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Ken Bates "offered Beckford twice this season"

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his stats appearences and goals:

league FA cup 33(6) 9 4(1) 6

13 goals in 2012

nugents appearences and goals:

league FA cup 41(1) 15 5(0) 1

8 goals in 2012

9 in 34.

Absolutely mediocre. Fact.

umm lol. which facts are you reading?

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umm lol. which facts are you reading?

Fact that's he's scored 9 in 33+6 appearances... just 1 more than the highly criticised Gallagher who scored 8 in 18+10

Not a great return for the £3.5m he's cost us so far

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I would like to see you do better with **** all service. Now we've bid for Koren we may actually have someone to provide him with the service he needs.

That's not totally true. There has been games when Beckford has barely seen the ball, but on other occasions he's struggled to control the ball and missed an opportunity to get a shot away.

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oh look we are replacing him with Matty Fryatt :rolleyes:

Fryatt is just as good as Beckford, Beckford may have a greater reputation because he played for 'Massive' Leeds instead of us and because he turns it on when it comes to the big games, but that doesn't make him any better than Fryatt. Not only does Fryatt contribute slightly more to the team, but he scores a similar number of goals as Beckford does, certainly he's done a lot more than Beckford in recent times to prove himself at this level. So when you consider how much more we'd have to pay Beckford, Fryatt really isn't a bad option.

I'd be happy for Jermaine to go, but I don't think giving him to Colin/Leeds is a very good idea.

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I would like to see you do better with **** all service. Now we've bid for Koren we may actually have someone to provide him with the service he needs.

firstly the ball comes to him, he loses possession, secondly he gets plenty of chances which he just doesn't tuck away

He's had 31 shots on target, 32 off target and hit the woodwork twice, that's 65 shots... of which he's scored 9.... He scores 1 goal in 7.2 chances

compare that to everyone's hate figure/pantomime villain Gally

19 shots on target 14 off target & hit woodwork 4 times, that's 36 shots of which he's scored 8... that's 1 goal in 4.5 chances

The thing Beckford has in his favour is that he's vastly improved under Pearson, with a much better second half of the season, although there's still far, far too many non-performances for many people's liking & his constant ability to lose possession, usually when the midfielders are getting in attacking positions means his loss of possession can invite costly attacks against us.

Fryatt is just as good as Beckford, Beckford may have a greater reputation because he played for 'Massive' Leeds instead of us and because he turns it on when it comes to the big games, but that doesn't make him any better than Fryatt. Not only does Fryatt contribute slightly more to the team, but he scores a similar number of goals as Beckford does, certainly he's done a lot more than Beckford in recent times to prove himself at this level. So when you consider how much more we'd have to pay Beckford, Fryatt really isn't a bad option.

Some people think players have to have a name, so despite players of lesser names actually doing more week-in & week-out they're not interested in them & would sooner cheer on the under-achieving 'name'

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firstly the ball comes to him, he loses possession, secondly he gets plenty of chances which he just doesn't tuck away

He's had 31 shots on target, 32 off target and hit the woodwork twice, that's 65 shots... of which he's scored 9.... He scores 1 goal in 7.2 chances

compare that to everyone's hate figure/pantomime villain Gally

19 shots on target 14 off target & hit woodwork 4 times, that's 36 shots of which he's scored 8... that's 1 goal in 4.5 chances

The thing Beckford has in his favour is that he's vastly improved under Pearson, with a much better second half of the season, although there's still far, far too many non-performances for many people's liking & his constant ability to lose possession, usually when the midfielders are getting in attacking positions means his loss of possession can invite costly attacks against us.

Some people think players have to have a name, so despite players of lesser names actually doing more week-in & week-out they're not interested in them & would sooner cheer on the under-achieving 'name'

It has got nothing to do with players being of a lesser name, Fryatt was such a limited player for us and he is history why would we want him back is he any better than Waghorn, Nugent and Beckford the answer to that is simply no.

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It has got nothing to do with players being of a lesser name, Fryatt was such a limited player for us and he is history why would we want him back is he any better than Waghorn, Nugent and Beckford the answer to that is simply no.

He's better than Beckford, as for being a 'Limited Player' Jermaine has proven himself to be nothing but that so far. Fryatt does have some limitations, but he still scores more goals and adds more to a team than Beckford does.

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He's better than Beckford, as for being a 'Limited Player' Jermaine has proven himself to be nothing but that so far. Fryatt does have some limitations, but he still scores more goals and adds more to a team than Beckford does.

Bollocks is he better Beckford has scored more goals than he has in his first full season at this level and also has scored goals at prem level something Matty could dream of fufilling, Fryatt highest total at his level is 16 to date at this level in 7 seasons at this level!!, pretty dire imo.

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Bollocks is he better Beckford has scored more goals than he has in his first full season at this level and also has scored goals at prem level something Matty could dream of fufilling, Fryatt highest total at his level is 16 to date at this level in 7 seasons at this level!!, pretty dire imo.

But at the end of the day, this season Fryatt has got 16, Beckford has got 15....

