Kitchandro Posted 14 March 2012 Posted 14 March 2012 By not running the channels, "goal-hanging" to an extent, but being in the middle to convert chances. He does need to improve away, I agree with that. Fair enough if that's what he's doing. But if the ball is five yards ahead and he doesn't chase it down, or the defender has it and he won't close it down, half-hearted attempts to tackle when the ball is there to be won, if he's standing around behind defenders when we're in possession and need options, instead of showing for it or making a run, these are the things that are just lazy.
seenitall Posted 14 March 2012 Posted 14 March 2012 Gimme a headless chicken who kisses the badge and smiles a lot any day
marbelladave Posted 14 March 2012 Posted 14 March 2012 I rarely see the long ball, I do see us mixing play up and part of that is getting the ball forward quickly but just the same part of it is pinging it around, or more measured stuff... It's a mix. Seriously, you believe this?........ Our usual routine is to bring the ball out of defence, tippy tap it about, nice and slowly, then when we are put under any kind of pressure we play it back to our keeper or centerbacks to hoof it forward to our strikers who are, by this point, nice and tightly marked. This, above all else is our primary problem going forward.......
Jace Posted 14 March 2012 Posted 14 March 2012 We really are a strange club when it comes to fowards, we have ruined many half decent strikers by catergorising them as not good enough yet we are the only club ever thats treated Emile Heskey like a true legend!
Guest Col city fan Posted 14 March 2012 Posted 14 March 2012 As it is, that would still make me cleverer than most on here so I'll take it Do you ever want to discuss anything with anybody or just post up daft one liners telling us all how stupid we all are? What's the purpose of your involvement here? Serious question...
Guest ttfn Posted 14 March 2012 Posted 14 March 2012 Horsefield, waghorn, akinbye, howard, fryatt, benjamin i could keep going for hours but am getting too depressed to continue. 9 from the last 6 at home. Bet no one can tell me who has ever performed as well over 6 home games i the last 40 years?, Fryatt did it in 2008. Scored 11 in 7 in November and December. That's assuming we're counting games against no-hopers, which you've done in this absurd statistic you keep trotting out. Here's another. Who was the last City striker to fail to score in any of his first 17 away games for the club?
whoareyaaa Posted 14 March 2012 Posted 14 March 2012 I suppose people would rather have Emile Heskey here now instead of Beckford insane but true, Beckfords decent people need to lay off him hes been putting in the shifts for the last few months and I bet he goes and shuts you all up again the FA Cup game at Chelsea when he scores a wonder goal last minute.
Ashley Posted 14 March 2012 Posted 14 March 2012 But that's just a silly comment really isn't it. Because if we had Messi of course we wouldn't moan about him. But we haven't got Messi, we've got Beckford. People should lay off him while he's playing well but it goes both ways. There doesn't need to be an extreme opinion all the while - he's underperformed, he's not been worth the money so far, but this calender year he's been better and he scored 2 last night. Everyone should be happy with him at this time without having a wankfest. Not really, no. The point I'm making is we had a quality striker last year in Yakubu. The majorty of this forum didn't like him because 'he only scored goals' Goals win games! Look where he is now, at Blackburn and has 14 or 15 goals in a struggling premier league team? Our fans will never and I mean never be happy!
Kitchandro Posted 14 March 2012 Posted 14 March 2012 Not really, no. The point I'm making is we had a quality striker last year in Yakubu. The majorty of this forum didn't like him because 'he only scored goals' Goals win games! Look where he is now, at Blackburn and has 14 or 15 goals in a struggling premier league team? Our fans will never and I mean never be happy! Yes but they didn't win enough games did they! Yakubu isn't freakin' Messi is he? He's Yakubu! You need to ask yourself why a player who scored a good amount of goals was unpopular with quite a few. It's because, as I said above, he was absolutely useless half the time. What good is it scoring one or two goals if you're going to hinder your teammates the rest of the time? It's not good enough to not try and to be invisible half the time. It's the same at Blackburn I should think, they are battling relegation for a reason. You only see his goals on MOTD, you don't see the whole 90 minutes. You don't see that run of games where he didn't score and he made no positive impact on the team whatsoever. Messi is probably the greatest player of all time, Yakubu is just a talented but lazy striker. People moaned about Yakubu for a reason. He was as inconsistent as a lot of players in this squad and unlike Nugent (who almost never gets stick) he didn't put in the effort or make a positive difference when he wasn't scoring. Like I said, players need to play for the team, that's how you get a team ethic, something we lacked last season, and something we lacked this. I don't care if a player is a talented individual that 50% of the time looks a class above. I want consistent players who offer something positive in almost every game. I want 11 players who play with commitment and pull together when the going gets tough.
