Are your streetlights on?

[Leicester_Numan]

I don't see the need for four cameras on a post. We use the globe cameras.

We could probably use the globe cameras now as the crime rate has dropped massively and no-one can see which direction the camera is facing. I'd actually expect a couple of those cameras to be fake. But no-one knows that for sure and that's the point really. It's worked and that's the main thing. I just feel sorry for the people that are now having to put up with the problems we had

[Captain...]

I'd have thought they could use technology that switches them on when someone is near.

If the country wants to reduce it's energy consumption turning shop and office lights off at night would be a better option.

Yes, yes oh god yes.

That drives me up the wall, it is all to promote their crappy brand as much as possible, switch off all lights in an empty shop, or get fined.

As for street lights, not all street lights are on the street, how about switching off those that light up empty stretches of motorway at 4 in the morning. Or switching off half or 2 in 3, it is so wasteful.

(We could switch off all the traffic lights too, that would save energy )

[Guest]

We could probably use the globe cameras now as the crime rate has dropped massively and no-one can see which direction the camera is facing. I'd actually expect a couple of those cameras to be fake. But no-one knows that for sure and that's the point really. It's worked and that's the main thing. I just feel sorry for the people that are now having to put up with the problems we had

Is it the machmen?

[Leicester_Numan]

Yeah. They're Down in the Park Praying to the Aliens as usual

[Leicester_Numan]

Turning off shop and office lights is a good one. That is perfectly sensible and doesn't compromise anyone's safety. The motorway one has been suggested before with the use of technology to turn the lights on and off as you pass the sensors for the section. Again perfectly sensible but costly and would have to be seen as a long term saving

[Big Dave]

Stats generally show that turning street lights off has no adverse effect on crime, in fact crime often reduces where the lights are switched off. Burglers need the light to see what they are doing!

[Daggers]

Stats show that I sleep better without a neon glow permeating my bedroom.

[Leicester_Numan]

Stats generally show that turning street lights off has no adverse effect on crime, in fact crime often reduces where the lights are switched off. Burglers need the light to see what they are doing!

Have they never heard of a torch?

I've got some of those fag lighters with the blue bulbs in them. Plenty of light to see what you're doing but it wouldn't alert people.

I'd better stop or i'll give them ideas

Darkness is an advantage with violent crime though.

[Captain...]

Have they never heard of a torch?

I've got some of those fag lighters with the blue bulbs in them. Plenty of light to see what you're doing but it wouldn't alert people.

I'd better stop or i'll give them ideas

Darkness is an advantage with violent crime though.

When I think about it, it would be much harder to burgle someone's house if all the street lights were off, thinking about what happened to my parents recently, they came in through the garden, took some hedge loppers from the shed next door, and smashed the pane in the back door. With no street lights they would have probably ended up in the pond.

Anyway they came at around 6pm, so it was hardly pitch black, I don't what the stats are but it seems that quite a few home burgalries happen at dusk rather than middle of the night, too quiet, too suspicious and possibly too dark and inconvenient at that time. So this wouldn't make a difference.

[AoWW]

There aren't any streetlights where I live - and I can't say I've noticed a crime wave as a result. The most annoying thing about it is walking into parked cars on the way back from the pub.

[Guest]

There aren't any streetlights where I live - and I can't say I've noticed a crime wave as a result. The most annoying thing about it is walking into parked cars on the way back from the pub.

which has very little to do with no streetlights!!

[Fox92]

The most annoying thing about it is walking into parked cars on the way back from the pub.

I do that with the streetlights on

[Leicester_Numan]

When I think about it, it would be much harder to burgle someone's house if all the street lights were off, thinking about what happened to my parents recently, they came in through the garden, took some hedge loppers from the shed next door, and smashed the pane in the back door. With no street lights they would have probably ended up in the pond.

Anyway they came at around 6pm, so it was hardly pitch black, I don't what the stats are but it seems that quite a few home burgalries happen at dusk rather than middle of the night, too quiet, too suspicious and possibly too dark and inconvenient at that time. So this wouldn't make a difference.

Too suspicious? erm...Cant see them

Too dark? See my previous post

Burglary is not a violent crime the issue is a violent/street crime/public safety one not burglary which can be prevented with security measures.

Don't know why burglary suddenly came in to it

[Saxondale]

At first it was a nightmare, but I've got used to it.

[Rincewind]

A security camera is going to be installed where I live. Not been so bad the last few weeks but I still don't see why my neighbour has to go out and return every five minutes after midnight. I have been given a log sheet but can't sit by the window all nigh. My chair I use most is on the other side of the room. (cannot see streetlights when curtains are closed being on first floor.)

[Leicester_Numan]

If you live in a low crime area which has it's lights off and there's a high crime area near you with it's lights on, don't be surprised when your crime rate goes up. As I said in an earlier post, streetlights were invented for public safety which covers more than crime. Any savings made by turning out the lights will be lost and more in accident compensation claims. The dimming approach is the most sensible one

[Wycombe Fox]

Yes but there's no-one home.

[Leicester_Numan]

Why doesn't one of you actually come up with a good argument against dimming the lights instead of just turning them off. Not one of you has so far.

[Jaspa]

Yeah

Lets all argue constantly

I love Leicester City . . . . . .

[Leicester_Numan]

I love Leicester City . . . . . .

Can't argue with you there

[Northants Fox 3]

The light right outside my block of fats is out, and has been for months now, in addition to that we had a power cut about 3 weeks ago and as a result the timer on the passage lights are 6 hours i think (they come on at 3am and go out at midday ) so no lights outside and no lights in the passage, it's pretty dark

[Jaspa]

Can't argue with you there

Who you laughin at ?!

[Leicester_Numan]

The light right outside my block of fats is out, and has been for months now, in addition to that we had a power cut about 3 weeks ago and as a result the timer on the passage lights are 6 hours i think (they come on at 3am and go out at midday ) so no lights outside and no lights in the passage, it's pretty dark

We had a similar situation not so long ago. Our power cupboard used to be unlocked so we used to reset things ourselves. They put a new lock on it when they put the security doors in so the lights were all out even with the power back on. Nasty walking down the stairs, luckily I had my blue fag lighter torch. Worst part of it was the power to the tv aerials had to be reset and we couldn't get to it so no freeview or freesat. They didn't come out till the next night to reset everything

[Raj]

We've moved to Thurnby(NOT the Lodge!!!) and after about 2am all the lights go off in our close.

It was very spooky for the first few days(being townies and not used to dark)

Its a good idea in my opinion.

[Leicester_Numan]

We've moved to Thurnby(NOT the Lodge!!!) and after about 2am all the lights go off in our close.

It was very spooky for the first few days(being townies and not used to dark)

Its a good idea in my opinion.

Only if you're inside your house. Not a good idea if you're walking home. Still haven't heard a reasonable argument against the lights being in a dimmed state. Perfect compromise between saving money and safety. Anybody?