Dan Posted 1 May 2012 Posted 1 May 2012 I would like to see you do better with **** all service. Now we've bid for Koren we may actually have someone to provide him with the service he needs. Me? Oh true, I'm the 20 goal a season man, the one who is the answer to all our goalscoring worries. Don't be ridiculous.
Guest ttfn Posted 1 May 2012 Posted 1 May 2012 He has scored 15 goals this seaon in total. 1 less than Nugent and everyone seems to be loving him... does 1 goal difference really make someone become a bad player? Or is it because most of Nugents goals have come in the league? Even that is an illogical reason to dislike someone... the fact that alot of his goals were scored in the FA cup.... The Beckford v Nugent goals thing is almost a red herring anyway. For the overwhelming majority of the season Nugent has contributed infinitely more to the team away from his goalscoring than Beckford has even looked like doing.
Dan Posted 1 May 2012 Posted 1 May 2012 How can you say things that are just completely and utterly untrue? Beckford's goals this season: 15 Yakubu's goals last season: 11 Sorry, League goals. Funny how arsey people get because I don't count cup games against sides like Swindon and Forest (who are the time were worse than anything in this league). It's still an embarrassment. Yakubu's a far better player. Beckford has got no desire to succeed with us, he's on stupid money and we're blaming lack of service, of which Nugent has still managed a shit load more. I'm no Gallagher fan but the stick that bloke gets compared to the way some of us rim Beckford is absolutely astounding.
Grewks Posted 1 May 2012 Posted 1 May 2012 Has beckford even scored from outside the box this season?? We need strikers who can school all types of goals, and nugent has been for more impressive with his goals compared to 'tap in' jermaine. All strikers worthy of playing in this league would have finished the league goals which beckford has scored...as for the 'quality' which people are seeing, what is it? - his poor touch - bad passing - inablility to dribble and take a man on. - cannot/refuses to jump Except pace, Nugent is better in every single way. lower league strikers have been the way to go over the past few seasons in this league (morison, holt, graham, le fondre, jackson), so lets get one, give Vardy a try. Keogh and Kightley are two famous lower league players who wolves took a gamble on, and i can remember watching them in their debut season sticking 5 (3 for keogh and 2 for kightly) past us. We need to take a gamble.
paddy Agyemang Posted 1 May 2012 Posted 1 May 2012 Great. Getting rid of a goalscorer once again Fryatt Yakubu Beckford Say no more. I cant wait until I hear the same shit of the JB haters next year, saying oooo wish we kept him
ScouseFox Posted 1 May 2012 Posted 1 May 2012 Yes, Yakubu is a better player. I'd much rather we signed Yakubu (although at the time he was getting as much, if not more completely unnecessary stick than Becks). But I don't understand why people keep saying this? Ronaldo is a better player but we're not going to sign him either.
Dan Posted 1 May 2012 Posted 1 May 2012 Yes, Yakubu is a better player. I'd much rather we signed Yakubu (although at the time he was getting as much, if not more completely unnecessary stick than Becks). But I don't understand why people keep saying this? Ronaldo is a better player but we're not going to sign him either. Because he was compared to Yakubu as another player who "did nothing but scored". Yakubu's goals tally was one that made up for his lack of work rate. Beckford's simply doesn't. My point is, he may have potential for us, but why gamble a huge chunk of wages on a player who's clearly got no interest in succeeding for us (that Leeds stuff must have some substance), who hasn't even produced the goods for us this year. He's got some quality but he's so limited it's untrue. I'll be glad to see the back of him, I've personally given him chance after chance and I was absolutely disgusted reading about that Leeds game. I'd ship this joker than get rid of Mills. We've simply got to move on from big-wage players who don't give two shits about success, it failed once and if we're not careful it'll fail us again.
Dan Posted 1 May 2012 Posted 1 May 2012 Great. Getting rid of a goalscorer once again Fryatt Yakubu Beckford Say no more. I cant wait until I hear the same shit of the JB haters next year, saying oooo wish we kept him Goalscorer? 9 in 34? I don't give a fvck what he did for Leeds and Everton. He's done shit for us. "Goalscorer" Your username is Agyemang.
Guest Posted 1 May 2012 Posted 1 May 2012 I find it very odd the way we treat our players here in Leicester. It took Beckford an absolute age to get going here at City but in the last third of the season he was becoming reliable for popping up with goals. We should keep him and build a team to give him the kind a chances from which he thrives.
