King Power Attendance

[FuriousFox46]

Because Leicester is known for its Rugby as well as Football, and Leicester Tigers are the most successful English rugby club. They are the equivelent of someone like Man Utd. A factor why we only get just above 20,000 at home could be the amount of ethnic cultures there are in the city, I'm not trying to be stereotypical but many Indian boys support the big clubs like Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal, and they dont see the attraction of supporting a second tier side. I have many asian friends but I only know two in my entire college that truly support Leicester.

'but' is where you failed.

[Guest nathan.]

For the amount of shit we have had in the last 8 years along with ever increasing ticket prices our attendance has been pretty good.

[OriginalRobboFOX]

I'm not trying to be stereotypical but....

[Lobsterboyuk]

Well we average more at the KP in the Championship with dearer tickets than we were able to accommodate at Filbert Street, and there were many matches in the Premiership then that we failed to sell out.

I'd say that the KP is a positive rather than a negative with regards to attendances, although the prices do put many people off.

Agreed

20 years ago I paid £7.50 at Filbo and with low inflation rates, wage rise stagnation etc since then it must be much more expensive now in real terms going to the KP. Average attendance at Filbo was more like 12,000 - 15,000 IIRC in the second tier - so KP has much better attendances on average?

[RowlattsFox]

As strange as it sounds, I'm glad we dont sellout every game. Means I can a get a ticket whenever I want and afford to. Would kill me if I never got to a game because we were always sold out.

Selfish I know.

[FuriousFox46]

Thought it was like 28,000 against Ipswich on Boxing Day

27k vs. Leeds

[stourbridgefox]

The fact that Filbert Street was always pushing its capacity in the Premier League acted as a disincentive to people going.

If you didn't have a season ticket, you had to choose your games weeks in advance and organise your friends to do so too so you would be sitting with them.

It was a bit of a faff.

I remember someone saying to me when discussing the new stadium that we didn't need it because sometimes Filbert Street wasn't sold out. I said it would change the 'culture' of buying tickets and make it possible for casual or disorganised fans to buy on the day and therefore increase attendances.

I think that is what has happened.

[Daggers]

I said it would change the 'culture' of buying tickets and make it possible for casual or disorganised fans to buy on the day and therefore increase attendances.

I think that is what has happened.

How does anything get cheaper or easier that for this disorganised fan than to be able to turn up and pay cash at the turnstile like I used to?

No queuing for tickets, no booking fees, no client reference numbers. I loved the old days

[stourbridgefox]

Oh to be 18-25 again.

Steady job, live with parents, nothing to spend copious* amounts of disposable income on other than beer, holidays and football.

And home matches were cheaper than away matches so they must've been good value!

*Copious is a relative term. I'm not suggesting I was rich, but that it seems a copious amount of disposable income in these days of mortgages, kids at university and numerous other things to pay for before any income can be considered to be disposable.

[whitwickfox]

Two main reasons

Ticket prices

The dross on the field

[thybluefox]

Imagine how many more people would bitch if we were like Norwich who have nearly all of their seats occupied by ST holders.

We do well considering all the factors.

[jonthefox]

if they cut the cost, then they'd make more money.. simple business!

[HEGGSY]

[ThurnbyLodgeFox]

not really.. they can make as much with fewer people paying higher prices so they have no need to lower..

lowering with more attending getting the same amount of money would look much better

[Milton Keynes Fox]

Business side for the club:

take an under 16 ticket: (average price £14)

21,000ish x £14 = £294,000

30,000 (higher attendance) x £5 = £150,000

This is probably why we will never see cheap tickets.

[onecapwonder]

Business side for the club:

take an under 16 ticket: (average price £14)

21,000ish x £14 = £294,000

30,000 (higher attendance) x £5 = £150,000

This is probably why we will never see cheap tickets.

However having a larger attendance should lead to more takings from food, drink and club shops sales on the day, which could compensate. Given there used to be more regular fan's fixtures and ticket offers (the birthday 2 for 1 has gone) the club may have done the maths and come to your conclusion that the larger crowds don't lead to more takings.

