promised land Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 I cheered when Beckford came on. Does that make me a bad fan? I'm confused. This is what i find ironic, a few weeks ago fans were cheering when Beckford was replaced. Today he replaced Gally and I heard people cheering who the other week were cheering him off. Personally I have never booed but i won't clap them off either but if the person next to me wants to boo or shout foul words at them then that is his decision.
ealingfox Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 We've been underperforming for quite a while now, just before Sven took over, just before he got sacked, then again manager-less and now during Pearson's second tenure. Btw, we didn't take the League One title "at a canter". Promotion and the Title wrapped up with games to spare, 96 points, +45 GD, a 23 match unbeaten run, 4 defeats all season, 7 points clear of 2nd and 9 clear of 3rd. Maybe 'at a canter' is a slight exaggeration but that is indisputably comfortable.
Finnegan Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 Anyone think it was worse than the milwall game? i do Definitely. Was talking about that on the way out. I thought the scoreline flattered Millwall. We were awful, definitely, but not as bad as we were today.
acooling08 Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 Beckford had some real support today and he was still poor, that shot was terrible.
ealingfox Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 Not at all but we did come up with a squad that then seriously over-achieved in the wake of the confidence and momentum promotion gave. Pearson did a fantastic job generating that enthusiasm and as the like of Thracian will attest to, I've had been eager to defend the man in the past when he's been bemoaned by posters here. But many of our fans got an inflated opinion of the likes of Gallagher, Wellens, Howard, King and co' following our brief success and it's time a lot of them let go and accepted that we've got a squad largely comprised of journeymen and a few quality individuals that Sven brought in. Pearson strikes me as another Holloway. A good manager, undeniably, but one who's out of his depth with the weight of expectation and - more significantly - heftier financial backing than he's used to. The club doesn't have "delusions of grandeur", what it has is an extremely professional set of owners with Premier League aspirations who are building a Premier League club. I'm no bozo, I'm well aware it takes hard work and labour to get to the promised land and I'll tolerate our taking sweet time to get there if all's well that ends well. But can the same be said of Top and co'? The pressure to deliver is clearly on Pearson and it strikes me that he's genuinely struggling to produce under it. I really hope I'm wrong, I really hope he turns it around because - beneath the gruff and steely stares - I think he's actually probably a very decent bloke. See, you can be rational, this is unlike your previous posts.
ealingfox Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 Everyone needs to remember it is a team game, because players under or over perform in one team it doesn't mean they will be as bad or good in another. Just ask Fernando Torres. Let Pearson make the personnel changes, that he knows we need just as well as we do, before completely resigning to doom-mongering.
breadandcheese Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 Pearson strikes me as another Holloway. A good manager, undeniably, but one who's out of his depth with the weight of expectation and - more significantly - heftier financial backing than he's used to. The club doesn't have "delusions of grandeur", what it has is an extremely professional set of owners with Premier League aspirations who are building a Premier League club. I'm no bozo, I'm well aware it takes hard work and labour to get to the promised land and I'll tolerate our taking sweet time to get there if all's well that ends well. But can the same be said of Top and co'? The pressure to deliver is clearly on Pearson and it strikes me that he's genuinely struggling to produce under it. I really hope I'm wrong, I really hope he turns it around because - beneath the gruff and steely stares - I think he's actually probably a very decent bloke. I'm not sure what you've got to base that on. The squad Sven assembled was a haphazard group of individuals. That was clear from the fact that from day one up until Sven left, we did not have a first choice eleven, nor a settled formation. Pre-season, Sven was playing a form of 4-3-3, which didn't work when we got into the league season, so he switched to a narrow diamond in the middle of the park, which also had its limitations. We're now expecting Pearson to find a solution to this problem, before he's even brought any players in to fix the balance of the team and improve. So I don't think it's a fair comparison (Pearson and Holloway). Pearson is streaks ahead and you've only got to look at the signings he made for us in the past as well as Hull to see that. Today's a bad result and an awful performance, but from the person Pearson is, it will hurt him as much as us. I'm still very confident for the future on his stewardship.
