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Glad they went through now.

They'll need more than a fluke win and two horrific ref decisions to get through that.

And while you're laughing at them losing to a few giants there's no shame in them losing to, they'll be raking in millions to blow Rangers away with when they return to the SPL.

I get that you hate Celtic but I don't get how you find the nerve to giggle at them in Europe as if Rangers could ever, ever do any better.

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And while you're laughing at them losing to a few giants there's no shame in them losing to, they'll be raking in millions to blow Rangers away with when they return to the SPL.

I get that you hate Celtic but I don't get how you find the nerve to giggle at them in Europe as if Rangers could ever, ever do any better.

 

Good, will be all the more pleasurable when that SPL title finally arrives again.

 

Because that's what football fans do, they take some enjoyment from their rivals losing. If you don't understand that you are in the wrong sport.

 

 

Bit hypocritical to attack me for it to be honest, you never shy away from having a giggle when the England rugby team lose, yet they have won World Cup's and that's something your team will never achieve.

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Good, will be all the more pleasurable when that SPL title finally arrives again.

 

Because that's what football fans do, they take some enjoyment from their rivals losing. If you don't understand that you are in the wrong sport.

 

 

Bit hypocritical to attack me for it to be honest, you never shy away from having a giggle when the England rugby team lose, yet they have won World Cup's and that's something your team will never achieve.

 

Agreed. I take great pleasure on waiting Celtic lose, although they aint my rivals being a Leicester fan, I just have a genuine hatred for the club.

 

Funnily enough I had to endure Celtic v Rangers in the Celtic end a couple of seaons ago. Painful experience.

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People really need to stop pretending that what passes as banter between Old Firm fans is some sort of magic esoteric, sardonic humor.

You should know, can imagine your reaction when you had to listen to Celtic fans singing songs about 9-11 and giving Claudio Reyna aeroplane salutes.

No problem from me with that to describe Lennon. He's from Lurgan, he's been caught on camera making sectarian comments at other people. Lurgan Bigot.

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let's not moralise when Rangers sing disgusting songs about the death of Tommy Burns and Johnny Doyle.

 

Long time ago, don't get that anymore.

 

Anything related to that is banned now.

 

SING ON

The Sash

A song celebrating the Glorious Revolution of 1688. It celebrates successes of the Protestant Crown in Irish battles against forces of the deposed Catholic King James VII of Scotland and II of England and Ireland. The lyrics are not deemed offensive and the new legislation would not prevent the song being sung.

The Fields Of Athenry

A song which refers to rebellion against the “Famine and the Crownâ€. Yet it is a folk ballad lamenting the Irish famine of the 1840s and the harsh punishment – transportation – for petty food theft. The song should cause offence to no one and would not be proscribed under the new law. Despite its folk ballad credentials, the song was penned as late as the 1970s. It is regularly played over the PA at Celtic Park.

The Cry Is No Surrender

Another song that celebrates William and Mary’s accession to the throne of Scotland, England and Ireland. It commemorates the Siege of Derry in 1689 during the Williamite War in Ireland. Again, the lyrics are a positive celebration which would not be proscribed under any new legislation.

The Soldiers’ Song

Another inoffensive song which, despite being the national anthem of the Republic of Ireland, has also occasionally been used as one of the songs at Ireland rugby internationals. Although it contains a reference to “the despot,†few would disagree that the song is a celebration of positive Irish nationalism in the same way Flower Of Scotland celebrates national success.

BANNED SONGS

Billy Boys

This song originated in the 1920s and celebrates the “Brigton†(Bridgeton, Glasgow) Protestant gang led by Billy Fullerton who often clashed with Catholic gangs. Lyrics such as “Up to our knees in F****n blood†make it offensive. It is sung to the tune of Marching Through Georgia, penned to celebrate General William T Sherman’s victorious 1864 “March to the Sea†during the American Civil War.

Glasgow Celtic IRA

A chant which is offensive because of its terrorist reference. Celtic have said numerous times that there is no place for IRA references among the Celtic support.

The Famine Song

A chant which refers to the Irish Famine of the 1840s. Proscribed as not only sectarian but also racist since it contains the lyrics Why Don’t You Go Home?.

Gorgie Boys

A version of the Billy Boys again to the tune of Marching Through Georgia. Some versions have references to F****n blood, though others say “Hibee†blood in reference to Hearts’ rivals Hibs. Anyone singing the sectarian version is committing a criminal act.

Ibrox Disaster Song

Sung by a small minority of Celtic and Aberdeen fans. It is offensive for obvious reasons. As well as the exultation of death there is reference to “H**s†lying on stairs.

In Your Glasgow Slums

A minority of Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs fans sing about conditions and family relationships in Glasgow. Offensive to many Glaswegians.

Sheep Song

Some fans use this offensive dirge to taunt Aberdeen fans or fans from other clubs from outwith the Central Belt.