However, this really shouldn't be soley about profit, ticket prices should reflect the quality of football on offer, standards of facilities, local wages and should be used to help create a better match day experience for fans, i.e. lowering prices to get more people in should be considered an option even if it does lead to lower takings. Gouging people for everything you can get (not that I'm suggesting thats what Leicester are doing) isn't sustaianable and treats as fans just another revenue stream as opposed to them being the lifeblood of a club (and while we all know we aren't clubs should at least try to pretend its the case).

[Milton Keynes Fox]

However having a larger attendance should lead to more takings from food, drink and club shops sales on the day, which could compensate. Given there used to be more regular fan's fixtures and ticket offers (the birthday 2 for 1 has gone) the club may have done the maths and come to your conclusion that the larger crowds don't lead to more takings.

However, this really shouldn't be soley about profit, ticket prices should reflect the quality of football on offer, standards of facilities, local wages and should be used to help create a better match day experience for fans, i.e. lowering prices to get more people in should be considered an option even if it does lead to lower takings. Gouging people for everything you can get (not that I'm suggesting thats what Leicester are doing) isn't sustaianable and treats fans just another revenue stream as opposed to them being the lifeblood of a club (and while we all know we aren't clubs should at least try to pretend its the case).

I agree that it shouldn't be solely about profit BUT sadly football is a business now.

[onecapwonder]

I agree that it shouldn't be solely about profit BUT sadly football is a business now.

Yeah I know. Although in Germany they have managed to produce a competitive league, some top quality clubs and a brilliant national team all while doing their best to do good by the fans, or so it seems from everything I've read/heard about German football.

[Libertine Dream]

Business side for the club:

take an under 16 ticket: (average price £14)

21,000ish x £14 = £294,000

30,000 (higher attendance) x £5 = £150,000

This is probably why we will never see cheap tickets.

Take away 15/16000 ST holders

5000 x 14=70000

15000 x 5=75000

then add on them extras and the fact they are more likely to return then it should work out better. Adds to the atmosphere aswell. The problem is that the low prices won't guarantee high attendances so they won't take the risk whereas you're pretty much guaranteed 21000 most games. Derby manage to give away tickets and have better prices so why can't we manage it, the KP looks like an embarrassment most games, with big blocks empty

[Stevosevic]

The club needs the upfront guaranteed money from Season Ticket sales. And of course you can't have the standard match ticket cheaper than the average price on a season ticket for every game.

[burni]

I'm one of those fans that don't go often. For me the issue was working weekends and not living in Leicester but it's also money as well now. Always aim to go to 10 games but this seasons not been good for me only 5 I'm sure there's many like this as well. I often go to the discounted games as they are more affordable, hitting 22 in may isn't going to help matters either as tickets are going to be even more expensive next season (might just pretend i'm still 21).

On a different note I sometimes wonder why season ticket prices aren't slightly lowered, selling an extra 3K season tickets would make a huge difference to our attendance. Our average is 23k, 26k sounds a lot more impressive to me and would definitely create a better atmosphere as plastic chairs can't sing. The extra sales would make up for the price decrease I'm sure.

[m00nie]

Take away 15/16000 ST holders

5000 x 14=70000

15000 x 5=75000

then add on them extras and the fact they are more likely to return then it should work out better. Adds to the atmosphere aswell. The problem is that the low prices won't guarantee high attendances so they won't take the risk whereas you're pretty much guaranteed 21000 most games. Derby manage to give away tickets and have better prices so why can't we manage it, the KP looks like an embarrassment most games, with big blocks empty

how can you take away the 15,000 STH.. if prices are going to be reduced for tickets then STH will want cheaper also.

Also more people dont automatically mean more atmosphere.

[Libertine Dream]

how can you take away the 15,000 STH.. if prices are going to be reduced for tickets then STH will want cheaper also.

Also more people dont automatically mean more atmosphere.

I was just using Miltin Keynes fox's figures and saying what matchday revenue was without the ST holders who arent included in the takings for that match. Not all 21000 pay to get in, in theory ST's get in free having paid upfront. Im not saying they should be the prices as Season Ticket holders need to feel they get value for money. More people who repeatedly attend the football would more than likely create a better atmosphere, granted one offs dont help an atmosphere. Football is all about getting people to come back, something which is possible with cheaper prices.