jamesmilner Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 Agreed, I'm going to write a letter to the FL and ask them to play the WHU and Leeds games tomorrow, one after the other. Then we can close the LCFC section until next season. pointless comment like the thread !
Guest Col city fan Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 Ched Evans please. Someone with a bit of muscle, a cool finisher, knows where the goal is and MAY be available. I DO NOT want to start next season with a strike 'partnership' who have no idea what each other are doing. Pearsons signings in the summer will make or break him. The same as with Sven. He has to get them right or it's adios again I fear.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 I do agree with you but these clearly arn't good enough to play, with the exception of Vassell when he's on form (which is rarely nowadays) and Hopper when he grows up! He's been injured for the last 5 months!
Guest Col city fan Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 <p> Touché. No, this is a very important thread. Signing that key striker I believe, will be the make or break of Pearson. Look at the two sides going up this season. Southampton captured Lambert and have developed him into the leagues top scorer. Reading signed Roberts and LeFondre at EXACTLY the right time and their goals have taken Reading up. The striker situation at City is crucial to any future success we may have. To overlook it and dismiss it will be folly.
Bugg Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 Ched Evans please. Someone with a bit of muscle, a cool finisher, knows where the goal is and MAY be available. I DO NOT want to start next season with a strike 'partnership' who have no idea what each other are doing. Pearsons signings in the summer will make or break him. The same as with Sven. He has to get them right or it's adios again I fear. Yes, we should sign a player who may currently be going to prison in the summer. Unless he has been proved innocent, then forgive my ignorance.
crisp packet Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 we could sign messi , and he would fail.with our midfield as it stands we create fooooook all !!! Takes an eternity to get the ball in the box , forward or actual bodies in the box from midfield ,and if they do manage to make it in the box ,it takes ages to get back !!!!! None travel with the ball ,until we get mobile box to box midfielders we will nver get promoted . Midfield been the same for three ish years ,every other player in positions has changed ......... Is not called the'engine room ' for nothing ! we have some of the biggest 'cheats' in football
Happy Fox Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 Our strikers Beckford and Nugent have scored 14 goals and 16 goals respectively with a bit of guile and creativity from the centre of midfield, the wing areas and a target man we would have no problems scoring more goals.
ADK Posted 20 April 2012 Posted 20 April 2012 We need to sign 2 quality strikers in the summer. You need more than 2 to allow a rotation and Beckford has not been good enough anyway.
Jaspa Posted 20 April 2012 Posted 20 April 2012 Ched Evans please. Someone with a bit of muscle, a cool finisher, knows where the goal is and MAY be available. I DO NOT want to start next season with a strike 'partnership' who have no idea what each other are doing. Pearsons signings in the summer will make or break him. The same as with Sven. He has to get them right or it's adios again I fear. Yeahh Send the scouts down to watch Strangeways FC Get him on a pre-contract, and hope he can still walk when he comes out
stourbridgefox Posted 20 April 2012 Posted 20 April 2012 In case anyone doesn't know, Ched Evans has been sent down for 5 years. I think we need another quality striker but not because Beckford and Nugent are not good enough, but because they play in a similar way. If we play against a team which lets us play football in midfield this isn't a problem, as we can slot balls through to them as worked so well against Norwich and Southampton away. But...most teams do not try to beat us by playing football. They harry us on the ball, have everyone behind the ball and hit us on the break. Our weakness, or one of them, has been breaking these sides down. Nugent and Beckford are both quality players in my opinion but neither is good enough in the air to elbow central defenders out of the way and disrupt a defence. We only have Howard at the club who can do this, and as we all know, the truth is he used to be able to do this but can't anymore. So...we need a good quality target man to play alongside either Nugent or Beckford when we are breaking sides down and we can play Nugent and Beckford together against better quality opposition when more football is likely to be played. I also think it is a mistake to consider Schlupp or Hopper as the answer as they are both youngsters. Maybe they will go on to be great players or maybe they won't but it will help neither them or us if we pile pressure on them by expecting them to be the answer to all our prayers up front. They are better off playing bit parts to our main strikers until they are good and ready to take over themselves.
