breadandcheese Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 So deceiving the public and/or knowingly lieing to the public is the job of the police service? El Empty The islamic peadophile groups i referred to only target non muslims, prodomanently white girls. Looking for an answer to Thracians question, i found this, paragraph 4, "Al-Manaawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said concerning the meaning of the hadeeth, “Whoever sells a house…â€: Because it is the price of blameworthy worldly adornment, and Allah created the earth and made it a dwelling place for His slaves". http://islamqa.info/en/ref/172445 But according to this http://en.islamtoday.net/node/1580 It is 'unlawful' to rent out a property owned by a muslim who wishes to sell liquor or the direct promotion of the tenant’s faith, like the erection of a church or a temple. Love the next paragraph, "Preparing bodes for burial is not something unique to the unbelievers." "And Allah knows best." Ironicly, 'Allah' had sex with a 9 year old girl, he knew best Seriously, you're spouting rubbish.
digitalalba Posted 23 January 2013 Author Posted 23 January 2013 This isn't controversial. I agree 100%. If the police were not handling this case correctly, there are complaints procedures to go down, not vigilante community justice. I know the argument is put that "if it was your daughter..." however, there is a reason those close to a victim are not allowed to handle a case (whether it be a surgeon operating on a family member, or a police officer investigating, etc). We should not be encouraging community justice both inside a community or to other communities. The moment we do, we can allow abuses to happen as those inside a community, try to keep things hidden and gloss over crimes. (You only have to look at the catholic church's response to child abuse to see what I mean. They wanted to handle it by themselves and not let the allegations get out, almost sweeping it under the carpet. This allowed further abuse to happen. It was only when outside scrutiny came in that the problem was better addressed.) Or, if the justice is against an outside community, violence will result with innocent people getting caught up, just as I imagine those people in the restaurant found who were unconnected to the events. Thats not quite the same thing is it. The catholic church are not of the authority the police service are. The police are there to uphold the law, catholic peadophiles are there to brush it under the carpet. Trust me, if your daughter, son, niece or newphew was buggered by evil svum, you'll do more than tell someone off on foxestalk. Maybe if the elite wern't so much into child abuse, we wouldn't have everyday sick fvcks in society thinking they can get away with it. Its almost as if the elite are quite happy for dozens of little girls being fiddled with
flowwolf Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 So deceiving the public and/or knowingly lieing to the public is the job of the police service? El Empty The islamic peadophile groups i referred to only target non muslims, prodomanently white girls. Looking for an answer to Thracians question, i found this, paragraph 4, "Al-Manaawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said concerning the meaning of the hadeeth, “Whoever sells a house…â€: Because it is the price of blameworthy worldly adornment, and Allah created the earth and made it a dwelling place for His slaves". http://islamqa.info/en/ref/172445 But according to this http://en.islamtoday.net/node/1580 It is 'unlawful' to rent out a property owned by a muslim who wishes to sell liquor or the direct promotion of the tenant’s faith, like the erection of a church or a temple. Love the next paragraph, "Preparing bodes for burial is not something unique to the unbelievers." "And Allah knows best." Ironicly, 'Allah' had sex with a 9 year old girl, he knew best Ah so that's where they get their Paedo leanings from , a nod of approval from their very own boss.
breadandcheese Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 Thats not quite the same thing is it. The catholic church are not of the authority the police service are. The police are there to uphold the law, catholic peadophiles are there to brush it under the carpet. This is why letting a community police itself is not a good idea and why we should have an independent police service to uphold the law of the land. Trust me, if your daughter, son, niece or newphew was buggered by evil svum, you'll do more than tell someone off on foxestalk. I would be devastated and would want to see the criminal brought to justice, but that would involve wanting to see them convicted and imprisoned. Maybe if the elite wern't so much into child abuse, we wouldn't have everyday sick fvcks in society thinking they can get away with it. Its almost as if the elite are quite happy for dozens of little girls being fiddled with This is clearly rubbish with nothing to back up this statement apart from your own prejudice.
Kyle_Le_Don Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 It could be a more advanced way of taking over without war and then in years to come a massive civil war!?
