paddy Agyemang Posted 31 December 2011 Posted 31 December 2011 Put him in midfield instead of wellens
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 31 December 2011 Posted 31 December 2011 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....... there are 8 or 9 other players that you need to be looking at before Bamba. It irks me how he's become the recent scapegoat just because he's a bit different or outlandish at times. He's not a midfielder. He's good. He's been one of our few quality performers this season.
Haydos Posted 31 December 2011 Posted 31 December 2011 Awful awful centre back and the underlying reason for our shoddy defensive performances. Are you wumming in every post?
spez78 Posted 31 December 2011 Author Posted 31 December 2011 I agree I would be happy to put bamba in midfield, I would play him with king but only if we had 2 new wingers who could create chances I do feel that nugent and beckford would score the goals needed if they had any service which unfortunately they haven't had in my opinion
MikeyT Posted 31 December 2011 Posted 31 December 2011 He is good, but he gives me mini heart attacks a hell of a lot.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 31 December 2011 Posted 31 December 2011 Good or bad, on or off, black or white (dammit, I'll set acoooling08 off now.)
Finnegan Posted 31 December 2011 Posted 31 December 2011 Are you wumming in every post? No, I think he just IS that stupid.
martyn Posted 31 December 2011 Posted 31 December 2011 Wrong. No, it's not wrong, it's an opinion I hold. I may hold yours with some credence if you didn't go into abuse mode with others who don't agree with you. Mills was turned so easily by their big lumps 1st half it was embarrassing and aside from a couple of well executed cross field balls, his distribution and touch was as assured as always. Thing is, Bamba and mills are chalk and cheese. Mills is body on the line which the passion brigade love, whereas Bamba is exponentially a better footballer but more prone to costly gaffes with his style. Hence they will polarise fans.
spez78 Posted 31 December 2011 Author Posted 31 December 2011 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....... there are 8 or 9 other players that you need to be looking at before Bamba. It irks me how he's become the recent scapegoat just because he's a bit different or outlandish at times. He's not a midfielder. He's good. He's been one of our few quality performers this season.
sharpie Posted 31 December 2011 Posted 31 December 2011 10 times better than mills who always seems to blame bamba when we concede, they obviously dont get on, best center back we have
spez78 Posted 31 December 2011 Author Posted 31 December 2011 Freeman's wharfer.... Do u honestly believe he's been one of our quality performers this season? I think when he does the simple things that a defender needs to do, he's ok but his concentration is poor and I'm not saying that mills has been good since he joined but I would prefer a brave no nonsense centre back to a ball playing one.
cc_star Posted 31 December 2011 Posted 31 December 2011 Awful awful centre back and the underlying reason for our shoddy defensive performances. Thing is, no matter how good he can be as an individual, he will never, ever be part of a successful defensive paring... Can anyone point to a team which has a chance of going up but has a CB whose partner can't tell where he's going to be standing from one minute to the next. We need partnerships at the back, partnerships in CM & partnerships up front, this season's problem stem from us not able to form partnerships anywhere. Bamba is the reason we can't form a partnership at the back, no matter how good he is or isn't as an individual is irrelevant to that fact.
Kitchandro Posted 31 December 2011 Posted 31 December 2011 Thing is, no matter how good he can be as an individual, he will never, ever be part of a successful defensive paring... Can anyone point to a team which has a chance of going up but has a CB whose partner can't tell where he's going to be standing from one minute to the next. We need partnerships at the back, partnerships in CM & partnerships up front, this season's problem stem from us not able to form partnerships anywhere. Bamba is the reason we can't form a partnership at the back, no matter how good he is or isn't as an individual is irrelevant to that fact. That argument might hold water if the other centre backs were any good.
FoxInWales Posted 31 December 2011 Posted 31 December 2011 Put him in midfield instead of wellens This
LCFC BEAST Posted 31 December 2011 Posted 31 December 2011 We all know Mills can't pass the ball but that's not his fvcking job! No one in the midfield moves for him and if no one does then you play it down the channels which he does. Mills does the best defending for Leicester I've seen for a while. How many times he's stopped goalscoring opportunities is beyond me. He know's he's not £5 million but he can't help that can he. So how about people stop slating him for his passing and praise him for his defending and everything else. As for Bamba he's a liability, there's no doubt about it. He gives you mini heart-attacks where at times you just want him to hoof it but that's so one we need. He takes risks and brings the ball out the defence and spurs on the team (for a while). He lifts the crowd and can get the team going. He needs to sort his decision making out and focus on the team play, not just himself.
cc_star Posted 31 December 2011 Posted 31 December 2011 That argument might hold water if the other centre backs were any good. We know they're good, they have been for other teams Mills + SSL might have worked, as might Mills + Tunch, or Tunch + SSL One thing we do know is that Bamba + anyone never will - because a successful partnership outweighs individual ability Bamba is a great player IMO, but an individual, there is no room for individuals at CB
Father Ted Posted 31 December 2011 Posted 31 December 2011 No, I think he just IS that stupid. Or maybe you are deluded? He has cost us 4 points in our last 2 games. He has no positional sense. He continually loses headers in the air or lets the ball bounce. He struggles against big strikers (holt, bothroyd, long, Henderson have all made him look shit). He gives away so many stupid free kicks. People love him because he does a cruyff turn in his own box and then runs 50 metres up the pitch to attack - im sorry but that is not his job, he is a DEFENDER.