Super Killie

Some versions of this Kilmarnock fans’ song refer to “black b******sâ€. It is a jibe that Ayr United fans are unclean, and the fact Ayr play in black and white, rather than any racist motivations. However, the phrase on its own is offensive.

Deceased Players

Various versions of sick and offensive songs have done the rounds with yobs singing about the death of Celtic winger Johnny Doyle, Rangers legend Davie Cooper and Dunfermline’s Norrie McCathie. All of these men died suddenly and young. The offence should be obvious to all.

JURY'S OUT

The Boys Of The Old Brigade

The song is a pro-IRA anthem relating to the Irish War of Independence. Some Celtic fans claim it is not sectarian but the BBC refused to apologise for branding it as sectarian this year. The song has modern pro-IRA add-ons in some versions which would cause offence.

Follow Follow

The correct lyrics of this song should offend no one. But the corrupted version includes “F*** the Pope and the Vaticanâ€. Many Rangers fans resent its hijacking.

The Merry Ploughboy

This song includes references to joining the IRA and Ireland’s struggle for freedom. The IRA referred to are the early 20th century version and not the late 20th century terrorist group. It was banned on TV for many years in the Republic of Ireland because of a line changed by many to say “the land De Valera soldâ€, interpreted as a reference to Ulster.

Some corruptions include “We’re all off to Dublin in the Green – F*** the Queen†which would be deemed offensive, and changing the line “where the bayonets slash and the rifles crash†to “where the bayonets slash the Orange sashâ€.

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You should know, can imagine your reaction when you had to listen to Celtic fans singing songs about 9-11 and giving Claudio Reyna aeroplane salutes.

Yes, that was picked up by American soccer fans and it didn't go over too well among us.

No problem from me with that to describe Lennon. He's from Lurgan, he's been caught on camera making sectarian comments at other people. Lurgan Bigot.

How so? I've seen supposed video evidence of this that turns out to be nothing more than wishful thinking by Gers fans. Do you have any hard evidence that Lennon is indeed a bigot? (If you do, I'm sure you'd only be more than happy to share lol)
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Suppose not.

 

You can go to youtube and see him calling a Rangers player "an Orange bastard" - though he would be charged if that was in the street in Glasgow and have a sectarian conviction related against his name.

 

I believe people can use the N word in the heat of the moment and not be racist.

 

So he's capable of using racial/slurs but I realise I can't label him a bigot on that. He probably is, but no, I can't prove it.

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Not that it's much to do with football, but I can't believe that list missed out the lusty refrain of "Could you go a chicken supper, Bobby Sands?" to the tune of Aye aye yippee yippee aye.

 

:whistle:

 

 "In your Glasgow slums" does not directly refer to family members, is not banned (it is sung by most of the crowd at most "inter city" games in the top tier) and is sung for example by Glasgwegians to Edinburgh people as "In your Edinburgh slums", so it is banter not offence and doesn't really belong on the list.

 

Likewise, songs about Aberdeen fans and sheep are on a par with the same about Derby fans.  I'm pretty sure I heard Aberdeen fans the other week away to Partick Thistle singing "One nil to the sheep molesters" (to the tune of "you're going home in a f***N ambulance") so I don't think they are too offended, although with the Aberdeen accent, it's often hard to tell if they are singing a song or removing a gobstobber.

 

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Not that it's much to do with football, but I can't believe that list missed out the lusty refrain of "Could you go a chicken supper, Bobby Sands?" to the tune of Aye aye yippee yippee aye.

 

:whistle:

 

 "In your Glasgow slums" does not directly refer to family members, is not banned (it is sung by most of the crowd at most "inter city" games in the top tier) and is sung for example by Glasgwegians to Edinburgh people as "In your Edinburgh slums", so it is banter not offence and doesn't really belong on the list.

 

Likewise, songs about Aberdeen fans and sheep are on a par with the same about Derby fans.  I'm pretty sure I heard Aberdeen fans the other week away to Partick Thistle singing "One nil to the sheep molesters" (to the tune of "you're going home in a f***N ambulance") so I don't think they are too offended, although with the Aberdeen accent, it's often hard to tell if they are singing a song or removing a gobstobber.

 

:)

 

The sheeps songs are still sang and no one gives a fcuk, they were on the original list. That's the sort of people who were charge of what to outlaw.

 

Chicken Supper is more an England than Rangers chant, Bobby Sands gets his mention in Fathers Advice. :trumpet:

 

Banning sheep songs!! lol

Does that mean the black lawyer's association are going to sue the FAW if we keep singing "one nil to the sheepshaggers!?"

We're taking it back! lol

 

Peter Herbert will have you soon.

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The sheeps songs are still sang and no one gives a fcuk, they were on the original list. That's the sort of people who were charge of what to outlaw.

Chicken Supper is more an England than Rangers chant, Bobby Sands gets his mention in Fathers Advice. :trumpet:

Peter Herbert will have you soon.

No problem, half of Wales is stuck in the eighties so we're brilliant at racism. He'd have loads to do.

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