Finnegan Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 See, you can be rational, this is unlike your previous posts. Uhh... most of my posts pretty much read like that. Preachy and overly wordy is my bag, baby. I'm just immensely ****ed off today and in the mood to swear my tits off and rant.
THEFATBASTARD Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 Sorry son you are a clown, blame the fans, blame the weather ,blame sun fooking spots, don't blame the over paid, over egoed ,big talking players and staff..no its nothing to do with them...we lost at home to BARNSLEY....we are 15th in this league,FACt..I feel gutted for Top and his family, they don't deserve this shower..
cambridgefox Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 Uhh... most of my posts pretty much read like that. Preachy and overly wordy is my bag, baby. I'm just immensely ****ed off today and in the mood to swear my tits off and rant. i dare not say too much i am livid and feel exactly the same,i was lucky as the stream i had was free and a bit blurry so i didnt get the full shitness.Im sure the players with their egos and high salaries do not log on here but if they do perhaps this week they should go to general chat and MikeyTs thread on HELP FIGHT CANCER and donate some of their not so hard earned cash to a worthy cause.
ealingfox Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 Uhh... most of my posts pretty much read like that. Preachy and overly wordy is my bag, baby. I'm just immensely ****ed off today and in the mood to swear my tits off and rant. But without the heavy doom-mongering.
Londonfox22 Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 In any profession you will receive feedback on your performance so why should this be any different? Half the players don't look like they care or want it enough, so the feedback they receive is a boo....its a different story if they didn't have the ability and worked their socks off and lost, the difference is they are a top rated team who on paper should be storming the league...its the likes of beckford and gallagher, wellens, king who just lack interest and give up too easily. If the players aren't putting in the effort for the fans then is it unfair for the fans not to put in the effort at the end of the game? Also I would get boo'd for 90minutes every week for the money they are on, no sympathy
mustapha_teabreak Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 This is a rather silly topic isn't it? in the good old days when clubs were owned by sensible people, and managers stayed at clubs 4-5 years on average i would agree about the booing. but this is today, where rich arseholes with money to burn turn clubs into playthings, without regard for their history, and then make them a laughing stock by putting each manager on the merry go round under so much pressure to instantly perform? mandaric ruined this club before top and co took over. that willy puller took us into the third tier for the first time EVER. i never want to see his ugly face near our ground again. it seems top and co whilst not being as personally obnoxious as the MOF, have no clue how to run a football club. had it occurred to any of you "lets get behind the lads whatever shit they're churning out" PSI brigade, that since top and co have stopped coming maybe, just maybe, people are booing so it can be heard loud and clear on Thai tv, that we don't like our club messed with, we didn't ask for pearson to go first time around, and we didn't ask for him back the second time. i vote for booing, but just don't assume it's all aimed at the players.
ealingfox Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 Uhh... most of my posts pretty much read like that. Preachy and overly wordy is my bag, baby. I'm just immensely ****ed off today and in the mood to swear my tits off and rant. And, if you don't mind me asking, what do you think is the best course of action for us from here?
Karljohn Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 Our fans mostly piss me off whether we're winning or losing, most of you are completely retarded and Foxes Talk's posters are no exception. But having sat in the bitter cold today and having paid good money to watch over-earning professionals put on that shit a performance I'll defend anyone's right to vocally express their disgust. That was one of the most sickeningly incompetent performances I've ever had to sit through. If I was that bad at my job I'd be disciplined and, if David Cameron gets his way, sacked in weeks! I didn't boo, I never have, but nor did I feel any ill will to anyone who did. The "boys" deserve all the criticism they get. Inept. Too depressed to wade through pages of replies and look at other threads, this is absolutely spot on, sums up how im feeling right now and how ive been feeling for weeks about my football club, fast falling out of love, not because weve been turned over but because whether its Barnsley or Barcelona half of our team couldnt give a shit. I didnt boo today, just stood staring in disbelief at the sack of shit in front of me, utterly dejected, only Dyer and Kasper were positive and direct, the rest was horrible.