Dr The Singh Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 It could be a more advanced way of taking over without war and then in years to come a massive civil war!? Between who? A girl was abused, people were angry, this has nothing to do with civil war?????????
yorkie1999 Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 Between who? A girl was abused, people were angry, this has nothing to do with civil war????????? Well it has a bit, Vigilantism is illegal it is also the forerunner to anarchy and civil wars!
Manwell Pablo Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 As an aside I find it funny that Ultras name has been mentioned in a thread with "sex predators" in the title........again.
Ross-Kemp Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 Politically, I lean to the right. I have friends that are white, black, brown, yellow and with the recent weather, blue. I'm friends with Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims, atheists, Christians, Jews and even some Catholics (I'm Protestant) However, some of the stuff that has been posted in this thread is ridiculous. Digitalalba or whatever your name is, you need to be careful, coming onto the Internet and spouting shit like that is very dangerous. Fair play to the Sikhs, they went to the police, the police did nothing. Now before anybody tells me vigilante justice is wrong, stop and think, if a gang raped / attacked your mum/sister/auntie/niece/daughter* (*delete as appropriate) would you really sit around twiddling your thumbs ? No, nobody would, anger would sweep through you and you would want revenge. This attack is nothing to do with race or religion, it's to do with the fact one of their family was 'raped'. Rant over, now lets make love.
Captain... Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 Or to actually report the news that gangs of muslims have delibrately targeted underage white girls to ply with booze and drugs and rape? You really think that should be swept under the carpet? Pretty sickening to be honest, I know leftists will do anything and everything to try and avoid discussing anything where someones race might play a part but lets not allow the rape of children to be part of that, the police appear to be guilty of that enough without the general public resorting to it. My point was that the papers focus on Muslims doing it and make it into a much bigger story, and stir up hatred, whereas in reality a paedophile rapist can be of any race, nationality, colour and all children should be aware of the dangers posed by all predators. My original comment was also motivated by the original article where it seemed to have been a mistake, but if they did rape someone then it is not relevant to this case.
Dr The Singh Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 Well it has a bit, Vigilantism is illegal it is also the forerunner to anarchy and civil wars!
Webbo Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 My point was that the papers focus on Muslims doing it and make it into a much bigger story, and stir up hatred, whereas in reality a paedophile rapist can be of any race, nationality, colour and all children should be aware of the dangers posed by all predators. My original comment was also motivated by the original article where it seemed to have been a mistake, but if they did rape someone then it is not relevant to this case. It wasn't just the papers it made the BBC and ITN too. The main point of the story was that the police had turned a blind eye to abuse for years because they were frightened of accusations of racism. You can't blame the media for reporting the truth just because it might upset some people, that's their job.
Guest MattP Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 My point was that the papers focus on Muslims doing it and make it into a much bigger story, and stir up hatred, whereas in reality a paedophile rapist can be of any race, nationality, colour and all children should be aware of the dangers posed by all predators. My original comment was also motivated by the original article where it seemed to have been a mistake, but if they did rape someone then it is not relevant to this case. That wasn't the case at all though, it was reported like that as they had pretty much gotten away with it because a lot of people including the police force werent investigating these crimes to the full extent because they were scared of accusations of racism. And as much as people don;t want to believe it it is muslim gangs doing it, sikhs, white, chinese or hindu gangs arent cruising the streets offering vulnerable 13 year old girls bottles of vodka and drugs to get them in such a state that can be passed around and raped by a bunch of sickos. When the Catholic church had this problem it was reported as "peadophile priests" because that's what they were and that's the guise they were hiding under to get away with it. You can't just report it as 'a group of men' just because you would have been scared of offending the church. They had a problem and they have to deal with it.
Captain... Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 That wasn't the case at all though, it was reported like that as they had pretty much gotten away with it because a lot of people including the police force werent investigating these crimes to the full extent because they were scared of accusations of racism. And as much as people don;t want to believe it it is muslim gangs doing it, sikhs, white, chinese or hindu gangs arent cruising the streets offering vulnerable 13 year old girls bottles of vodka and drugs to get them in such a state that can be passed around and raped by a bunch of sickos. When the Catholic church had this problem it was reported as "peadophile priests" because that's what they were and that's the guise they were hiding under to get away with it. You can't just report it as 'a group of men' just because you would have been scared of offending the church. They had a problem and they have to deal with it. I don't care the ethnic background of anyone preying on children in this manner, it should be stopped, and if the police are refusing to investigate claims of paedophilia then they only have themselves to blame that this happened. But to me the fact that they are Muslims, and there have been some high profile cases about Muslims recently should be irrelevant to the police, and to the people reporting the news. A predatory paedophile is a predatory paedophile and if you think that this activity is restricted to just Muslims then, sadly, you are mistaken and it is irresponsible to suggest so.
