68 Years Ago

[The Year Of The Fox]

Today.

The liberation of Europe began.

At the going down of the sun, and in the mroning we will remember them

[Guest Bilo]

These men were real heroes.

Sad now that numbers of veterans are dwindling with time, it'll be a sad day when the last D-Day soldier is lost.

[The Year Of The Fox]

These men were real heroes.

Sad now that numbers of veterans are dwindling with time, it'll be a sad day when the last D-Day soldier is lost.

Its saddening really. I'm quite interested in the Band of Brothers, and in reading Dick Winters' book, many died fairly recently, including himself last year. Bill Guarnere and Babe Heffron still going strong though.

Although we have 11th November, this one date is the main reason we live freedom

[Nick]

Today.

The liberation of Europe began.

At the going down of the sun, and in the mroning we will remember them

Let it go.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Let it go.

What?

[The Year Of The Fox]

I wonder whether you'd have posted the same thing had a different member started the thread and had put the same as me?

I suppose in your view, we're supposed to 'let this go' yet continue to apologise to every citizen who's country used to be in our Empire?

Were we that dominant in the past that you now feel the need to act the opposite, and play down any victory we've ever had? Despite this being a victory for mankind rather than one upmanship?

I'm just glad the boys 68 years ago decided not to 'let it go'

[The Year Of The Fox]

Well **** me, if that's the overall feeling about dates like today then I really am embarassed to breathe the same air as some of you.

One thing that always bothers me is wondering whether the vets looking at society today believe whether it was worth doing what they did. Judging by Nicks answer and the current +1 his post has gained, I'd say I bet they wished they'd not bothered.

For all your accusations of me in the past saying I'm racist may I say that I for once am genuinely embarassed to have people like you classing yourself as a City fan British

Go and support Leeds. Their fans showed as much empathy as you during the last post last season. You'll be welcome there

[Asha]

I think it's great how at the KP on the Remembrance fixture the veterans walk around the ground so everyone can show their appreciation, but it's really sad to see the group become smaller and smaller every year. That's life though, I guess.

Interesting thoughts though; will days like these have any real significance in 200 years time? If not, when would be a sensible point for people to stop 'remembering'?

[I am Rod Hull]

I think most people think it was just the Yanks, I know the Yanks do

You`ll always get 1 or 2 holier-than-thou clever dicks piping up, I wouldn`t let it bother you.

[The Year Of The Fox]

I think most people think it was just the Yanks, I know the Yanks do

You`ll always get 1 or 2 holier-than-thou clever dicks piping up, I wouldn`t let it bother you.

I know, its just attention seeking. But surely attention seek about something thats at least half jokable about

[MikeyT]

Today.

The liberation of Europe began.

At the going down of the sun, and in the mroning we will remember them

I posted a similar thing on my Facebook first thing this morning. I'm with you and good for you for posting it. We should be proud of every man that served to help win the war, of all nationalities.

[Dr The Singh]

Also to note, during this week, 28 years ago Operation Bluestar occured, followed by Operation Woodrose, where the Sikhs in Punjab suffered Genocide from the Indian Government. During this period hundreds of thousands of Sikhs were killed, mamed, raped and imprisoned. Great Soldiers like those that fought for freedom and justice, fought against tyranny and killed the evil bitch Indira Gandhu.

Unfortunately the Sikhs have yet to taste liberation.

Praise to all martyrs!!

[The Year Of The Fox]

Also to note, during this week, 28 years ago Operation Bluestar occured, followed by Operation Woodrose, where the Sikhs in Punjab suffered Genocide from the Indian Government. During this period hundreds of thousands of Sikhs were killed, mamed, raped and imprisoned. Great Soldiers like those that fought for freedom and justice, fought against tyranny and killed the evil bitch Indira Gandhu.

Unfortunately the Sikhs have yet to taste liberation.

Praise to all martyrs!!

I'd steal Nick's quote here (sarcastically), but he'd come back online immediately and brand me racist

[Daggers]

Well **** me, if that's the overall feeling about dates like today then I really am embarassed to breathe the same air as some of you.

One thing that always bothers me is wondering whether the vets looking at society today believe whether it was worth doing what they did. Judging by Nicks answer and the current +1 his post has gained, I'd say I bet they wished they'd not bothered.

For all your accusations of me in the past saying I'm racist may I say that I for once am genuinely embarassed to have people like you classing yourself as a City fan British

Go and support Leeds. Their fans showed as much empathy as you during the last post last season. You'll be welcome there

Are you currently going through puberty?

[Dr The Singh]

What quote would that be!! I'm not hijacking, you talk about liberation which touches on martyrs, the timeline is something similar, hence I thought it apropriate. Either way the meaning is the same, sometimes freedom has to be faught for, and respect to those that gave there life for others.

EDIT: I just read Nicks quote, unfortunatley those perpotraitors of the henious crime are still alive, still in power, so unfortunately to 'let it go'

[Voll Blau]

I will hopefully never have to come anywhere near close to the terror those men (well, a large portion of them were really just boys) had to endure and they will get my continued respect - even after the last one has gone.

That said, they fought for the freedom for people who don't wish to commemorate this day each year to be able to do so too. So lcfcstu should probably stop getting so wound up by people who don't mark the day themselves.