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im not sure that fryatt played up front on his own as much as beckford but im sure beckford would get more goals if he had someone to play off like fryatt

also fryatt didnt score 9 goals in any of his first three seasons in the championship

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im not sure that fryatt played up front on his own as much as beckford but im sure beckford would get more goals if he had someone to play off like fryatt

also fryatt didnt score 9 goals in any of his first three seasons in the championship

Yes, but Fryatt wasn't in a top-half squad, we were awful all round, not to mention that he was a lot younger and less experienced than Beckford is.

During the seasons that both have been in the same division facing the same opposition recently...

League One - Beckford 27 League Goals - Fryatt 27 League Goals

Championship - Beckford 9 League Goals - Fryatt 16 League Goals

Not to mention the fact that Fryatt would be far cheaper in terms of wages and is at least a couple of years younger.

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Yakubu's scored more goals for us ever than Beckford has.

Beckford's had nearly a full-season. Yakubu had half of one.

If Beckford had a record like Yakubu's for us, I would understand why he gets so much praise. The fact is he has a lot of bad sides to his game as well as his lack of determination to succeed for us (it's so clear), the reality is his goals record is actually on the whole, nowhere near good enough. It's what I'd expect of a forward from the bottom 3.

How can you say things that are just completely and utterly untrue?

Beckford's goals this season: 15

Yakubu's goals last season: 11

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Okay lets get Matty Back Hallelujah he is f**king shit, if we are getting rid of Beckford for Fryatt I despair I really do.

I dont think you could have 2 strikers with the same chant at the club. It's the football equivalent of crossing the streams in Ghostbusters.

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How can you say things that are just completely and utterly untrue?

Beckford's goals this season: 15

Yakubu's goals last season: 11

I presume he meant league games, otherwise he's just daft.

He's got a point though, Yakubu had a much better record here than Beckford.

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Yes, but Fryatt wasn't in a top-half squad, we were awful all round, not to mention that he was a lot younger and less experienced than Beckford is.

During the seasons that both have been in the same division facing the same opposition recently...

League One - Beckford 27 League Goals - Fryatt 27 League Goals

Championship - Beckford 9 League Goals - Fryatt 16 League Goals

Not to mention the fact that Fryatt would be far cheaper in terms of wages and is at least a couple of years younger.

You can throw in the fact that Fryatt signed in January and was 19.

But otherwise, it's definitely a totally fair comparison. :rolleyes:

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You can throw in the fact that Fryatt signed in January and was 19.

But otherwise, it's definitely a totally fair comparison. :rolleyes:

But is it a fair comparison to get rid of Beckford after one f**king season when he has scored 15 goals and has looked the part this second half of the season since NP's return why not back him with NP midfield recruitment's he could get more chances..

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But is it a fair comparison to get rid of Beckford after one f**king season when he has scored 15 goals and has looked the part this second half of the season since NP's return why not back him with NP midfield recruitment's he could get more chances..

Because we can sign better than Beckford for less money.

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Because we can sign better than Beckford for less money.

Okay if you think so.. if the striker in question whoever we sign doesn't score more than 15 goals or Nugent's sixteen than you have won the argument sadly I think it isn't going to happen imo.

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Okay if you think so.. if the striker in question whoever we sign doesn't score more than 15 goals or Nugent's sixteen than you have won the argument sadly I think it isn't going to happen imo.

I don't care how many he scores in a cup we aren't going to win against sides like Swindon and Forest when they looked like they belonged in League One. If he gets more than 9 League Goals then I've won the arguement. :P

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What frustrates many people about beckford is his lack of ability on the ball. His first touch is poor, his passing is poor, he consistently runs into defenders when trying to run with the ball and he doesn't convert enough of his chances. I could forgive him his goal record if his approach play was better and he added something else to the team but a lot of our problems this season has been down to the ball not sticking upfront. If we had signed sharpe in January i believe beckford would of spent the rest of the season on the bench.

As for fryatt, he did miss chances and his lack of pace was his main downfall. He brought players into the game however and was comfortable with the ball at his feet. From what i've seen of both players in a Leicester shirt i would say we would of been better off keeping fryatt.

We need better upfront and someone is going to fall by the wayside. On the seasons form it has to be beckford.

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I honestly believe Beckford will show his quality this coming season. It's something of a cliché on foxestalk but give him a pre-season, and let him be in a stable starting XI then I think he'll get 20+ next season.

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If he is here i seriously hope he does. There are a number of players who have got to show a lot more than they have done so far. I don't get any pleasure in seeing any of our players struggling.

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Fact that's he's scored 9 in 33+6 appearances... just 1 more than the highly criticised Gallagher who scored 8 in 18+10

Not a great return for the £3.5m he's cost us so far

He has scored 15 goals this seaon in total. 1 less than Nugent and everyone seems to be loving him... does 1 goal difference really make someone become a bad player? Or is it because most of Nugents goals have come in the league? Even that is an illogical reason to dislike someone... the fact that alot of his goals were scored in the FA cup....

firstly the ball comes to him, he loses possession, secondly he gets plenty of chances which he just doesn't tuck away

If i had £1 for every City striker i had seen that said about them. lol

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