Private School

[MooseBreath]

I don't think there is a stigma I just think it's funny, if not at all surprising, in the context of some of the posts you've made on here about equal opportunities and such.

[Jon the Hat]

Except of course there is, and comparing food to education is moronic.

Firstly, it's gonna be pretty hard to ensure all children get the same quality food when there's divisions as simple as what the children will actually eat, but also budget correctly and you can afford decent quality food, it's generally available to all - your £20k or so a year schools are not something you can just do a bit of budgeting to afford.

Ah so now there is a difference between things which are a bit more expensive, and things which are a lot more expensive? So it is ok that I can feed my child from Waitrose, but not ok to send her to private school?

[Trav Le Bleu]

If money was no object I'd have them tutored at home with the finest facilties possible in our house.

[Captain...]

If money was no object I'd have them tutored at home with the finest facilties possible in our house.

Really, are you not worried about the lack of social interaction and the character building efforts of the school bully. You would also need to employ a dinner lady, they create a heavily tailored diet of bacteria and phlegm to ensure your children have a healthy and functioning immune system. What about the important life lessons of being perved on in the showers by the PE teacher and embarrassed about being the first or last to sprout any pubes.

No, I disagree they would miss out on so many soul destroying moments of growing up, they would probably turn out to be mal adjusted deviants with a fetish for bicycles.

[Daggers]

Doesn't bother me what others do with their kids.

Does bother me how Gove is destroying the state provision.

[Jace]

Eton is a public school, it can, in theory, be attended by anybody that can afford to, in reality it is full of neoptism and cronisim, but in theory it is open to the public but is privately funded and you have to pay to attend, private schools are different because they have an entrance exam, so only admit the best and the brightest and offer scholarships to those that can't afford to send their little genius. State funded are your normal schools.

Stupid rich kids go to public schools.

Smart rich kids and super smart poor kids go to private schools.

Everyone else goes to a state school.

In that case then I went to a state school See I turned out alright....

[Father Ted]

Eton is a public school, it can, in theory, be attended by anybody that can afford to, in reality it is full of neoptism and cronisim, but in theory it is open to the public but is privately funded and you have to pay to attend, private schools are different because they have an entrance exam, so only admit the best and the brightest and offer scholarships to those that can't afford to send their little genius. State funded are your normal schools.

Stupid rich kids go to public schools.

Smart rich kids and super smart poor kids go to private schools.

Everyone else goes to a state school.

You've hit the nail on the head.

I have just finished 6th form at a private school after being there for 7 years. My family is relatively poor, my dad is a carpenter and my mum works in a school, so I'm hardly 'filthy rich' but I tore the entrance exam apart and received a bursary, only having to pay 15% of the total fee. Do I or my parents regret it? No, not all.

IMO, the teaching is really not much better, but the attitude to learning and environment of the school is what makes private schools achieve better grades. Pupils there WANT to learn, they are motivated to learn and those that don't either leave or are asked to leave nicely. The links that you make are invaluable too.. out of my group of friends, we have 6 medics, 2 optometrists, 2 engineers, 4 economists, an architect and 3 Oxbridge students. These are my friends for life and I couldn't be happier when you consider that in an equally parallel situation it could be drug dealers, murderers, etc. Private schools nurture their pupils as well as possible to keep them on the straight and narrow. I couldn't thank my parents enough.

[Jon the Hat]

You've hit the nail on the head.

I have just finished 6th form at a private school after being there for 7 years. My family is relatively poor, my dad is a carpenter and my mum works in a school, so I'm hardly 'filthy rich' but I tore the entrance exam apart and received a bursary, only having to pay 15% of the total fee. Do I or my parents regret it? No, not all.

IMO, the teaching is really not much better, but the attitude to learning and environment of the school is what makes private schools achieve better grades. Pupils there WANT to learn, they are motivated to learn and those that don't either leave or are asked to leave nicely. The links that you make are invaluable too.. out of my group of friends, we have 6 medics, 2 optometrists, 2 engineers, 4 economists, an architect and 3 Oxbridge students. These are my friends for life and I couldn't be happier when you consider that in an equally parallel situation it could be drug dealers, murderers, etc. Private schools nurture their pupils as well as possible to keep them on the straight and narrow. I couldn't thank my parents enough.

Uh oh. You've done it now.

[Captain...]

You've hit the nail on the head.

I have just finished 6th form at a private school after being there for 7 years. My family is relatively poor, my dad is a carpenter and my mum works in a school, so I'm hardly 'filthy rich' but I tore the entrance exam apart and received a bursary, only having to pay 15% of the total fee. Do I or my parents regret it? No, not all.

IMO, the teaching is really not much better, but the attitude to learning and environment of the school is what makes private schools achieve better grades. Pupils there WANT to learn, they are motivated to learn and those that don't either leave or are asked to leave nicely. The links that you make are invaluable too.. out of my group of friends, we have 6 medics, 2 optometrists, 2 engineers, 4 economists, an architect and 3 Oxbridge students. These are my friends for life and I couldn't be happier when you consider that in an equally parallel situation it could be drug dealers, murderers, etc. Private schools nurture their pupils as well as possible to keep them on the straight and narrow. I couldn't thank my parents enough.

A mechanic as a friend would be more useful and drug dealers do come in handy now and then, but I see your point and admire your youthful optimism (friends for life ) I didn't really get the networking part of school, I just hung around with people I liked and played football.

You are right though about the difference in attitude and environment, when I left and went to the state college, I was surprised at just how many kids were there just to cause trouble and disrupt classes, it wasn't even like it was compulsory to continue studying at that age, but they would turn up late, do no work and just argue with the teacher. There is also the fact that by having all pupils with a high capacity and motivation for working the class can all learn at the same speed and nobody is held up by slow learners or left behind by going to fast.

