Guest MattP Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 An answer no one will ever know, personal belief is it somehow happened by complete chance with something colliding with something a gazillion years ago but if the greatest brains in the world can't find a logical way into how it happened you won't find the answer on foxestalk. If anyone has got 5 minutes go through this website, it's hard to comprehend just what we are living it but this tries to explain it by moving from the smallest thing in existence to the biggest, incredible website. http://www.onemorelevel.com/game/scale_of_the_universe_2012
Nick Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 I wanna know! A Briefer History of Time - Stephen Hawking ISBN: 978-0-593-05697-4
leicsmac Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 Massive inflationary expansion, establishment of fundamental physical constants that then resulted in what we know as 'matter' forming. As to what started THAT off...I don't think we'll ever know.
MikeyT Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 An answer no one will ever know, personal belief is it somehow happened by complete chance with something colliding with something a gazillion years ago but if the greatest brains in the world can't find a logical way into how it happened you won't find the answer on foxestalk. If anyone has got 5 minutes go through this website, it's hard to comprehend just what we are living it but this tries to explain it by moving from the smallest thing in existence to the biggest, incredible website. http://www.onemorele...e_universe_2012 But then how did those things get there and so on and so on. It hurts my brain to think that hard.
leicsmac Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 But then how did those things get there and so on and so on. It hurts my brain to think that hard. Possibly remnants of another Universe that had contracted into an point. Possibly an offshoot from a much bigger Universe that we cannot sense. Possibly the ejaculate of *insert divine entity here*. Theories about this are a dime to the dozen and it's likely every single one of them is wrong. And, in all honesty...isn't the question itself irrelevant? In order to consider how the Universe came into being, we would have to consider what was there BEFORE it. Which is incomprehensible in itself given the idea of time (a human construct) only goes as far back as the Big Bang itself. So even the idea of "before" the Big Bang is absurd. There was no "before" - not that would be understandable to us, anyway. I mean, we can trace the origin of the Universe back to roughly 10^-41 seconds after the Big Bang (using particle accelerators to mimic the effect), and with the advance of technology we may be able to get even closer...but we'll never get beyond it.
Guest Bilo Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 Take an hour out of your day, make yourself a cuppa and enjoy your learning.
Haydos Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 There's come stuff I just can't comprehend and this is one of them. There has got to have been 'nothing' at some point. But at the same time there can't ever have been 'nothing'. My head hurts already.
MikeyT Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 There's come stuff I just can't comprehend and this is one of them. There has got to have been 'nothing' at some point. But at the same time there can't ever have been 'nothing'. My head hurts already. True and as you say, even that 'nothing' is something.
stripeyfox Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 You'd think that if you were responsible for creating everything at the same time, you'd be credited with a bit more than one line. The "in the beginning god created the heavens and the earth" glosses over it a bit!
Captain... Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 If you are talking about the current observable universe, then the most commonly held theory is the aforementioned big bang theory, but as others have said what caused it? The only real explanation is that there has always been something and there always will be, whether it is a system of universes expanding contracting, within a space outside of that or the earth is just an electron orbiting the Sun as a nucleus to make up one atom of a much larger body I don't know, but logic dictates that if the big bang theory is true then we are the inverse of another universe, either parallel or expired so there is more out there than just the observable universe. The problem we have as beings is that we are so determined by time that we cannot truly grasp the idea of infinity, because we are born grow shrink and die so must everything else.
leicsmac Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 There's come stuff I just can't comprehend and this is one of them. There has got to have been 'nothing' at some point. But at the same time there can't ever have been 'nothing'. My head hurts already. There's your mistake - you're using the idea time to attempt to understand this, when time only became viable when the Universe began. Before it, there was no time.
Guest MattP Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 If you are talking about the current observable universe, then the most commonly held theory is the aforementioned big bang theory, but as others have said what caused it? The only real explanation is that there has always been something and there always will be, whether it is a system of universes expanding contracting, within a space outside of that or the earth is just and electron orbiting the Sun as a nucleus to make up one atom of a much larger body I don't know, but logic dictates that if the big bang theory is true then we are the inverse of another universe, either parallel or expired so there is more out there than just the observable universe. The problem we have as beings is that we are so determined by time that we cannot truly grasp the idea of infinity, because we are born grow shrink and die so must everything else. Love that line.
leicsmac Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 If you are talking about the current observable universe, then the most commonly held theory is the aforementioned big bang theory, but as others have said what caused it? The only real explanation is that there has always been something and there always will be, whether it is a system of universes expanding contracting, within a space outside of that or the earth is just an electron orbiting the Sun as a nucleus to make up one atom of a much larger body I don't know, but logic dictates that if the big bang theory is true then we are the inverse of another universe, either parallel or expired so there is more out there than just the observable universe. The problem we have as beings is that we are so determined by time that we cannot truly grasp the idea of infinity, because we are born grow shrink and die so must everything else. Quoted for truth. He (and I ) know what we're talking about.
Jaspa Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 All life starts with a 'Big Bang' What I tend to think, is that everything is relative, you could have billions of universes living under your fingernails
Kyle_Le_Don Posted 8 June 2012 Author Posted 8 June 2012 An hour out my day! I've been wonderiong ever since I went on a prinmary school trip and the priest was answering questions, mine was how did the Earth start, obvious answer back (god) next question where did he come from etc etc. Chose to ignore me in the end. To be fair I don't think it was ever thought we could go on the moon, never say never. I guess we might find out when we die. Big Gamble though, might just wait for that one.
Guest Bilo Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 Nice poem, not sure about the rhyme scheme and meter though. No side of the debate, creationist, atheist or anybody else can claim to have all the answers. Fair to say I'm nailing my colours to the science mast though.
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