Stevosevic Posted 1 May 2012 Posted 1 May 2012 A bit worried who he would be replaced with. Pearsons record of signing good strikers isn't the best. Let's hope he doesnt repeat a Jay Simpson type signing.
Dan Posted 1 May 2012 Posted 1 May 2012 A bit worried who he would be replaced with. Pearsons record of signing good strikers isn't the best. Let's hope he doesnt repeat a Jay Simpson type signing. Got to say his record with forward signings wasn't amazing, to be fair, thinking about it. Kermorgant, Waghorn (good signing when Pearson got him tbf), N'Guessan? Dickov, Delfouneso. That's a pretty abominal track record with forwards. Pretty much everywhere else though he's been top notch.
Ric Flair Posted 1 May 2012 Posted 1 May 2012 13 goals in the last half of the season and a much improved work rate and understanding with Nugent suggests he deserves another year with us. Why overhaul the whole squad yet again? There are parts of this team that will do well. I wish our fans as a collective could see past work rate as the driving factor of whether a player is any good or not. It's a myth anyway as Jermaine put just as much of a shift in as any City player from late Jan onwards. He was man of the match in at least half a dozen games too. Not just scoring goals, but creating others too. But some of our fans just cannot forgive him for the appalling start he had with us.
Dan Posted 1 May 2012 Posted 1 May 2012 13 goals in the last half of the season and a much improved work rate and understanding with Nugent suggests he deserves another year with us. Why overhaul the whole squad yet again? There are parts of this team that will do well. I wish our fans as a collective could see past work rate as the driving factor of whether a player is any good or not. It's a myth anyway as Jermaine put just as much of a shift in as any City player from late Jan onwards. He was man of the match in at least half a dozen games too. Not just scoring goals, but creating others too. But some of our fans just cannot forgive him for the appalling start he had with us. Probably the best argument for Beckford yet but I'm still not convinced. I can forgive a slow start, see Danns, Konchesky and St Ledger (although he's well over-rated), I simply cannot forgive this stuff that's happened with Leeds at the weekend. His hearts set in Leeds and it's as simple as that.
Ric Flair Posted 1 May 2012 Posted 1 May 2012 Probably the best argument for Beckford yet but I'm still not convinced. I can forgive a slow start, see Danns, Konchesky and St Ledger (although he's well over-rated), I simply cannot forgive this stuff that's happened with Leeds at the weekend. His hearts set in Leeds and it's as simple as that. Well you raise a good point there. If he does want to leave then I'd not stand in his way. There are some players worth refusing to sell, who'll knuckle down and still do the business but Beckford is temperamental and unless happy and confident is a shadow of the player he can be. However I'm not so sure the Leeds thing is as bad as it sounds, there's a lot of shit made up about Beckford.
NewburyFox Posted 1 May 2012 Posted 1 May 2012 13 goals in the last half of the season and a much improved work rate and understanding with Nugent suggests he deserves another year with us. Why overhaul the whole squad yet again? There are parts of this team that will do well. I wish our fans as a collective could see past work rate as the driving factor of whether a player is any good or not. It's a myth anyway as Jermaine put just as much of a shift in as any City player from late Jan onwards. He was man of the match in at least half a dozen games too. Not just scoring goals, but creating others too. But some of our fans just cannot forgive him for the appalling start he had with us. He has improved his work rate, but he still has barely any understanding with Nugent and the likelihood of developing one with him looks fairly slim. Replacing Beckford with another striker isn't overhauling the squad, it's an upgrade. It's not his work rate that bothers me, it's the fact that he has the worst first touch in the team, rarely gets anywhere near a header, pulls out of collisions when he thinks he'll get hurt (Posh the most notable) and doesn't score that many goals. He's scored in 7 league games for us this season. For a supposed goalscorer, that is shocking. He very rarely creates goals too, certainly not enough to forgive him for the lack of his goals. I've seen nothing from him to suggest he'll improve next season, and would be very surprised if he's still here. We could save money without sacrificing quality in my opinion, and a fair bit too.
Dan Posted 1 May 2012 Posted 1 May 2012 Well you raise a good point there. If he does want to leave then I'd not stand in his way. There are some players worth refusing to sell, who'll knuckle down and still do the business but Beckford is temperamental and unless happy and confident is a shadow of the player he can be. However I'm not so sure the Leeds thing is as bad as it sounds, there's a lot of shit made up about Beckford. I have no doubt a lot of it is exaggerated but we all saw it happen when they were away at us so it's believable. He doesn't get on with Pearson (I've heard), he prefers Leeds over us, and to top it all off, he's been underwhelming on the pitch. An expensive flop. If we give him another chance then so be it, Pearson will judge his character better than I will, but realistically, that won't happen.
