Offensive phrases!

[broughtonblue]

Friday night in our house is the time to relax after a hard week at work, so we have a bottle of wine and a 'chinky'.

Reading through recent threads I have become aware that I'm some sort of dinosaur in the eyes of some on here for saying that word.

I was brought up with a rhyme as follows, Sticks and stones may brake your bones, but names will never hurt you!

What other phrases are taboo in these days of political correctness, that other people use on a regular basis?

Reading the coments on here I should be publicly flogged at the clock tower, but I think re-education through foxestalk by the younger generation might be a better bet.

[AoWW]

This isn't gonna end well.

On the plus side, I'm liking the mental image of my bones braking.

[I am Rod Hull]

"Porridge wog" - a Jock (person from north of the border)

[NeilyBoy]

Friday night in our house is the time to relax after a hard week at work, so we have a bottle of wine and a 'chinky'.

Reading through recent threads I have become aware that I'm some sort of dinosaur in the eyes of some on here for saying that word.

I was brought up with a rhyme as follows, Sticks and stones may brake your bones, but names will never hurt you!

What other phrases are taboo in these days of political correctness, that other people use on a regular basis?

Reading the coments on here I should be publicly flogged at the clock tower, but I think re-education through foxestalk by the younger generation might be a better bet.

Why has nobody else thought of that? If we told that to the gooks, pakis, niggers, wetbacks, ragheads etc. then there'd be none of this 'PC' silliness.

[broughtonblue]

This isn't gonna end well.

On the plus side, I'm liking the mental image of my bones braking.

I'm already hiding behind my wall, might stick my head up in a few days!!!!

[I am Rod Hull]

Why has nobody else thought of that? If we told that to the gooks, pakis, niggers, wetbacks, ragheads etc. then there'd be none of this 'PC' silliness.

They`re all a little bit too touche.....

[NeilyBoy]

My two cents: It's fine to unwittingly use a slur in all innocence. But to make a sarcastic thread to defend the use of such language after it's been explained to be an unacceptable slur is, well, brainless.

If you're not being sarcastic then I apologise and question what exactly you want from this thread.

[I am Rod Hull]

My two cents: It's fine to unwittingly use a slur in all innocence. But to make a sarcastic thread to defend the use of such language after it's been explained to be an unacceptable slur is, well, brainless.

If you're not being sarcastic then I apologise and question what exactly you want from this thread.

You would have hated it down the pit.....

[Captain...]

There is a valid point in there, I was having a drunken race discussion with a couple of mates at the weekend and we came to the conclusion that racism will never die out until we can freely make jokes about skin colour and nationality without causing any offence.

One thing to bear in mind is that offense can only be taken and not given, I cannot offend you if you don't let me, when it comes to terms like chinky, is it really racist? It is not on the same level as Paki or Nigger, but then all of this is subjective.

What about the word Sudaka (incidentally what Evra is alledged to have called Suarez) to you and me that means nothing, but to a South American when used by a Spanish person is very offensive. That goes back to the Spanish conquistadors and South American colonization.

Is Chink more offensive than Saffer, Kiwi, Pom, Kraut, Frog or any other term of casual racism we use with impunity.

Another example is guido, what was once an offensive term for Italian American has now been reclaimed to mean orange skinned spiky haired twat and proud.

To call it a chinky is not racist, to believe that you are superior to chinese people is racist and can be acheived without using the word chink or chinky, we put to much importance on the words that are used and not what is actually said, you see the BNP and EDL "politicians" carefully selecting their words so as not to use any of the "taboo" words whilst still being incredibly racist and offensive, but as long as they don't use the word Paki it is ok.

In summary, it is not the words you use that define you as a racist, you are a racist if you are a racist.

[ozleicester]

"Kermo was decent"

you see what you shouldve done, was never post this question

[FoxyPV]

"Jesus Christ is my saviour"

[Raw Dykes]

There is a valid point in there, I was having a drunken race discussion with a couple of mates at the weekend and we came to the conclusion that racism will never die out until we can freely make jokes about skin colour and nationality without causing any offence.

