40 Sikh lads defend themselves against Muslim sex predators?

[The Doctor]

Come on guys, let's not insult anyone's religion, unless it's of real relevance to the thread!!!!

So I guess that's a no on posting this then:

[Daggers]

Yes,

A Muslim family sold the house next door to me in Huddersfield to a white family. Our house was occupied by 4 white and one black all aethiest or Christian Students and owned by a Hindu. The area was around 70% Asian, I have no idea of the religious breakdowns though. Given it was Huddersfield I would guess most of them were Muslim as there is a much highier proportion of Muslims to Hindu/Silkhs in Yorkshire.

Happy?

Of course he's not happy - the muslims are coming to rape our daughters, slaughter our cows in funny ways, hold their private courts and kill off trade to his market stall. They marry their own kind, form ghettos and take over areas. Tony is scared. He is very scared. He's sounding out a clarion call to all who will listen while he's waiting to drown in rivers of blood.

[Daggers]

Come on guys, let's not insult anyone's religion, unless it's of real relevance to the thread!!!!

I'm happy to insult every religion that exists. I have the freedom of expression to point out that a belief in fairies is nonsense and anyone who wishes to believe in fairies is a liberty to take offence and sulk.

[FoxyPV]

You just killed Tinkerbell, you murdering bastard!!

(whispers) "I do believe in fairies""I do believe in fairies""I do believe in fairies""I do believe in fairies!"

[hejammy]

Ok some of the comments on this thread have astounded me, I thought we had some intelligent fans, however today I stand corrected, 'can Muslims sell their houses to other non Muslims' for f-sake! What kind of stupid shite is that! Apparently it's only Muslims that are - 'paedophiles, groomers, thieves, pickpockets, terrorists,... What else is there. I agree that it may be a cultural thing with Pakistan, but people there are Muslims that live outside of Pakistan, also there are other religions that live in Pakistan. This quickly becomes a religious thing rather than a cultural thing, phrases like islamists and Islamic terrorists Piss me off! There is absolutely nothing Islamic about terrorism. The whole episode of moghul durbar are simply vigilantes taking the law into their own hands. Yes this time it MAY have been a group of Muslim men' grooming' however again I will say that's a cultural thing and not an 'Islamic' thing. If the group were white would this group have attacked their local 'white pub'? Get a grip people

[hejammy]

If you tried to understand your history it was actually quite 'normal' for a man to marry a 9 year old, not just Muslim men but men from all different faiths

Didn't he marry her at 6 aswell

[The Doctor]

If you tried to understand your history it was actually quite 'normal' for a man to marry a 9 year old, not just Muslim men but men from all different faiths

Well, lets hope his ability to study history is better than your ability to read.

married at 6, consummated at 9 - while young marriages may have been commonplace, the consummation generally waited until the mid-teens.

[hejammy]

Actually the age of consumption was deemed appropriate when the girl went through puberty, therefore could be anywhere between 7 and 15 years old. You missed my point however, it wasn't just that one religion that did this, it was different faiths also

Well, lets hope his ability to study history is better than your ability to read.

married at 6, consummated at 9 - while young marriages may have been commonplace, the consummation generally waited until the mid-teens.

[Guest MattP]

Actually the age of consumption was deemed appropriate when the girl went through puberty, therefore could be anywhere between 7 and years old. You missed my point however, it wasn't just that one religion that did this, it was different faiths also

:blink: :blink: :unsure: :unsure:

[The Doctor]

Actually the age of consumption was deemed appropriate when the girl went through puberty, therefore could be anywhere between 7 and years old. You missed my point however, it wasn't just that one religion that did this, it was different faiths also

****ing children, always ageing backwards.

However, no - consummation (I hardly reckon they started off by consuming shit - not exactly conventional sex is it) tended to occur in the teens, not at 9.

[BoneDog]

I'm not sure if any of you read my post, but I did tell you that Aisha was 19 or 20 years old when she married Mohammad. She wasn't blinking 6, or blinking 9, for crying out loud. The people who started that crap probably belong to the same group who made that film the other month. Agenda driven psychos who've been at it for centuries.

I've been studying Islam for probably 11 years now and am not just making this age thing up. Used to own bags of books on the subject, and took a long time sorting the wheat from the chaff. Over the years I've also heard hundreds of hours of lectures by all kinds of decent, and not so decent, scholars.

So be told will yer She was 19 or 20. We know this because she had a sister who was 10 years older and we know the year of the older sisters death, and how old she was at the time of death. From this information, and other information, it is easy to work out the age of Aisha at the time of the partnership, which was 19 or 20, depending on which month she was born in.

No paedo.

[Vacamion]

Maybe it was Kurt Westergaard who started the whole Mohammed/paedo calumny.

After all, muslims all over the world would not want him killed just for doing some drawings, would they?

That would be madness...

[acooling08]

The Quran in Sura 65:1, 4 says:

65:1

O Prophet, when you [and the believers] divorce women, divorce them for their prescribed waiting—period and count the waiting—period accurately . . . 4 And if you are in doubt about those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, (you should know that) their waiting period is three months, and

the same applies to those who have not menstruated as yet.

As for pregnant women, their period ends when they have delivered their burden

View this website to see some other Islamic quotations on women. Delightful.

http://freethoughtnation.com/contributing-writers/63-acharya-s/574-what-does-the-koran-say-about-women.html

[BoneDog]

Maybe it was Kurt Westergaard who started the whole Mohammed/paedo calumny.

After all, muslims all over the world would not want him killed just for doing some drawings, would they?

That would be madness...

I know loads of Muslims and don't know one who wants that man killed. Have you asked any of them what they think about it?