Guest MattP Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 A predatory paedophile is a predatory paedophile and if you think that this activity is restricted to just Muslims then, sadly, you are mistaken and it is irresponsible to suggest so. I don't think anyone has said that, however this sort of paedophilia is only being committed by gangs of muslims. Surely we should be trying to find out the reasons for this rather than sweeping that fact under the carpet?
Guest MattP Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 I don't care the ethnic background of anyone preying on children in this manner, it should be stopped, and if the police are refusing to investigate claims of paedophilia then they only have themselves to blame that this happened. But it's attitudes that it's picking on Muslims and the fear of the accusations of racism that will follow that has stopped this being investigated.
sphericalfox Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 I don't think anyone has said that, however this sort of paedophilia is only being committed by gangs of muslims. Surely we should be trying to find out the reasons for this rather than sweeping that fact under the carpet?
Dr The Singh Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 I don't care the ethnic background of anyone preying on children in this manner, it should be stopped, and if the police are refusing to investigate claims of paedophilia then they only have themselves to blame that this happened. But to me the fact that they are Muslims, and there have been some high profile cases about Muslims recently should be irrelevant to the police, and to the people reporting the news. A predatory paedophile is a predatory paedophile and if you think that this activity is restricted to just Muslims then, sadly, you are mistaken and it is irresponsible to suggest so. Isn't something new, SIkhs encountered this in the 80's, as per this youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8YWeIcXQpxA#! The incident in Luton, the Sikhs re-iterated the issues the muslim pakistani community have with grooming: This isn't the first time in luton, leaflets were distributed in luton urging muslim boys to seduce (by alcohol etc) to use or convert http://knowing-islam...s-in-uk-to.html I believe the pakistani community, needs sort the grooming issue internally, or there gonna keep on getting slapped
Guest MattP Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 Sorry, do provide me with the others who engage in this behaviour then? I can honestly say I never heard of a group of lads from any other group who go around together picking off young girls to drug, rape and pass around each other. I hate to think why people like you always seem to want to defend this behaviour, I dread to think what skeletons are in your closet. Like The Singh says above, you can close your ears all you like and try to run away from it, this has been happening for years by that lot and it's sickos like you that seem for some bizarre reason to give it every opportunity it can to cintinue.
sphericalfox Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 Sorry, do provide me with the others who engage in this behaviour then? I can honestly say I never heard of a group of lads from any other group who go around together picking off young girls to rape. I dread to think why people like you always seem to want to defend this behaviour, I dread to think what skeletons are in your closet. Like The Singh says above, you can close your ears all you like and try to run away from it, this has been happening for years by that lot and it's sickos like you that seem for some bizarre reason to give it every opportunity it can to cintinue. The onus is on you to prove that this is a Muslim-only crime. You've made the statement. You back it up. I just find your view hilariously funny.
Guest MattP Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 The onus is on you to prove that this is a Muslim-only crime. You've made the statement. You back it up. I just find your view hilariously funny. Yeah I bet you do, thank fcuk I'm not your priest.
Guest MattP Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 I believe the pakistani community, needs sort the grooming issue internally, or there gonna keep on getting slapped No chance, they'll always be a string of white liberals to defend anything they do in the name of 'tolerance and diversity'.
acooling08 Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 Every religion has it's lovely, generous and caring people. Every religion also has it's extremists, it's ignorant backward members. Problem is with Islam, the proportion of the latter to the former is much higher than all other mainstream religions. Muslims don't seem to be able to keep their religion to themselves, they all seem to want to thrust their backward beliefs on others, and they seem to think they are better than non-muslims.
sphericalfox Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 Yeah I bet you do, thank fcuk I'm not your priest. That's a great retort. You think what you want to think. If you make a blanket statement as though it was fact, with no evidence, then please excuse for laughing at you.
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