One thing to bear in mind is that offense can only be taken and not given, I cannot offend you if you don't let me, when it comes to terms like chinky, is it really racist? It is not on the same level as Paki or Nigger, but then all of this is subjective.

What about the word Sudaka (incidentally what Evra is alledged to have called Suarez) to you and me that means nothing, but to a South American when used by a Spanish person is very offensive. That goes back to the Spanish conquistadors and South American colonization.

Is Chink more offensive than Saffer, Kiwi, Pom, Kraut, Frog or any other term of casual racism we use with impunity.

Another example is guido, what was once an offensive term for Italian American has now been reclaimed to mean orange skinned spiky haired twat and proud.

You forgot Wop, Dago, Honky, Gringo and Cracker.

To call it a chinky is not racist, to believe that you are superior to chinese people is racist and can be acheived without using the word chink or chinky, we put to much importance on the words that are used and not what is actually said, you see the BNP and EDL "politicians" carefully selecting their words so as not to use any of the "taboo" words whilst still being incredibly racist and offensive, but as long as they don't use the word Paki it is ok.

In summary, it is not the words you use that define you as a racist, you are a racist if you are a racist.

It?! They are people too, you know? Maybe you're right about that word, but I'm sure it is offensive to call a person "it" instead of he/him or she/her.

In all seriousness, I do agree. I think most casual racist terms are relatively harmless, but there are a couple that are rightfully taboo because they carry weight due to their history.

[acooling08]

Haha 'Chinky'.

Reminds me of that song on family guy:

'And Mr Chinaman say in his Chinaman way, "a ding a ling a ching a chong a ching a chong choo"'

[Dan]

There is a valid point in there, I was having a drunken race discussion with a couple of mates at the weekend and we came to the conclusion that racism will never die out until we can freely make jokes about skin colour and nationality without causing any offence.

One thing to bear in mind is that offense can only be taken and not given, I cannot offend you if you don't let me, when it comes to terms like chinky, is it really racist? It is not on the same level as Paki or Nigger, but then all of this is subjective.

What about the word Sudaka (incidentally what Evra is alledged to have called Suarez) to you and me that means nothing, but to a South American when used by a Spanish person is very offensive. That goes back to the Spanish conquistadors and South American colonization.

Is Chink more offensive than Saffer, Kiwi, Pom, Kraut, Frog or any other term of casual racism we use with impunity.

Another example is guido, what was once an offensive term for Italian American has now been reclaimed to mean orange skinned spiky haired twat and proud.

To call it a chinky is not racist, to believe that you are superior to chinese people is racist and can be acheived without using the word chink or chinky, we put to much importance on the words that are used and not what is actually said, you see the BNP and EDL "politicians" carefully selecting their words so as not to use any of the "taboo" words whilst still being incredibly racist and offensive, but as long as they don't use the word Paki it is ok.

In summary, it is not the words you use that define you as a racist, you are a racist if you are a racist.

Absolutely fantastic post and sums up my entire thoughts on racism.

I'm not a racist, and by that I mean I don't deliberately make exceptions/discriminations against people of a different ethnic background.

I just don't tend to make a big deal of it, and that for me does more for anti-racism than some beards in their tweed parading about with placards.

[NeilyBoy]

^^^ I fully agree with the above points but you have to be aware that some words will simply cause offence whether you mean to or not, and that's the real crux of the issue.

It's best just to avoid such terms altogether.

[UpTheLeagueFox]

Saying "I'm not racist but..." usually precedes some nasty racist drivel by a person trying to make a racist point without wanting to sound racist.

[ozleicester]

Im afraid that neither I or you are able to decide whether what we say, in jest, or without intending to harm, will be received that way, therefore it is our responsibility to try to be inoffensive. (for example, none of us walks up to the bride on her wedding day and says "you look like an ugly bucket of sh!t" on her wedding day)

The easiest way to do this is to not use the words that we are told are already acknowledged as being offensive to some. If you use a word in the future and some says they are honestly offended by it, then stop using it...seems easy enough, there isnt a shortage of words.

You see what we should have done was stick with grunting and groaning as our language.