blueredswed Posted 14 March 2012 Posted 14 March 2012 this thread is like a chickenbox who is or was stop, get behind our strikers sometimes they are good sometimes don´t but it is not me or you who is taken out the team! GET BEHIND THE HOLE TEAM NOW :scarf: :scarf:
Wherethefoxhat? Posted 14 March 2012 Posted 14 March 2012 this thread is like a chickenbox who is or was stop, get behind our strikers sometimes they are good sometimes don´t but it is not me or you who is taken out the team! GET BEHIND THE HOLE TEAM NOW :scarf: :scarf: Leicester Ladies ?
blueredswed Posted 14 March 2012 Posted 14 March 2012 Leicester Ladies ? hahaha you knew mee very well and I´m not a lady...
lcfcbaby Posted 14 March 2012 Posted 14 March 2012 Leicester Ladies ? Hahaha I played for them for a season!
Guest Col city fan Posted 14 March 2012 Posted 14 March 2012 hahaha you knew mee very well and I´m not a lady... Stop flirting you two!
Wherethefoxhat? Posted 14 March 2012 Posted 14 March 2012 Hahaha I played for them for a season! What........ errrrrr....... position baby ?
lcfcbaby Posted 14 March 2012 Posted 14 March 2012 What........ errrrrr....... position baby ? pahahaha. Right wing/Right Back
Wherethefoxhat? Posted 14 March 2012 Posted 14 March 2012 pahahaha. Right wing/Right Back Still play ?
lcfcbaby Posted 14 March 2012 Posted 14 March 2012 Still play ? Not for Leicester Ladies because I moved down south but yeah I do but currently injured!
Guest Col city fan Posted 14 March 2012 Posted 14 March 2012 Not for Leicester Ladies because I moved down south but yeah I do but currently injured! Can you and WTFH get a room!!
Guest ttfn Posted 14 March 2012 Posted 14 March 2012 Beckford does other things too, he made a sliding tackle yesterday, and he also set-up Nugent's goals against Watford, Norwich and Coventry. I think that's stretching it. Certainly, he'd be credited with the "assist" against Watford and Coventry, but he wouldn't against Norwich, although arguably his contribution there was far more important than the Watford and Coventry goals. The Watford goal was a nice header, which Nugent then controlled on his chest and volleyed in from 20 yards. That really is pushing the boundaries of the phrase "set-up". The fact remains that despite the ravings about his brilliant partnership with Nugent, he has a grand total of 3 assists this season (source: Soccernet). I know he hasn't, but you've seen on this forum that people are divided. Yakubu wasn't all that popular, primarily down to his work-rate because his record was good. If Beckford brings goals consistently over a season yet still plays the same way will people get off his back then? I know what you mean about people wanting different things. If Beckford scores 20 league goals a season, then fine. But I think that is the absolute minimum requirement for a centre-forward who offers nothing to the team in terms of work-rate or hold-up play. I have absolutely no problem with a player who only scores goals, providing that they are actually scoring them. For the record, I really rated Yakubu here last season. I thought he was a completely different kettle of fish to Yakubu, not least because he scored at twice the rate. But you also need to factor in his routinely superb hold-up play, which gave us the "out" ball for much of the second half of last season (provided it was accurate enough that he didn't have to run after it!)
accessory Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 I think that's stretching it. Certainly, he'd be credited with the "assist" against Watford and Coventry, but he wouldn't against Norwich, although arguably his contribution there was far more important than the Watford and Coventry goals. The Watford goal was a nice header, which Nugent then controlled on his chest and volleyed in from 20 yards. That really is pushing the boundaries of the phrase "set-up". The fact remains that despite the ravings about his brilliant partnership with Nugent, he has a grand total of 3 assists this season (source: Soccernet). I know what you mean about people wanting different things. If Beckford scores 20 league goals a season, then fine. But I think that is the absolute minimum requirement for a centre-forward who offers nothing to the team in terms of work-rate or hold-up play. I have absolutely no problem with a player who only scores goals, providing that they are actually scoring them. For the record, I really rated Yakubu here last season. I thought he was a completely different kettle of fish to Yakubu, not least because he scored at twice the rate. But you also need to factor in his routinely superb hold-up play, which gave us the "out" ball for much of the second half of last season (provided it was accurate enough that he didn't have to run after it!) Rose-tinted glasses here.. I bet Wes Morgan and Matt Mills have some banter at training as to who kept the Yak in their pockets longer last season. And they weren't the only ones to do so. Yakubu was a flat-track bully for us - ruthless against weak defences, toothless against decent ones..
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