EDL stages far-right European rally in Denmark

[carlhltid]

Are you Colin Foxyroidperv in disguise?

Edit: On an aside, they actually are not all behind it no, you may have noticed this on the news over the past decade or so?

news hahaha wot aload of shit that is

[HEGGSY]

Well you've both done a sterling P.R. job for the EDL there. I'm completely won over, where do I sign up.

I thought that was Rory Mcilroy.

[carlhltid]

stfut?

shut the f**k up tw@t stfu thats what it means

[Nick]

news hahaha wot aload of shit that is

The prosecution rests.

[carlhltid]

when the edl is mentioned why do all the little students all start to act hard

[carlhltid]

Just for the sake of balance.

I have no truck with the EDL and its wishes, but, following Voltaire, I defend their right to hold and express their views, even if they are offensive to me.

Would I be considered racist or a member of the EDL if I took the following statement:

[Which I agree with, by the way] and changed it to:

[which I also agree with]

Would this make people on here decry me as EDL? Presumably by mocking my grammar (which is not the same as winning an argument, by the way).

Everyone, including the EDL and including the Islamists of Luton, should be allowed to hold and express their view peaceably and within the law. As long as there is no incitement to violence or law breaking, they should be allowed to hold and express their opinions. Even if they are moronic and even if "the majority" disagree with them.

well said pal

[AdamN]

Would I be considered racist or a member of the EDL if I took the following statement:

[Which I agree with, by the way] and changed it to:

[which I also agree with]

Would this make people on here decry me as EDL? Presumably by mocking my grammar (which is not the same as winning an argument, by the way).

Not really. That just demonstrates that you dislike religion in general - a point that many anti-EDL people will happily get on board with. If however you limited your hatred to Islam, then yes, it would make you a bigoted idiot, as there are absolutely no grounds for hating one and not the other, other than prejudices scraped from the bottom of the big shit stirring cauldron that are tabloid headlines.

[Nick]

when the edl is mentioned why do all the little students all start to act hard

No prejudice to see here, everybody move along now.

[Vacamion]

Not really. That just demonstrates that you dislike religion in general - a point that many anti-EDL people will happily get on board with. If however you limited your hatred to Islam, then yes, it would make you a bigoted idiot, as there are absolutely no grounds for hating one and not the other, other than prejudices scraped from the bottom of the big shit stirring cauldron that are tabloid headlines.

You have me correctly pegged as no fan of religion in general.

I disagree, however, that there are no grounds for disliking one religion (Islam) more than others, though.

You don't see Anglicans flying planes into buildings. You don't see Mormon elders openly advocating the cruel phsyical punishment of homosexuals and you don't see many Jewish fatwas against cartoonists.

The cruelties and illogicalities of religions in general are vile but Islam and its adherents appear to have further to go to reach rational, peaceful co-existence with non-believers than most other religions.

A religion which fosters notions of a requirement to serve a jealous or vengeful deity by converting or killing infidels to obtain rewards in an afterlife is to be discouraged at the best of times. In an age of dirty bombs, chemical weapons and large population centres, it is a disaster waiting to happen.

Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris have both made this point better than I have, however.

Contrary to your suggestion, I haven't seen this view expressed in a tabloid, but maybe I read the wrong newspapers...

[The Doctor]

when the edl is mentioned why do all the little students all start to act hard

'cause I is well 'ard innit bro?

Can't speak for everyone, but the majority don't start to act hard, they just voice their opinions - which are that the EDL is a thuggish organisation that causes more trouble than it's worse, and if anything makes the problems that they "protest" against even worse.

Vacamion - In general I agree, but the whole Islam being more detestable that others, I'm not so sure. There are a few things that, when associated with Islam get people really riled up - such as the anti-gay agenda & treating women as a sub-class to men, but there are still aspects of that in other religions that don't see nearly as much vilification for it. I'd agree Islam is further from peaceful co-existence than others due to their stronger fundamentalist section compared to others though.

[Rincewind]

I saw a picture well two side by side. One had a Muslim woman looking at a girl in a short dress and low top with a thought bubble along the lines of 'White women slave to males.

The other picture had a white woman looking at a Muslim woman with a veil with a thought bubble with the same words.

TBH I had never really looked at it from that POV before.

Modern women dress to please not just themselves but the male as well. EG. look at all the 'babe' and 'hot celeb' pics posted on here. Would they be 'hot' if they had clothes on?

TV ads use women to sell anything from cars to beer to pasties. Maybe the Muslim women do not want to go down the same route even if it is self choice.

[Rincewind]

[purpleronnie]

[Finnegan]

But god damn I prefer our oppression.

[Daggers]

I'm scared of Muslamic raygums

With good reason, probably

[carlhltid]

our girls choose to dress like this there not forced too

[Finnegan]

our girls choose to dress like this there not forced too

Because centuries of social conditioning dictates they should, to be visually pleasing to a mate.

Many muslim women wear veils by choice as a show of faith because centuries of social conditioning dictates they should ONLY be visually to their mate.

The only real difference is apparently we're a much hornier bunch who like to show our catch off!

[carlhltid]

Because centuries of social conditioning dictates they should, to be visually pleasing to a mate.

Many muslim women wear veils by choice as a show of faith because centuries of social conditioning dictates they should ONLY be visually to their mate.

The only real difference is apparently we're a much hornier bunch who like to show our catch off!

at the last line

[Trav Le Bleu]

Whilst the EDL were in Denmark did they demand the "return" of the Faroe Islands?

[Rincewind]

Women may choose to wear less in this country but in the last 100 years there have been many changes. Suffergettes, WW2, 50's, 60's Womens Lib etc. Women now think of themselves as equal to men, but they still dress mainly to please and attract men and men encourage it. Women are teasers. They don't seem to mind the attraction and play on it to get what they want. Muslim women not all are a bit more modest. They may change in time. In GB Victorian era women had long dresses and half a dozen undergarments which kept men at bay. And probably frustrated.