40 Sikh lads defend themselves against Muslim sex predators?

[digitalalba]

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/Peace-talks-held-rampage-Moghul-Durbar-restaurant/story-17880361-detail/story.html

According to thisisleicestershire, a vigilante gang, a 40-strong Sikh mob, ransacked the Moghul Durbar restaurant, in East Park Road, Spinney Hills, on Monday night by misinformation regarding the rape of a teenage Sikh girl.

City police commander Chief Superintendent Rob Nixon said, "We are aware of a number of rumours and misinformation which is circulating within the communities in Leicester,".

This is very worrying for the community of Leicester as a whole. Trouble between communities such as Sikh's and Muslims is relatively unheard of in Britain, so for 40 Sikh lads to turn up in the prodomanently Islamic area of east park road would mean stepping into 'enemy' territory. For 40 Sikh lads to do this, they would have to have serious concern. This concern could be encouraged by the amount of Islamic peadophile grooming gangs that have been in opperation over the last 30 years in Britain, dozens of Muslims have recieved long prison sentences for unspeakable acts on young girls.

But to make a mistake like this could result in a revenge attack, as City police commander Chief Superintendent Rob Nixon said, "Reports that a Sikh girl has been snatched from outside a gurdwara in Leicester are also false."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21060288

Its not faith on faith, its Sikh's attacking Muslims.

[Guest BlueBrett]

****ing hell!

Can't wait to watch all the police officials and politicians squirming as they try to answer questions on this without inferring that there are racial and religious issues at the heart of it.

[Guest MattP]

http://www.thisislei...tail/story.html

According to thisisleicestershire, a vigilante gang, a 40-strong Sikh mob, ransacked the Moghul Durbar restaurant, in East Park Road, Spinney Hills, on Monday night by misinformation regarding the rape of a teenage Sikh girl.

City police commander Chief Superintendent Rob Nixon said, "We are aware of a number of rumours and misinformation which is circulating within the communities in Leicester,".

This is very worrying for the community of Leicester as a whole. Trouble between communities such as Sikh's and Muslims is relatively unheard of in Britain, so for 40 Sikh lads to turn up in the prodomanently Islamic area of east park road would mean stepping into 'enemy' territory. For 40 Sikh lads to do this, they would have to have serious concern. This concern could be encouraged by the amount of Islamic peadophile grooming gangs that have been in opperation over the last 30 years in Britain, dozens of Muslims have recieved long prison sentences for unspeakable acts on young girls.

But to make a mistake like this could result in a revenge attack, as City police commander Chief Superintendent Rob Nixon said, "Reports that a Sikh girl has been snatched from outside a gurdwara in Leicester are also false."

http://www.bbc.co.uk...rshire-21060288

Its not faith on faith, its Sikh's attacking Muslims.

What fantasy land do these lot live in? It's been going on for years.

Heard about this when it happened, i go out drinking with quite a few sikhs and it's certainly not 'misinformation', it goes beyond the so called 'reported rape'.

Love sikhs, proper warrior race, take no shit whatsoever.

[Head Honcho]

This happened last week didn't it?

The Leicestershire Police facebook page mentioned it last week and totally forgot to mention any Sikh involvement and Muslim owned restaurant.

Asking for witnesses and leaving out vital info such as this is not good police work.

[Guest BlueBrett]

What fantasy land do these lot live in? It's been going on for years

I know, this guy is so dopey. In the very same sentence he moves from saying there has been hardly any trouble to Sikhs going into Muslim areas represents an encroachment into 'enemy territory'. Doesn't anybody proof read for illogic these days?

[Father Ted]

Ive also heard the same as MattP from close friends. Not nice at all. The OP is clueless. Muslims and Sikhs have never got on and East Park Road is known for being a 'Sikh road' with the temple and the march during Vaisakhi.

Its dog eat dog and Im sure most ethnic communities would react in a similar way.

[Yastafox]

Grew up off East Park road still live nearby. Having spent the majority of my youth around there I can honestly say that I never encountered any issues with any other race/religion around the area. Was quite shocked when I heard this.

[Thracian]

Ive also heard the same as MattP from close friends. Not nice at all. The OP is clueless. Muslims and Sikhs have never got on and East Park Road is known for being a 'Sikh road' with the temple and the march during Vaisakhi.

Its dog eat dog and Im sure most ethnic communities would react in a similar way.

