Police and Crime Commissioner Election - Poll

[acooling08]

I fully intended to vote but completely forgot about it on the day.

[Daggers]

I don't really get why you wouldn't vote.

Err...because there's not a "I think the entire concept is a pile of shit and all the candidates ought to go fvck themselves" option on the ballot paper?!

And because those people who did are just like Webbo and Moosetits - existing on a sub£30K income and relying on benefits while they vote in a total twat to a £65,000 job and rejoicing because a 'Tory' got the gig. Hating the 'lefties' but living off the allowances they got given by them.

So, thank you very much, I'll not vote. I'll piss on those who think they did something important.

[Captain...]

The Tory won

But that, whether intentional or not is a perfect example of why this whole system is completely flawed.

Whether or not you actually took an active interest in the elections your post basically suggests that irrelevant of the actual policies eschewed by the candidate, you don't care you are just happy that the candidate put forward by the party you support regardless of whether or not he was a good candidate or not.

From my point of view no election with less than 50% of the electorate voting should be valid. The majority of the minority is not a majority, by not voting I hoped they would realise that this is a role that nobody wants anybody to have, and even those that did believe it was a valid role didn't believe any of the candidates were suitable

[Daggers]

The Tory won

So stop sponging off the state.

[Nick]

Err...because there's not a "I think the entire concept is a pile of shit and all the candidates ought to go fvck themselves" option on the ballot paper?!

And because those people who did are just like Webbo and Moosetits - existing on a sub£30K income and relying on benefits while they vote in a total twat to a £65,000 job and rejoicing because a 'Tory' got the gig. Hating the 'lefties' but living off the allowances they got given by them.

So, thank you very much, I'll not vote. I'll piss on those who think they did something important.

[1964FOX]

And now the fun begins. Mr Loader will cut budgets savagely to please David, this will including outsourcing a lot of staff. Those staff will have to be paid less to make the savings and provide the private company with profit. Experienced people will leave and be replaced by less skilful people who don't join because they care about the service.

Remember soon when you dial the 999 operator when in trouble they will say

"operator, which service do you require? Fire, ambulance or G4S"

[Nick]

And now the fun begins. Mr Loader will cut budgets savagely to please David, this will including outsourcing a lot of staff. Those staff will have to be paid less to make the savings and provide the private company with profit. Experienced people will leave and be replaced by less skilful people who don't join because they care about the service.

Remember soon when you dial the 999 operator when in trouble they will say

"operator, which service do you require? Fire, ambulance or G4S"

[sphericalfox]

And now the fun begins. Mr Loader will cut budgets savagely to please David, this will including outsourcing a lot of staff. Those staff will have to be paid less to make the savings and provide the private company with profit. Experienced people will leave and be replaced by less skilful people who don't join because they care about the service.

Remember soon when you dial the 999 operator when in trouble they will say

"operator, which service do you require? Fire, ambulance or G4S"

this

[Webbo]

But that, whether intentional or not is a perfect example of why this whole system is completely flawed.

Whether or not you actually took an active interest in the elections your post basically suggests that irrelevant of the actual policies eschewed by the candidate, you don't care you are just happy that the candidate put forward by the party you support regardless of whether or not he was a good candidate or not.

From my point of view no election with less than 50% of the electorate voting should be valid. The majority of the minority is not a majority, by not voting I hoped they would realise that this is a role that nobody wants anybody to have, and even those that did believe it was a valid role didn't believe any of the candidates were suitable

But most council elections have a less than 50% turnout, so who should run the councils? Also the previous police committees were drawn from elected councillors who were elected on a less than 50% turnout.

[Jon the Hat]

Well in Surrey an independent ex Met Chief Super has won on a zero tolerance ticket. Sounds like a decent result, he should know what he is talking about. Then again the Tory candidate was a magistrate so she would have known plenty about crime as well. Generally I thought the candidates were pretty strong.

Didn't vote because I was in Istanbul at short notice.

[Reynard Bleu]

I thought about voting but I know so little about these people that I had no real idea what I was voting for. I suppose I could have tried harder to to find out but after consideration I couldnt be arsed. I don't think I am in a minority.

[Captain...]

Well in Surrey an independent ex Met Chief Super has won on a zero tolerance ticket. Sounds like a decent result, he should know what he is talking about. Then again the Tory candidate was a magistrate so she would have known plenty about crime as well. Generally I thought the candidates were pretty strong.

Didn't vote because I was in Istanbul at short notice.

Again this concerns me, if he is going to go in with a zero tolerance approach, and others are going to have a more liberal approach then there is going to be inconsistencies between areas on how crime is handled.

I think there should be a national approach to crime and if that is one of zero tolerance then it should be everywhere

[sphericalfox]

Again this concerns me, if he is going to go in with a zero tolerance approach, and others are going to have a more liberal approach then there is going to be inconsistencies between areas on how crime is handled.