Raw Dykes Posted 1 May 2012 Posted 1 May 2012 Going back to Fryatt vs. Beckford, Fryatt wins hands down. I'd much rather have Fryatt than Beckford right now. Fryatt scored more this season, he brings more to the team, he's clearly the easier player to work with - much less hassle trying to keep him happy and motivated, he's three years younger and he costs about half as much. Apart from pace and the all-important "name", what does Beckford have exactly? 2011-12 NPC goals Fryatt 16 Beckford 9 We could probably get two Fryatts for the price of Beckford. That's 32 goals for the price of 9. If a club actually makes an offer for Beckford, we should snap their hand off.
Izzy muzzit Posted 1 May 2012 Posted 1 May 2012 Fryatt only scored 6 in his first season with us! (fair enough signed in january) but Beckford has scored 15! Give the guy a chance!
Raw Dykes Posted 1 May 2012 Posted 1 May 2012 Fryatt only scored 6 in his first season with us! (fair enough signed in january) but Beckford has scored 15! Fryatt was 19 then, and scored 6 goals in just half a season for a second tier club. At that rate, he would have got 12 if he'd been here all of that season, which is more than Beckford got this season, aged 28, when he should be in his prime! When Beckford was 19, he was playing for Wealdstone (who?) in Isthmian Division 1 (8th tier) part-time and fitting windscreens! Give the guy a chance! He's had a whole season! Granted, he has improved a lot since Pearson returned, but it's still not good enough, especially when you consider his wages. He'd much prefer it if he was at Leeds, clearly, and so would I.
MPH Posted 2 May 2012 Posted 2 May 2012 The Beckford v Nugent goals thing is almost a red herring anyway. For the overwhelming majority of the season Nugent has contributed infinitely more to the team away from his goalscoring than Beckford has even looked like doing. Yeah.... that was the problem with Yakubu too... all he did was score goals....
MPH Posted 2 May 2012 Posted 2 May 2012 Fryatt was 19 then, and scored 6 goals in just half a season for a second tier club. At that rate, he would have got 12 if he'd been here all of that season, which is more than Beckford got this season, aged 28, when he should be in his prime! When Beckford was 19, he was playing for Wealdstone (who?) in Isthmian Division 1 (8th tier) part-time and fitting windscreens! He's had a whole season! Granted, he has improved a lot since Pearson returned, but it's still not good enough, especially when you consider his wages. He'd much prefer it if he was at Leeds, clearly, and so would I. oh for goodness sake dont people read the full statistics. Beckford got 15 goals this season....
MPH Posted 2 May 2012 Posted 2 May 2012 Going back to Fryatt vs. Beckford, Fryatt wins hands down. I'd much rather have Fryatt than Beckford right now. Fryatt scored more this season, he brings more to the team, he's clearly the easier player to work with - much less hassle trying to keep him happy and motivated, he's three years younger and he costs about half as much. Apart from pace and the all-important "name", what does Beckford have exactly? 2011-12 NPC goals Fryatt 16 Beckford 9 We could probably get two Fryatts for the price of Beckford. That's 32 goals for the price of 9. If a club actually makes an offer for Beckford, we should snap their hand off. you talk out of your arse. you really do. Why do people not count cup goals? are they not important?
norfolk-fox Posted 2 May 2012 Posted 2 May 2012 Maybe cause the goals he scored against forest, Swindon, Chelsea didn't get us up the league concerning points total. It's like saying he can bang one goal all season in league and we finish mid table or lower but if bags 10 in cup competitions but don't even reach semi finals that's k?
Bert Posted 2 May 2012 Posted 2 May 2012 Goalscorer? 9 in 34? I don't give a fvck what he did for Leeds and Everton. He's done shit for us. "Goalscorer" Your username is Agyemang. He's scored 15 goals for feck sake. I don't care whether you don't count them because they were against Swindon or Forest. Are you not counting his one against Chelsea? Or Nuge v Norwich? Jesus Christ, there's some morons about. Maybe Beckford might do better if there wasn't so many twats on his back all the time. What's Fryatt's Prem record like?
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