Webbo Posted 22 January 2013 Posted 22 January 2013 Strange, but I've still not got an answer to the question. Irrespective of whether ethnic movement to one area is natural or not, the question asked was whether Muslims are allowed to sell their houses to non-Muslims? Furthermore, does anyone know a Muslim family that has? Would a non-muslim want to move into a muslim area? Probably not, it's just the way these areas have evolved.
Thracian Posted 22 January 2013 Posted 22 January 2013 Would a non-muslim want to move into a muslim area? Probably not, it's just the way these areas have evolved. Whether non-Muslims in general would wish to move to a Muslim area or not is not the question, Webbo. The question is, would it be "permissible" for Muslims to sell to another faith? I'd have thought the answer would be as easy as "yes" or "no". So why, I wonder, does the answer remain so unclear and not even get a reference on the internet? Can Christians sell property to Muslims? Of course. Can Christians buy houses from Muslim families? I've no idea.
BoneDog Posted 22 January 2013 Posted 22 January 2013 Strange, but I've still not got an answer to the question. Irrespective of whether ethnic movement to one area is natural or not, the question asked was whether Muslims are allowed to sell their houses to non-Muslims? Furthermore, does anyone know a Muslim family that has? Yes, I know of a few muslims who have sold their house to white English non-muslims in Burton-on-Trent.
Vacamion Posted 22 January 2013 Posted 22 January 2013 Strange, but I've still not got an answer to the question. Irrespective of whether ethnic movement to one area is natural or not, the question asked was whether Muslims are allowed to sell their houses to non-Muslims? Furthermore, does anyone know a Muslim family that has? I found your initial post in this thread to be really ill-judged. It was as if you are suggesting that every semi detached house in Leicester, once added to the Caliphate, must be defended in the name of Islam. I mean, seriously? If there IS a clash of civilisations, I don't think the "Muslamic Hoardes" have opened a second front at William H Brown. I can confirm that in my line of work I have dealt with numerous cases of muslims having sold property to non-muslims. If there is something in the Koran or Hadith about conveyancing, all those people in the instances I have dealt with must have been breaking the rules. This thread depresses the hell out of me.
Dr The Singh Posted 22 January 2013 Posted 22 January 2013 I found your initial post in this thread to be really ill-judged. It was as if you are suggesting that every semi detached house in Leicester, once added to the Caliphate, must be defended in the name of Islam. I mean, seriously? If there IS a clash of civilisations, I don't think the "Muslamic Hoardes" have opened a second front at William H Brown. I can confirm that in my line of work I have dealt with numerous cases of muslims having sold property to non-muslims. If there is something in the Koran or Hadith about conveyancing, all those people in the instances I have dealt with must have been breaking the rules. This thread depresses the hell out of me.
Rincewind Posted 22 January 2013 Posted 22 January 2013 I would think but not certain that Muslim house owners would go to an Estate Agent that may be Muslim. I cannot see many English people going to a Muslim Estate agent. There are specialised Islamic banks so I imagine other businesses are the same. In some areas of Islam it is not allowed to make a profit hence Islamic banks. I don't know exactly how they operate though. There is one on London Road near me. Of course having looked at new posts I admit I could be completely wrong.
BoneDog Posted 22 January 2013 Posted 22 January 2013 In some areas of Islam it is not allowed to make a profit hence Islamic banks. I don't know exactly how they operate though. There is one on London Road near me. The muslim law about banks is that they are not allowed to charge interest. Not sure if they follow that rule though.
acooling08 Posted 22 January 2013 Posted 22 January 2013 Hahahahahahhahahaha Can imagine 40 turbanators marching slow-mo down East Park Road to the Resevoir Dogs music!
I am Rod Hull Posted 22 January 2013 Posted 22 January 2013 Yes, I know of a few muslims who have sold their house to white English non-muslims in Burton-on-Trent. I`m from the other side of the river, and looking back I guess that Burtonians v Swaddies in the 80`s is a modern day Sikhs v Muslims. We didnt need 40 though, it was nearer 10 and we danced on their pool tables singing "come on Burton, come on Burton, SWAD, SWAD, SWAD SWAD! Hate them Burton cvnts with a passion....
sphericalfox Posted 22 January 2013 Posted 22 January 2013 I`m from the other side of the river, and looking back I guess that Burtonians v Swaddies in the 80`s is a modern day Sikhs v Muslims. We didnt need 40 though, it was nearer 10 and we danced on their pool tables singing "come on Burton, come on Burton, SWAD, SWAD, SWAD SWAD! Hate them Burton cvnts with a passion.... Did you all squeeze on to the Number 8? Long ways to walk.