I've heard of a few phoney scholars, imams, and a few dodgy extremist groups who have connections to government run security forces, stirring up people about it though. Some of these groups even design 'the followers' a load of outrageous placards to hold up.

Funny that.

[BoneDog]

The Quran in Sura 65:1, 4 says:

65:1

O Prophet, when you [and the believers] divorce women, divorce them for their prescribed waiting—period and count the waiting—period accurately . . . 4 And if you are in doubt about those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, (you should know that) their waiting period is three months, and

the same applies to those who have not menstruated as yet.

As for pregnant women, their period ends when they have delivered their burden

View this website to see some other Islamic quotations on women. Delightful.

http://freethoughtna...bout-women.html

I wondered how long it'd be before someone posted that verse. That verse means something totally different to what you are presuming and probably wanting it to mean.

Rubbish site you linked to (or at least the Islam part of the site is very poor). I notice they use the Dawood translation. The book is tough to translate at the best of times because Quranic Arabic has many words and phrases that don't have an English equivalent, but the Dawood translation is well known for being badly distorted. Wouldn't touch that translation with a barge pole, and I've read a few.

Edit : Thinking about it, Dawood was probably involved with that crazy agenda driven group of psychos I mentioned earlier. Maybe not, but it wouldn't come as a surprise.

[digitalalba]

If you tried to understand your history it was actually quite 'normal' for a man to marry a 9 year old, not just Muslim men but men from all different faiths

I know, not only that, shocking as it is, but what we call peadophillier and incest was frowned upon thousands of years ago

[acooling08]

I wondered how long it'd be before someone posted that verse. That verse means something totally different to what you are presuming and probably wanting it to mean.

Rubbish site you linked to (or at least the Islam part of the site is very poor). I notice they use the Dawood translation. The book is tough to translate at the best of times because Quranic Arabic has many words and phrases that don't have an English equivalent, but the Dawood translation is well known for being badly distorted. Wouldn't touch that translation with a barge pole, and I've read a few.

Edit : Thinking about it, Dawood was probably involved with that crazy agenda driven group of psychos I mentioned earlier. Maybe not, but it wouldn't come as a surprise.

Fair enough, ignore those quotations.

However you must admit that Islam is a sexist religion. Hey, most religions are, due to the fact they were invented in a time when women were treated as slaves and sex dolls.

I hate all religion, not just Islam btw. Sooner it's gone from the world the better.

[Rincewind]

There are a lot of passages in the Old Testament involving incest, murder, slavery homophobia, beating child killing and bigotry to name a few. The translations may be distorted but I don't care. They were from thousands of years ago when the human race knew little about the world or surroundings they lived in. Man's quest for knowledge has taken them from worshipping Gods in the sky to modern science as we know it. Unfortunately there are many in all religions that still believe the myths and legends of the past and brainwashing of generation after generation has embedded these beliefs into their genes.

[Daggers]

Apparently it's only Muslims that are - 'paedophiles, groomers, thieves, pickpockets, terrorists,... What else is there.

• Nigel Hesmondhalgh Jailed for 9 months for possession of child pornography.
  
• Darren Francis Jailed for four years and three months on two counts of sexual activity with a child and for assault.
  
• Ian Hindle Jailed for three years for having sex with a child.
  
• Andrew Wells Jailed for two years and three months after admitting engaging in sexual activity with a child and engaging in sexual activity in the presence of a child.
  
• Roderick Rowley 15 months after admitting 14 charges of making, distributing or possessing obscene images of children.
  

Clearly, being a right-wing Nazi thug is also a clear indicator to being a paedophile too.

[Vacamion]

I know loads of Muslims and don't know one who wants that man killed. Have you asked any of them what they think about it?

I've heard of a few phoney scholars, imams, and a few dodgy extremist groups who have connections to government run security forces, stirring up people about it though. Some of these groups even design 'the followers' a load of outrageous placards to hold up.

Funny that.

I don't think that the suspicion that the controversy is not mainstream and has been stirred up by security forces was of any great comfort to Mr Westergaard when he and his daughter were cowering in their specially built safe room whilst the Somali who had broken into him home tried to get at him...

Are you also suggesting the security forces whipped up the violent demonstrations and effigy burning that forced Salman Rushdie into hiding or that the security forces prompted attacks on US embassies last year after it became known that a shitty film insulted the prophet?

What evidence do you have for this?

There is an alternative explanation - that all kinds of murderous worldviews on issues such as blasphemy, homosexuality and suicide bombing are held by the mainstream majority (not isolated nutters) throughout the middle east. This alternative suggestion is supported by published evidence, such as the surveys that Sam Harris quotes in his books and on his websites.

I prefer the evidence to your suggestions of a conspiracy.

[sphericalfox]

• Nigel Hesmondhalgh Jailed for 9 months for possession of child pornography.
  
• Darren Francis Jailed for four years and three months on two counts of sexual activity with a child and for assault.
  
• Ian Hindle Jailed for three years for having sex with a child.
  
• Andrew Wells Jailed for two years and three months after admitting engaging in sexual activity with a child and engaging in sexual activity in the presence of a child.
  
• Roderick Rowley 15 months after admitting 14 charges of making, distributing or possessing obscene images of children.
  

Clearly, being a right-wing Nazi thug is also a clear indicator to being a paedophile too.

yeah but do they have a gang?

[Daggers]

yeah but do they have a gang?

Fvck yea!

[Rincewind]

Wrong question Daggers?

[Daggers]

Wrong question Daggers?

[sphericalfox]

Fvck yea!

those bastards think of everything!