I think there should be a national approach to crime and if that is one of zero tolerance then it should be everywhere

Surrey is a notoriously crime ridden county. Nothing but a zero tolerance approach will suffice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrey_Police

Surrey has the eighth lowest crime rate of the 43 force areas in England and Wales, with 59 crimes per 1,000 population. In the financial year 2010/11 there were 65,125 crimes recorded in Surrey, according to Home Office figures published in July 2011.^[18]

[acooling08]

And now the fun begins. Mr Loader will cut budgets savagely to please David, this will including outsourcing a lot of staff. Those staff will have to be paid less to make the savings and provide the private company with profit. Experienced people will leave and be replaced by less skilful people who don't join because they care about the service.

Remember soon when you dial the 999 operator when in trouble they will say

"operator, which service do you require? Fire, ambulance or G4S"

Why don't you just give the guy a chance you synical old fart.

Mr Loader clearly did a great job managing in the military, why could he not do so in the police?

As for outsourcing, it's a gamble, but anybody with half a brain who's how the public service can be at times. Overpaid, lazy and inneficient.

The police have been nothing but shambolic recently but still lefties leap to defend it at every oppurtunity. Having a police force is clearly needed, but it needs shaking up massively. Let's hope Clive can do it.

[sphericalfox]

Why don't you just give the guy a chance you synical old fart.

Mr Loader clearly did a great job managing in the military, why could he not do so in the police?

As for outsourcing, it's a gamble, but anybody with half a brain who's how the public service can be at times. Overpaid, lazy and inneficient.

The police have been nothing but shambolic recently but still lefties leap to defend it at every oppurtunity. Having a police force is clearly needed, but it needs shaking up massively. Let's hope Clive can do it.

Do all of your posts have to be imbecilic? Can't you base your opinions on even a modicum of fact for at least once in awhile? I know you only have half a brain and for this it does give your statement some credence, yet the rest is just nonsense.

[21st Century Fox]

At least we now get another money spinning inquiry into why this was such a failure.

[Jon the Hat]

Surrey is a notoriously crime ridden county. Nothing but a zero tolerance approach will suffice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrey_Police

We have a low rate of crime solved though, and our fair share of idiots.

[1964FOX]

Why don't you just give the guy a chance you synical old fart.

Mr Loader clearly did a great job managing in the military, why could he not do so in the police?

As for outsourcing, it's a gamble, but anybody with half a brain who's how the public service can be at times. Overpaid, lazy and inneficient.

The police have been nothing but shambolic recently but still lefties leap to defend it at every oppurtunity. Having a police force is clearly needed, but it needs shaking up massively. Let's hope Clive can do it.

I am not Synical and would love Mr Loader toprove me wrong but I fear he wont as he has already announced his favour of outsourcing before he has had chance to discover what is wha within t police fore.

You say he did a good job in th military, he brags about cutting 1000 jobs, I wonder how many of them were middle or high level management.

what evidence have you of police employees being overpaid and lazy, the vast majority of the several hundred I knware hard working and are abou protecting the public.

Our shambolic police force has recently saved 15 million pounds of th budget and continued to reduce crime dispite losing hundreds of officers and police staff to retirement and redundancy.

I base my argument on fact and assured knowledge and you seem to base yours on Sun newspaper cuttings and th bloke down the pub going from what you have stated.

Again say I hope I'm wrong but don't think I will be

[Saxondale]

And now the fun begins. Mr Loader will cut budgets savagely to please David, this will including outsourcing a lot of staff. Those staff will have to be paid less to make the savings and provide the private company with profit. Experienced people will leave and be replaced by less skilful people who don't join because they care about the service.

Remember soon when you dial the 999 operator when in trouble they will say

"operator, which service do you require? Fire, ambulance or G4S"

No they won't, they'll do the same for less money. It'll probably be the same people anyway.

[Jon the Hat]

I am not Synical and would love Mr Loader toprove me wrong but I fear he wont as he has already announced his favour of outsourcing before he has had chance to discover what is wha within t police fore.

You say he did a good job in th military, he brags about cutting 1000 jobs, I wonder how many of them were middle or high level management.

what evidence have you of police employees being overpaid and lazy, the vast majority of the several hundred I knware hard working and are abou protecting the public.

Our shambolic police force has recently saved 15 million pounds of th budget and continued to reduce crime dispite losing hundreds of officers and police staff to retirement and redundancy.

I base my argument on fact and assured knowledge and you seem to base yours on Sun newspaper cuttings and th bloke down the pub going from what you have stated.

Again say I hope I'm wrong but don't think I will be

No lazy Police then? Hmmm

[1964FOX]

No lazy Police then? Hmmm

Yes of course but they are an annoying minority even to their. colleagues.