[The Doctor]

"Porridge wog" - a Jock (person from north of the border)

- Deep fried porridge wog.

Why will no-one appreciate the qualities of deep-frying everything?

[Daggers]

What about the word Sudaka (incidentally what Evra is alledged to have called Suarez) to you and me that means nothing, but to a South American when used by a Spanish person is very offensive. That goes back to the Spanish conquistadors and South American colonization.

No it doesn't and no it's not.

Sudaka is an abbreviation of Sud Americana (a South American) which was a word which only came into pop culture in the late 80s through a film. The only possible offence which could be taken from it would be the inflection put into the word because not one single person I know gives a shit about it.

[Zingari]

No it doesn't and no it's not.

Sudaka is an abbreviation of Sud Americana (a South American) which was a word which only came into pop culture in the late 80s through a film. The only possible offence which could be taken from it would be the inflection put into the word because not one single person I know gives a shit about it.

That’s bollox , Neil Sudaka was singing crap pop songs like “OH CAROL” in a girly voice way back in the early 60’s and being called a Sudaka was very offensive and almost like being called a Will Young now .

Get your facts straight !!

Seriously though , I’m glad you cleared that up for me sir.

I was thinking , who the fook would take umbrage at be likened to a Japanese number puzzle ?

[OzFox]

^^^ I fully agree with the above points but you have to be aware that some words will simply cause offence whether you mean to or not, and that's the real crux of the issue.

It's best just to avoid such terms altogether.

Somebody should point that out to the Aussies (sorry I mean our Australian brothers)

Pom, wog, Leb are fairly common over here. "Coon" seems to be popular in outback Queensland, although Australia's favourite cheese goes by the same name (the founder was Edward Coon)

I get called a Pom or Pommy bastard all the time. Don't bat an eyelid personally, and I'm amazed anyone would get offended by such terms. There's far worse things in life, like being an Aussie for instance

[Captain...]

It?! They are people too, you know? Maybe you're right about that word, but I'm sure it is offensive to call a person "it" instead of he/him or she/her.

In all seriousness, I do agree. I think most casual racist terms are relatively harmless, but there are a couple that are rightfully taboo because they carry weight due to their history.

My mistake I thought that the OP was talking about having a chinese take-away.

Friday night in our house is the time to relax after a hard week at work, so we have a bottle of wine and a 'chinky'.

Maybe he did mean a chinese person, maybe he meant a chinese porstitute that they spit-roasted while having a bottle of wine.

[Zingari]

Are there any words or phrases that I, as a white hetero male can feel legitimately offended by ?

I'm feeling very left out at the moment

[OzFox]

Are there any words or phrases that I, as a white hetero male can feel legitimately offended by ?

I'm feeling very left out at the moment

Conspiracy nut?

Actually you'll probably take that as a compliment

[Captain...]

No it doesn't and no it's not.

Sudaka is an abbreviation of Sud Americana (a South American) which was a word which only came into pop culture in the late 80s through a film. The only possible offence which could be taken from it would be the inflection put into the word because not one single person I know gives a shit about it.

Of course nothing could be deemed offensive if it is an abbreviation *cough* paki *cough*

It may not have been coined during the time of the conquistadors but the tensions exist between South Americans and Spanish because of that in the way it doesn't exist between Spanish and Africans, and English and South Americans.

And yes it is offensive, just because you don't know anybody that is offended by it doesn't prove anything, I know people that are so therefore it is offensive, even if it is only offensive to the people from South America that I have met and no other South Americans in the world.

From the Telegraph:

Had Suarez been an Arab or an Asian, would Evra had dared to tell him, "don't touch me you Asian" or "don't touch me you Arab". I don't think so. In my opinion there is very little understanding of the discrimination that Latin Americans suffer in places such as the USA and more close to home, Spain, where especially for people like Luis Suarez, born in the southern part of the Americas, they have the very offensive term "sudaca", which is the equivalent of "Paki" here in the UK. So, the FA considers discrimination based on the colour of the skin as racist, but discrimination based on your place of origin a fine thing?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/8969738/Liverpools-Luis-Suarez-guilty-of-racially-abusing-Patrice-Evra-live.html