Mack Posted 14 January 2012 Author Posted 14 January 2012 There is a theme here and I think we are getting to the root of the resentment. So many people here have mentioned the money the players earn that I think it's fair to deduce that there is a lot of resentment amongst our fans and probably the public at large at the amount footballers are paid. And thus it seems fair game to shout whatever you like at a footballer because he earns a shit load of cash. Sod the fact that you are supposed to be a supporter of the team and want it to do well. 'Top told us we were going up and these overpaid lazy tossers are not delivering so I'm going to wind all my pent up anger from my stressful work and home life into the overpaid pricks that play for my team.' I understand it now, and it makes me sad if I'm honest.
MrFox781 Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 On a random note. We'll talk about this when were in League one next season.
Finnegan Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 But without the heavy doom-mongering. Excuse me, what? Who's doom-mongering? I've made no prophecy. In fact, I think we're clearly not going down, we can't be much worse than we have been over the last few matches and I still believe a good run of wins could put us up in to play-off contention given how insanely open the league is this season. It's always a competitive division but this year has been exceptional in it's open-ness. And, if you don't mind me asking, what do you think is the best course of action for us from here? Sign a ****ing midfield and ban Matt Mills from any pass greater than six yards.
mustapha_teabreak Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 excellent, you've got it, finally. so stop blaming the fans now. There is a theme here and I think we are getting to the root of the resentment. So many people here have mentioned the money the players earn that I think it's fair to deduce that there is a lot of resentment amongst our fans and probably the public at large at the amount footballers are paid. And thus it seems fair game to shout whatever you like at a footballer because he earns a shit load of cash. Sod the fact that you are supposed to be a supporter of the team and want it to do well. 'Top told us we were going up and these overpaid lazy tossers are not delivering so I'm going to wind all my pent up anger from my stressful work and home life into the overpaid pricks that play for my team.' I understand it now, and it makes me sad if I'm honest.
Londonfox22 Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 There is a theme here and I think we are getting to the root of the resentment. So many people here have mentioned the money the players earn that I think it's fair to deduce that there is a lot of resentment amongst our fans and probably the public at large at the amount footballers are paid. And thus it seems fair game to shout whatever you like at a footballer because he earns a shit load of cash. Sod the fact that you are supposed to be a supporter of the team and want it to do well. 'Top told us we were going up and these overpaid lazy tossers are not delivering so I'm going to wind all my pent up anger from my stressful work and home life into the overpaid pricks that play for my team.' I understand it now, and it makes me sad if I'm honest. People may say footballers are overpaid and nurses etc should be on more money, which in an ideal world is true...however it is supply and demand and a footballer earns the wage they do because it is a business..e.g Wayne Rooney is on a shit load of money, because out of millions of people that play football world wide there are not many with that talent...its the same in any industry. I believe the issue to be, it is hard to feel sorry for a player e.g. in Leicester City's case that is paid so much money, but isn't putting in the effort. They have the talent and that's why they are paid so much, but they are not using it to there full ability because they simply don't want it enough, are not putting in the effort and don't have the winning drive...kasper schmeichel is a player who fans would be happy to pay the wages for as he wants it, its the players that just don't care that can be classed as being 'overpaid' Its a sweeping statement to say its everyone with " pent up anger from my stressful work and home life" to boo...its more the people that are frustrated to have spent a lot of time and actually given a damn about a bunch of individuals that clearly didn't........its the fact they have the talent and are good, but simply don't want it enough and lack the effort that the fans deserve...
Lovejoy Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 I genuinely might not bother again this season. The shite on the pitch I can deal with, it's hardly a new concept to LCFC. But paying a packet on fuel and tickets to be associated with our "fans"? Fcuk about, what an embarrassment .
lcfcadam Posted 14 January 2012 Posted 14 January 2012 You know all this "our fans" stuff? I assume you all realise that every single fanbase of every single British football team would react in exactly the same way if their circumstances were swapped with ours?
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