[absolutelegend]

Simple - the idea that someone should be entitled to a "better" standard of education based on nothing more than their parent's ability to pay is, well, ****ing retarded

I think what you are missing is that parents abilty to pay is generally related to their increased levels hard work and sacrifice. I am not sure I would want to live in a society where these things weren't encouraged.

Why should everybody in society be entitled to the same "stuff", irrelivant of the level of effort that they put into getting it?

[Captain...]

I think what you are missing is that parents abilty to pay is generally related to their increased levels hard work and sacrifice. I am not sure I would want to live in a society where these things weren't encouraged.

Why should everybody in society be entitled to the same "stuff", irrelivant of the level of effort that they put into getting it?

The problem is there are too many in this world that don't work hard and yet have the money to afford the best of everything in life.

[Jon the Hat]

The problem is there are too many in this world that don't work hard and yet have the money to afford the best of everything in life.

It's funny how often you hear this, but I don't know anyone like that. Personally I think this perception is a consequence of this fascination the media have with celebrity. It gives a completely skewed view of how other people are living.

[Zingari]

The problem is there are too many in this world that don't work hard and yet have the money to afford the best of everything in life.

You'll never change that so it's best if you just accept it . Money doesn't necessarily buy the most important things in life anyway , such as love, respect , good health , happiness etc etc

OK it helps in a lot of ways , but I think we can spend too much time and effort on worrying about what someone else has got .

[Bellend Sebastian]

You'll never change that so it's best if you just accept it . Money doesn't necessarily buy the most important things in life anyway , such as love, respect , good health , happiness etc etc

OK it helps in a lot of ways , but I think we can spend too much time and effort on worrying about what someone else has got .

You can have the first two from me and you're getting the fourth anyway.

£20 each

[Guest MattP]

It's funny how often you hear this, but I don't know anyone like that. Personally I think this perception is a consequence of this fascination the media have with celebrity. It gives a completely skewed view of how other people are living.

Completely agree with that, no one I know with a good bank balance behind them has had it easy, most have worked their bollocks off for it.

[Captain...]

Completely agree with that, no one I know with a good bank balance behind them has had it easy, most have worked their bollocks off for it.

For sure they are the minority, but they tend to get more public exposure than those that work hard, just look at the talentless twats on celeb big brother.

[Zingari]

Completely agree with that, no one I know with a good bank balance behind them has had it easy, most have worked their bollocks off for it.

I didn't realise being a eunuch was such a well paid job .

[Jon the Hat]

In other news, The royals all went to good prviate schools and you don't see them heading off to Vegas and running about hotels butt naked with girls.... Oh. You do. I blame the army.

[Webbo]

I'd do it like a shot. Some of the schools my kids have been to were/are totally shit.

[21st Century Fox]

I didn't realise being a eunuch was such a well paid job .

You aren't called Zingari for nothing! Brilliant

[absolutelegend]

The problem is there are too many in this world that don't work hard and yet have the money to afford the best of everything in life.

nope, don't know any of them. maybe i should start reading heat magazine to get up to speed with the people you are referring to.

[davieG]

I think what you are missing is that parents abilty to pay is generally related to their increased levels hard work and sacrifice. I am not sure I would want to live in a society where these things weren't encouraged.

Why should everybody in society be entitled to the same "stuff", irrelivant of the level of effort that they put into getting it?

Working hard is just a small aspect of ability to pay, lots of people work really hard but earn a pittance because they weren't born with a natural intelligence or ability to learn a skill or gain a specialist knowledge to get them into a high paying job.

I've also come across plenty of people who managed to wangle themselves a high paying job through their ability to pass exams but they've been some of the laziest impractical arrogant people I've worked with.

[absolutelegend]

Working hard is just a small aspect of ability to pay, lots of people work really hard but earn a pittance because they weren't born with a natural intelligence or ability to learn a skill or gain a specialist knowledge to get them into a high paying job.

I've also come across plenty of people who managed to wangle themselves a high paying job through their ability to pass exams but they've been some of the laziest impractical arrogant people I've worked with.

Not sure what you're saying. People who get paid more don't work harder for it? Obviously there are always exceptions to everything. There will always be many reasons that people state why some people do better than others, but IMO generally hard work is what gets the rewards, and that is the message that I send to my children.

Everybody I know that is doing well financially has generally worked hard all their lives, whether at school, uni, career or whatever, and more often than not have also had to make many sacrifices along the way. I personally don't know anybody that has got something for nothing in their lives.

[1964FOX]

Not sure what you're saying. People who get paid more don't work harder for it? Obviously there are always exceptions to everything. There will always be many reasons that people state why some people do better than others, but IMO generally hard work is what gets the rewards, and that is the message that I send to my children.

Everybody I know that is doing well financially has generally worked hard all their lives, whether at school, uni, career or whatever, and more often than not have also had to make many sacrifices along the way. I personally don't know anybody that has got something for nothing in their lives.

I know plenty of people who are on decent money who don't work particularly hard and have got where they are through contacts and a silver spoon. They would not cope with hard work, hav an easy life but still moan like hel about how overworked they are.

[vandamman]

I think in the future even if I had just enough money to send my kids to private school I would, never mind being rich and sending them.

I don't see where the thinking of 'sending to state schools makes kids more rounded' private school kids actually seem a lot more mature and confident socially.

I have good memories of state education and 'turned out ok' but on the whole the teaching, facilities, extra curricular programmes were shite.