Father Ted Posted 31 December 2011 Posted 31 December 2011 Thing is, no matter how good he can be as an individual, he will never, ever be part of a successful defensive paring... Can anyone point to a team which has a chance of going up but has a CB whose partner can't tell where he's going to be standing from one minute to the next. We need partnerships at the back, partnerships in CM & partnerships up front, this season's problem stem from us not able to form partnerships anywhere. Bamba is the reason we can't form a partnership at the back, no matter how good he is or isn't as an individual is irrelevant to that fact. Spot on.
Kitchandro Posted 31 December 2011 Posted 31 December 2011 We know they're good, they have been for other teams Mills + SSL might have worked, as might Mills + Tunch, or Tunch + SSL One thing we do know is that Bamba + anyone never will - because a successful partnership outweighs individual ability Bamba is a great player IMO, but an individual, there is no room for individuals at CB As I said the other day, we overrated Mills for Reading, the people who watched him week in week out said he was average, and all the criticisms of him have come true. He struggles against pace, his distribution is terrible, he loses his cool and costs his team because of it, mouths off too much and has digs at the fans. St Ledger's never been any good, Preston were poor at the back and so was he. And he's always had a bad attitude it seems. Tunchev is worth a go in fairness, but not with one of those 2.
BahsonGav Posted 31 December 2011 Posted 31 December 2011 No Issues with Sol - he is exactly what is needed in this league, won all his headers today & dominated his forward. Our problams lie forward of the back 4!
MikeyT Posted 31 December 2011 Posted 31 December 2011 We all know Mills can't pass the ball but that's not his fvcking job! No one in the midfield moves for him and if no one does then you play it down the channels which he does. Mills does the best defending for Leicester I've seen for a while. How many times he's stopped goalscoring opportunities is beyond me. He know's he's not £5 million but he can't help that can he. So how about people stop slating him for his passing and praise him for his defending and everything else. As for Bamba he's a liability, there's no doubt about it. He gives you mini heart-attacks where at times you just want him to hoof it but that's so one we need. He takes risks and brings the ball out the defence and spurs on the team (for a while). He lifts the crowd and can get the team going. He needs to sort his decision making out and focus on the team play, not just himself. Stop nicking my saying.
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 31 December 2011 Posted 31 December 2011 Freeman's wharfer.... Do u honestly believe he's been one of our quality performers this season? I think when he does the simple things that a defender needs to do, he's ok but his concentration is poor and I'm not saying that mills has been good since he joined but I would prefer a brave no nonsense centre back to a ball playing one. Wholeheartedly. Recently he's been okay but that counts for a lot the way we're playing at the minute, before that he was absolutely top notch. The guy frequently astounds me the way he wins balls that are 50/50 at best, and his quality on the ball is to be admired. I'm happy for him to be at fault for the odd goal now and then in exchange for the amount of times he keeps possession. How many goals have St Ledger and Mills been individually culpable for this year? More than Bamba yet they do half the things Bamba can. No nonsense, 'solid', yet still responsible for as many, if not more, goals conceded this season than Bamba. Yet people are pointing fingers at Bamba! I don't know why people are singling out Bamba at the moment, there is no great defensive crisis and defence is not our problem. I think it's just because he's a little different and eccentric. People are trying to find fault with something that stands out to try and justify our overall performances as a team, well for me they're looking in the wrong direction. At the minute we have averaged conceding a goal a game for the last eight. One goal, per game. You can't expect to be keeping a clean sheet every game so if you keep it to one goal you've done okay. Don't forget the run of clean sheets we had at the start of the season as well. That's right, with Sol in the defence. Pearson clearly rates Bamba and the commentator said today that he had told Bamba to keep playing his natural game. Pearson won't drop him, he can clearly see he's our best centre half, hence the Mills or St Ledger decisions having to be made. Sven could see the same. And they both knew he wasn't a central midfielder. I don't see why discussions such as 'Is Bamba a midfielder/Is Bamba good or bad' are achieving so much activity on here, for me, nothing about Bamba needs to change for now.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 31 December 2011 Posted 31 December 2011 He may not have had the best of games today, but is still one of our best players this season.
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