I am Rod Hull Posted 22 January 2013 Posted 22 January 2013 Did you all squeeze on to the Number 8? Long ways to walk. No buses were involved
foxoffderby Posted 22 January 2013 Posted 22 January 2013 Side note The Mrs works at the LRI spoke to her about it, she said as a result of this incident a Doctor had to go from treating a patient in a ward to A&E due to the vast number of people who were injured. The patient later died....tragic
Bettsj2 Posted 22 January 2013 Posted 22 January 2013 Strange, but I've still not got an answer to the question. Irrespective of whether ethnic movement to one area is natural or not, the question asked was whether Muslims are allowed to sell their houses to non-Muslims? Furthermore, does anyone know a Muslim family that has? Yes. A friend of mine who is muslim sold his house to another mate who is non muslim. I just called him and asked if he had to keep it on the downlow in case the community frowned upon him and he told me to, 'stop being a fvcking idiot'. Hope this helps!
acooling08 Posted 22 January 2013 Posted 22 January 2013 I think Muslims can sell there houses to non-muslims, but as the house is likely in a Muslim area, who the hell else would want to buy it?
rico Posted 22 January 2013 Posted 22 January 2013 Yes. A friend of mine who is muslim sold his house to another mate who is non muslim. I just called him and asked if he had to keep it on the downlow in case the community frowned upon him and he told me to, 'stop being a fvcking idiot'. Hope this helps!
I am Rod Hull Posted 22 January 2013 Posted 22 January 2013 I think Muslims can sell there houses to non-muslims, but as the house is likely in a Muslim area, who the hell else would want to buy it? Sad but true.
flowwolf Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 Bang goes the lefties theory that it is only whites who have a deep loathing for anything Islamic.
Dr The Singh Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 Bang goes the lefties theory that it is only whites who have a deep loathing for anything Islamic. Not quite, I would imagine any religious group or race including there own would get the same treatment if they did the same acts against the Sikhs. Historically people from pakistan region have been the aggressor against Sikhs.
Rincewind Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 Not a religion fan but there are many kinds of Islam ranging from mild to extremist. Much the same as all religions. I'm not anti-religion so much just I don't pander to an invisible friend. I don't need religion in order to be a good person but some people do and I believe they would be that way regardless.
Hullfox Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 I typed a question into Wikipaedia. I'd clear your history before Operation Yewtree come knocking.
Manwell Pablo Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 Strange, but I've still not got an answer to the question. Irrespective of whether ethnic movement to one area is natural or not, the question asked was whether Muslims are allowed to sell their houses to non-Muslims? Furthermore, does anyone know a Muslim family that has? Yes, A Muslim family sold the house next door to me in Huddersfield to a white family. Our house was occupied by 4 white and one black all aethiest or Christian Students and owned by a Hindu. The area was around 70% Asian, I have no idea of the religious breakdowns though. Given it was Huddersfield I would guess most of them were Muslim as there is a much highier proportion of Muslims to Hindu/Silkhs in Yorkshire. Happy?
digitalalba Posted 23 January 2013 Author Posted 23 January 2013 TBF the Cops had to play it down otherwise there would have been utter mayhem around there. So deceiving the public and/or knowingly lieing to the public is the job of the police service? El Empty Is Jimmy Savilles gang a Christian paedo grooming gang then? The islamic peadophile groups i referred to only target non muslims, prodomanently white girls. Looking for an answer to Thracians question, i found this, paragraph 4, "Al-Manaawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said concerning the meaning of the hadeeth, “Whoever sells a house…â€: Because it is the price of blameworthy worldly adornment, and Allah created the earth and made it a dwelling place for His slaves". http://islamqa.info/en/ref/172445 But according to this http://en.islamtoday.net/node/1580 It is 'unlawful' to rent out a property owned by a muslim who wishes to sell liquor or the direct promotion of the tenant’s faith, like the erection of a church or a temple. Love the next paragraph, "Preparing bodes for burial is not something unique to the unbelievers." "And Allah knows best." Ironicly, 'Allah' had sex with a 9 year old girl, he knew best
breadandcheese Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 Whether it was a rape or not or rumours or whatever, why do people need reminding we have a justice system to follow in this country and that any crime should be reported to the police? If you take things into your own hands, then you are going to be ultimately punished yourself. Don't know why an eye for an eye culture still exists in the UK These lads are now going to get banged up for violence and criminal damage and by the looks of it it was down to some mis-information!! Maybe a bit more of a thought through approach next time This isn't controversial. I agree 100%. If the police were not handling this case correctly, there are complaints procedures to go down, not vigilante community justice. I know the argument is put that "if it was your daughter..." however, there is a reason those close to a victim are not allowed to handle a case (whether it be a surgeon operating on a family member, or a police officer investigating, etc). We should not be encouraging community justice both inside a community or to other communities. The moment we do, we can allow abuses to happen as those inside a community, try to keep things hidden and gloss over crimes. (You only have to look at the catholic church's response to child abuse to see what I mean. They wanted to handle it by themselves and not let the allegations get out, almost sweeping it under the carpet. This allowed further abuse to happen. It was only when outside scrutiny came in that the problem was better addressed.) Or, if the justice is against an outside community, violence will result with innocent people getting caught up, just as I imagine those people in the restaurant found who were unconnected to the events.
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