me.

Take a look at some grounds around the country and you'll see that creating a noise is far more important than getting up close to travelling fans.

[The Year Of The Fox]

It's nothing to do with goading the away fans. It's just where the atmosphere is. We dont need jobber however bad (or not) the atmsphere was. Yes it will be a bit quieter for a few games (you can't make an omlette..) til the fans robotised by the drum snap out of their trance and start singing on their own accord.

It'd be good if jobber went to the kop for a few games

[Finnegan]

If it was nothing to do with goading the away fans then all of our singing support would be in the Kop.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, part of what made the Kop in Filbo a tidy was atmosphere was the proximity to the away support. You need it really, I think.

Just a shame the club stuck 'em at the other end of the ground, no doubt to the delight of the police. Now we're stuck with two singing sections, neither of which are really loud enough on their own to do our attendances justice. I've almost given up pointing this out, really. Not like talking about it on a forum's going to make any ****ing difference.

[Marmite]

Well since the ground opened I have sat in the Kop and moved to L1 for yesterdays game to see if we liked it and it was loads better than the Kop and that was without Jobber so looking forward to when he returns.

Went down to the ticket office today and swapped our season tickets over there on a permanent basis

The Kop is awful and creates no atmosphere, me and my mates have tried to get the crowd going loads of times but just get dodgy looks off people when you stand up and sing.

[jonthefox]

It's nothing to do with goading the away fans. It's just where the atmosphere is. We dont need jobber however bad (or not) the atmsphere was. Yes it will be a bit quieter for a few games (you can't make an omlette..) til the fans robotised by the drum snap out of their trance and start singing on their own accord.

It'd be good if jobber went to the kop for a few games

Is it?.

[Kitchandro]

Is it?.

Yes it is. I can't believe some people still aren't getting the message.

Don't sit in the Kop, West Stand or Family Stand and then complain about the atmosphere.

[Finnegan]

Yes it is. I can't believe some people still aren't getting the message.

Don't sit in the Kop, West Stand or Family Stand and then complain about the atmosphere.

I dunno. My memories of Filbert Street are clearly rose-tinted but you could sit anywhere in the double decker or the bike shed and get a tidy atmosphere and people even sang in the Carling Stand if I remember rightly.

I think you can sit anywhere in the ground and be disappointed by how quiet our support is now. You don't need to be sat amongst the singing to appreciate the atmosphere in the ground. I sit with my dad and a mate of his from work, as a twenty five year old who's long since flown the nest it's about the only thing I do with the old boy now so I sit where he sits and I'm clearly not going to stand for most of the game singing my heart out on my own in C2.

I can barely hear L1 from where I am. Which isn't me "slagging" it off or taking a pop at those over there singing it's just that the sound of one block singing sporadically isn't exactly going to reverberate around the ground. Were all of those people to come back to the Kop, however, and unify our vocal support? Not only do I think it'd make a hell of a louder wall of noise but it'd also start encouraging some of the less-frequent singers to get up and participate.

Won't happen, mind.

[Kitchandro]

I dunno. My memories of Filbert Street are clearly rose-tinted but you could sit anywhere in the double decker or the bike shed and get a tidy atmosphere and people even sang in the Carling Stand if I remember rightly.

I think you can sit anywhere in the ground and be disappointed by how quiet our support is now. You don't need to be sat amongst the singing to appreciate the atmosphere in the ground. I sit with my dad and a mate of his from work, as a twenty five year old who's long since flown the nest it's about the only thing I do with the old boy now so I sit where he sits and I'm clearly not going to stand for most of the game singing my heart out on my own in C2.

I can barely hear L1 from where I am. Which isn't me "slagging" it off or taking a pop at those over there singing it's just that the sound of one block singing sporadically isn't exactly going to reverberate around the ground. Were all of those people to come back to the Kop, however, and unify our vocal support? Not only do I think it'd make a hell of a louder wall of noise but it'd also start encouraging some of the less-frequent singers to get up and participate.

Won't happen, mind.

No you won't hear us very well, the acoustics are poor. I sat in the Kop for a game last season and when they scored you couldn't really hear the away fans either, despiet the fact they were obviously going crazy. It sounds pretty loud when you are next to it though.

I don't buy into this Filbert Street thing - in the 80s maybe but in the late 90s I don't remember being struck by the atmosphere, there was certainly sitting down in the whole of the top tier of the double decker.

I'm not making out L/K/J are great atmosphere's compared to the old days but compared to other grounds in the Championship it's better than most.

Obviously it would be better if the small amount from the Kop moved, which is why I'm saying I don't get why people sit in there and complain.

[leicesterseddon]

I dunno. My memories of Filbert Street are clearly rose-tinted but you could sit anywhere in the double decker or the bike shed and get a tidy atmosphere and people even sang in the Carling Stand if I remember rightly.

I think you can sit anywhere in the ground and be disappointed by how quiet our support is now. You don't need to be sat amongst the singing to appreciate the atmosphere in the ground. I sit with my dad and a mate of his from work, as a twenty five year old who's long since flown the nest it's about the only thing I do with the old boy now so I sit where he sits and I'm clearly not going to stand for most of the game singing my heart out on my own in C2.