[Dr The Singh]

Well **** me, if that's the overall feeling about dates like today then I really am embarassed to breathe the same air as some of you.

One thing that always bothers me is wondering whether the vets looking at society today believe whether it was worth doing what they did. Judging by Nicks answer and the current +1 his post has gained, I'd say I bet they wished they'd not bothered.

For all your accusations of me in the past saying I'm racist may I say that I for once am genuinely embarassed to have people like you classing yourself as a City fan British

Go and support Leeds. Their fans showed as much empathy as you during the last post last season. You'll be welcome there

Are, you embarassed by me being classed as British??????

[MrCrowley]

Today.

The liberation of Europe began.

At the going down of the sun, and in the mroning we will remember them

Well posted mate they should never be forgotten

[Captain...]

I think it's great how at the KP on the Remembrance fixture the veterans walk around the ground so everyone can show their appreciation, but it's really sad to see the group become smaller and smaller every year. That's life though, I guess.

Interesting thoughts though; will days like these have any real significance in 200 years time? If not, when would be a sensible point for people to stop 'remembering'?

It is strange how some events last longer in the memory than others, this day was very significant in the war, but there were many many other events, such as the Dunkirk evacuation, and the bombing of pearl harbour, the battle of Britain, that were just as significant, maybe D-day stands out because of what d-day actually means.

People will remember an event until the purpose becomes forgotten, we will always remember first and second world wars while we are a free and British nation, until that is taken away, or a greater threat to our liberty is seen off, we will always look back at the World wars with fear of what could have been and awe and admiration of those who stood up to tyranny and fought for freedom and our futures.

[stez]

Are, you embarassed by me being classed as British??????

I assumed that that post was aimed at nick. I could be wrong, mind, i'm new round these parts. as for the d-day stuff; played lads. as for the sikh's stuff; fight the good fight lads. same for all the oppressed.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Are, you embarassed by me being classed as British??????

No! You've never called me racist and the comment was never directed at you

[The Year Of The Fox]

I will hopefully never have to come anywhere near close to the terror those men (well, a large portion of them were really just boys) had to endure and they will get my continued respect - even after the last one has gone.

That said, they fought for the freedom for people who don't wish to commemorate this day each year to be able to do so too. So lcfcstu should probably stop getting so wound up by people who don't mark the day themselves.

I didn't mark the day in any other way than putting it on Facebook and on here. I got wound up beacuse it was clearly Nick trolling. He likes to come across as sensible and mature on here so its pretty obvious his comment was more to antagonise me (which worked) rather than commenting about something he truly believes. I'd say its rather sad trying to antagonise someone over a subject like this.

[Nick]

War, military, war, war, isn't the army great, war.

I could start a new thread every day marking one battle, invasion, allied triumph or another but I'd prefer to move on as whilst people who fought against tyranny were heros, the episode itself as an event of human kind was a shameful period of butchery and loss which I'm less comfortable than you obsessing and glorifying.

As for your other comments, I'm not trolling, not lacking in compassion, sympathy, gratitude or even pride - 'just let it go' was directed at your bloody obsession.

And look at the result. You've gone and got yourself all twisted up arguing with errr, an imaginary dialogue which is actually yourself.

Glorify, celebrate and remember the day a war ended by all means....... But the day it started?

Is that not a tad unhealthy?

[brockmyster]

War, military, war, war, isn't the army great, war.

I could start a new thread every day marking one battle, invasion, allied triumph or another but I'd prefer to move on as whilst people who fought against tyranny were heros, the episode itself as an event of human kind was a shameful period of butchery and loss which I'm less comfortable than you obsessing and glorifying.

As for your other comments, I'm not trolling, not lacking in compassion, sympathy, gratitude or even pride - 'just let it go' was directed at your bloody obsession.

And look at the result. You've gone and got yourself all twisted up arguing with errr, an imaginary dialogue which is actually yourself.

Glorify, celebrate and remember the day a war ended by all means....... But the day it started?

Is that not a tad unhealthy?

What else where these people suppose to do, just lay down and surrender, this is a celebration of the start of the end of the war, where thousands lost there lives in the attempt to allow citizens of this country to keep there democratic freedoms and they deserve the praise and credit they get for having the bollocks to fight for their beliefs and not just give up.

[The Year Of The Fox]

War, military, war, war, isn't the army great, war.

I could start a new thread every day marking one battle, invasion, allied triumph or another but I'd prefer to move on as whilst people who fought against tyranny were heros, the episode itself as an event of human kind was a shameful period of butchery and loss which I'm less comfortable than you obsessing and glorifying.

As for your other comments, I'm not trolling, not lacking in compassion, sympathy, gratitude or even pride - 'just let it go' was directed at your bloody obsession.

And look at the result. You've gone and got yourself all twisted up arguing with errr, an imaginary dialogue which is actually yourself.

Glorify, celebrate and remember the day a war ended by all means....... But the day it started?

Is that not a tad unhealthy?

If having an enormous amount of gratitude and respect for the vets of D Day surmounts to obsession then yeh I'm obsessed.

The war did not start on D Day, I'm positive you know that. D Day marks the beginning of the end of the war in Europe.

Possibly the riskiest plan ever to suceeded which resulted in millions being freed from occupation. Theres nothing to be embarrassed about with that