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 20 April 2012 Posted 20 April 2012 In case anyone doesn't know, Ched Evans has been sent down for 5 years. I think we need another quality striker but not because Beckford and Nugent are not good enough, but because they play in a similar way. If we play against a team which lets us play football in midfield this isn't a problem, as we can slot balls through to them as worked so well against Norwich and Southampton away. But...most teams do not try to beat us by playing football. They harry us on the ball, have everyone behind the ball and hit us on the break. Our weakness, or one of them, has been breaking these sides down. Nugent and Beckford are both quality players in my opinion but neither is good enough in the air to elbow central defenders out of the way and disrupt a defence. We only have Howard at the club who can do this, and as we all know, the truth is he used to be able to do this but can't anymore. So...we need a good quality target man to play alongside either Nugent or Beckford when we are breaking sides down and we can play Nugent and Beckford together against better quality opposition when more football is likely to be played. I also think it is a mistake to consider Schlupp or Hopper as the answer as they are both youngsters. Maybe they will go on to be great players or maybe they won't but it will help neither them or us if we pile pressure on them by expecting them to be the answer to all our prayers up front. They are better off playing bit parts to our main strikers until they are good and ready to take over themselves. Wouldn't mind 3 strikers personally I would prefer to replace beckford his attitude is shit and we don't want that Kind of attitude in our squad next season, would like Vardy,Cox and either 1 of chris wood or that lad Perbey ( think that's his name? )
Happy Fox Posted 20 April 2012 Posted 20 April 2012 Beckford's attitude is shit? Such a sweeping statement no facts or attitude to back this up.
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 20 April 2012 Posted 20 April 2012 Beckford's attitude is shit? Such a sweeping statement no facts or attitude to back this up. Is not being bothered to go up for a free kick when we where down at pboro not bad attitude or the part where he wouldn't put his head on the line to save us a point at pboro which could of gave us a better chance of the play offs for me that means his attitude is shit!!
Dan Posted 20 April 2012 Posted 20 April 2012 I think Beckford's too cocky personally, constantly trying flicks which come off about 25% of the time when we really don't need it. His attitude, a bit too big-time for us.
ADK Posted 20 April 2012 Posted 20 April 2012 I don't think his attidute is bad, he just isnt as good as people thought he was.
Mack Posted 20 April 2012 Posted 20 April 2012 There is a fair sized portion of our fans that would prefer to see 11 inferior players who work their bollocks off compared to a side with a mixture of grafters and more subtle flair players. You'd have thought that by now these people would have figured out that sheer hard work and graft is not the only attribute required to be successful at this level. Comments like those about Yakubu and some about Beckford point to this.
Guest Col city fan Posted 20 April 2012 Posted 20 April 2012 Yeahh Send the scouts down to watch Strangeways FC Get him on a pre-contract, and hope he can still walk when he comes out Well when I posted the situation was somewhat different!
Guest parky0607 Posted 20 April 2012 Posted 20 April 2012 I am on the fence about beckford. He does work hard in games but doesnt produce a right lot. However I agree that we arent playing to his strengths, but NPs game isnt suited to beckfords style of football . what really gets my goat about beckford though is when were pressin for a goal and he ****s our attack up by trying a back heel or some other fancy move -he can do that in his back garden, not on the pitch. (unless his name is actually ronaldo)
Guest parky0607 Posted 20 April 2012 Posted 20 April 2012 There is a fair sized portion of our fans that would prefer to see 11 inferior players who work their bollocks off compared to a side with a mixture of grafters and more subtle flair players. You'd have thought that by now these people would have figured out that sheer hard work and graft is not the only attribute required to be successful at this level. Comments like those about Yakubu and some about Beckford point to this. I get your point and I dont disagree, but your first sentence does reflect the kind of team we had in the 09/10 season - which seemed to work
LCFC_FAN_1995 Posted 20 April 2012 Posted 20 April 2012 Strikers need the service from the midfield and they haven't had really any service this season. I do agree with you but these clearly arn't good enough to play, with the exception of Vassell when he's on form (which is rarely nowadays) and Hopper when he grows up! I think we have missed Vassell since he has been injured, the only real reason he got badly injured because West Ham players couldn't handle him so took him out, also took Dyer out of the game
Mack Posted 21 April 2012 Posted 21 April 2012 I get your point and I dont disagree, but your first sentence does reflect the kind of team we had in the 09/10 season - which seemed to work I think we had that just promoted togetherness and confidence that carried Norwich and now Southampton on their first season back in the Championship. We also had some underrated quality, it certainly wasn't just a team of grafters.
FoxinLeeds Posted 21 April 2012 Posted 21 April 2012 I think both Nugent and Beckford have quality but don't think they compliment each other too well. Plus they haven't scored too many goals between them - compare either to 28 goal Lambert at Saints in his first season at this level! Playing 4-4-2 I think we would benefit from a striker who would play in the box and occupy defenders. Nugent does a great job and is my player of the season but he does his best work outside the box on the left wing. With a target man playing with his back to goal we could build play from the back and become more entrenchend in the opponents half, rather than the everybody forward then everybody back system we have used this season where we have conceded too many goals from being out of position when caught on the break. I believe this type of striker would occupy centre halves more and create space for a strike partner or midfielders like King to get into goal scoring opportunities. We need to remember that it is not about keeping our best players who can all win matches individually several times a season, but harnessing talented footballers into building a functioning team unit that is consistent which we are a long way from this year.
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