I can barely hear L1 from where I am. Which isn't me "slagging" it off or taking a pop at those over there singing it's just that the sound of one block singing sporadically isn't exactly going to reverberate around the ground. Were all of those people to come back to the Kop, however, and unify our vocal support? Not only do I think it'd make a hell of a louder wall of noise but it'd also start encouraging some of the less-frequent singers to get up and participate.

Won't happen, mind.

Yeah, but you seem to be forgetting...L1 was never the 'singing section' of the ground when it first opened. In our first few seasons, it was just like the rest of the East Stand, with no one standing/singing, etc.

When the ground first opened, I'd wager most of the people who are currently in L1 did actually have season tickets in the Kop. So our singers were 'united' to begin with, and it still wasn't good enough to prevent some of them leaving, because they thought they could do a better job on their own.

As others have said, this all comes down to the crucial issue of standing. I don't think the L1 migration happened because the people who moved didn't like the Kop (or, at least, that wasn't the main issue)...it's because they wanted to be guaranteed they would be able to stand freely every match without any hassle.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Yeah, but you seem to be forgetting...L1 was never the 'singing section' of the ground when it first opened. In our first few seasons, it was just like the rest of the East Stand, with no one standing/singing, etc.

When the ground first opened, I'd wager most of the people who are currently in L1 did actually have season tickets in the Kop. So our singers were 'united' to begin with, and it still wasn't good enough to prevent some of them leaving, because they thought they could do a better job on their own.

As others have said, this all comes down to the crucial issue of standing. I don't think the L1 migration happened because the people who moved didn't like the Kop (or, at least, that wasn't the main issue)...it's because they wanted to be guaranteed they would be able to stand freely every match without any hassle.

Definitely the case for me. Id give my ST back if I couldn't stand

[The Year Of The Fox]

Is it?.

Yes. The atmosphere thete is better than anywhere else in our ground.

I've a mate in the kop who sits towards the front and he can year l block during most games. Can't say the same the other way around unfortunately.

Completely agree with kitchandro, don't moan if you're not in there doing your own bit.

[The Year Of The Fox]

If it was nothing to do with goading the away fans then all of our singing support would be in the Kop.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, part of what made the Kop in Filbo a tidy was atmosphere was the proximity to the away support. You need it really, I think.

Just a shame the club stuck 'em at the other end of the ground, no doubt to the delight of the police. Now we're stuck with two singing sections, neither of which are really loud enough on their own to do our attendances justice. I've almost given up pointing this out, really. Not like talking about it on a forum's going to make any ****ing difference.

Not really, standing is more widely acceptable in l block than in the kop. The view is better too.

Don't get me wrong, there are a few who goad them thinking they're on green street, but not that many at all.

[philce]

Yes, had a ST in SK2 at Filbo, then moved to the Kop at KP, but the funny looks and comments from some of the other "supporters" made us move to L1.

The problem with the Kop is that the double decker crew took it on and now just sit there eating their sandwiches and drinking from their flasks.

This has been covered and discussed so many times, nothing is going to change.

Yeah, but you seem to be forgetting...L1 was never the 'singing section' of the ground when it first opened. In our first few seasons, it was just like the rest of the East Stand, with no one standing/singing, etc.

When the ground first opened, I'd wager most of the people who are currently in L1 did actually have season tickets in the Kop. So our singers were 'united' to begin with, and it still wasn't good enough to prevent some of them leaving, because they thought they could do a better job on their own.

As others have said, this all comes down to the crucial issue of standing. I don't think the L1 migration happened because the people who moved didn't like the Kop (or, at least, that wasn't the main issue)...it's because they wanted to be guaranteed they would be able to stand freely every match without any hassle.

[Finnegan]

No you won't hear us very well, the acoustics are poor. I sat in the Kop for a game last season and when they scored you couldn't really hear the away fans either, despiet the fact they were obviously going crazy. It sounds pretty loud when you are next to it though.

I don't buy into this Filbert Street thing - in the 80s maybe but in the late 90s I don't remember being struck by the atmosphere, there was certainly sitting down in the whole of the top tier of the double decker.

I'm not making out L/K/J are great atmosphere's compared to the old days but compared to other grounds in the Championship it's better than most.

Obviously it would be better if the small amount from the Kop moved, which is why I'm saying I don't get why people sit in there and complain.

Oh give over perpetuating the acoustics myth would you? Plenty of other clubs manage to make an atmosphere in stadiums like ours. Hell, West Brom and Leeds have managed to come and make a good atmosphere IN ours - as have numerous others. Granted little clubs like Blackpool and Plymouth can come here and you can't hear their away support but for the most part, from where I sit, I hear them more than anywhere else in the ground unless the Kop are particularly fired up.

The bottom line is not many people in our stadium sing and those that do are split in two, at opposite ends of the ground. That's it, that's all there is, there's nothing else to the argument.

[Leicester_Loyal]

Well since the ground opened I have sat in the Kop and moved to L1 for yesterdays game to see if we liked it and it was loads better than the Kop and that was without Jobber so looking forward to when he returns.

Went down to the ticket office today and swapped our season tickets over there on a permanent basis

The Kop is awful and creates no atmosphere, me and my mates have tried to get the crowd going loads of times but just get dodgy looks off people when you stand up and sing.

Where abouts do you sit in L1 mate?