Who's allowed these "territories" to be developed anyway? I typed a question into Wikipaedia as a result of what's been said here and found it to be the only one I've ever asked which didn't come up with any sort of answer.

The question was: "Can Muslims sell property to non-Muslims?" There was no reference whatsoever. It was as if the question had never been thought of. And yet, certain areas are referred to here as "Muslim territory". How could that happen?

If I sell my house can i specify it can't be sold to anyone but an English Christian? Or a Hindu, or a Sikh? I don't think so. And yet whole streets in Leicester have changed "faith" in recent decades to seemingly become the enclaves of one religion or another. Who, I'd ask, has allowed that to happen? And how? And why?

And does anyone actually know the answer to my specific question? Surely there's a Muslim on here could put me right.

But, from what i've read within the Islamic hadiths I would say is is very questionable because, for a start, Muslims are obliged to promote their faith and to guard against making alliances (friendships) with any who might steer them away from their chosen path.

Yes, they can make individual acquaintances but surely, by selling a house to a non-Muslim and therefore allowing a non-Muslim presence in their midst instead of a "safe" Muslim resident, would they not be risking potential corruption, not for themselves but for other followers of Islam?

Yes, I know Labour was desperate to chase the immigrant vote and there's so many examples of them undermining the Christian foundations of this country in doing so - with even "our own" Colin Hall waving the flag for atheism while publicly representing our multi-faith City as mayor.

But would Labour, the so-called representatives of the British working man, calculatingly undermine the broadly Christian foundations of this country (and its indigenous working men) by willfully allowing the Muslim community - and others - to increase their holdings of British land by turning a blind eye to selective or non-competiive selling of property to certain people only?

Could I - as a follower of my own faith - legally refuse to sell my house to someone because they were Sikh or Muslim or Jewish, or whatever because I didn't wish them to have it? I'm sure I might manage to do so quietly if i wished, but could I do so legally or offficially?

Yet, can I also believe that no non-Muslim or no non-Sikh has sought to buy houses in certain parts of Leicester in recent years therefore allowing the so-called "territories" to develop?

I would certainly like to know the truth of it. Cos the way things seem to have panned out hardly stands alongside the theory of a City trying to develop genuine multi-culturalist, does it? More of a City bending or ignoring the rules for its own ends. Or allowing an unfair bargaining situation to go on.

I look forward to my suspicions being entirely alleviated or course and to apologising for even being ignorant enough to ask the question.

http://www.answering-christianity.com/friends.htm

[breadandcheese]

Who's allowed these "territories" to be developed anyway? I typed a question into Wikipaedia as a result of what's been said here and found it to be the only one I've ever asked which didn't come up with any sort of answer.

The question was: "Can Muslims sell property to non-Muslims?" There was no reference whatsoever. It was as if the question had never been thought of. And yet, certain areas are referred to here as "Muslim territory". How could that happen?

If I sell my house can i specify it can't be sold to anyone but an English Christian? Or a Hindu, or a Sikh? I don't think so. And yet whole streets in Leicester have changed "faith" in recent decades to seemingly become the enclaves of one religion or another. Who, I'd ask, has allowed that to happen? And how? And why?

And does anyone actually know the answer to my specific question? Surely there's a Muslim on here could put me right.

But, from what i've read within the Islamic hadiths I would say is is very questionable because, for a start, Muslims are obliged to promote their faith and to guard against making alliances (friendships) with any who might steer them away from their chosen path.

Yes, they can make individual acquaintances but surely, by selling a house to a non-Muslim and therefore allowing a non-Muslim presence in their midst instead of a "safe" Muslim resident, would they not be risking potential corruption, not for themselves but for other followers of Islam?

Yes, I know Labour was desperate to chase the immigrant vote and there's so many examples of them undermining the Christian foundations of this country in doing so - with even "our own" Colin Hall waving the flag for atheism while publicly representing our multi-faith City as mayor.

But would Labour, the so-called representatives of the British working man, calculatingly undermine the broadly Christian foundations of this country (and its indigenous working men) by willfully allowing the Muslim community - and others - to increase their holdings of British land by turning a blind eye to selective or non-competiive selling of property to certain people only?

Could I - as a follower of my own faith - legally refuse to sell my house to someone because they were Sikh or Muslim or Jewish, or whatever because I didn't wish them to have it? I'm sure I might manage to do so quietly if i wished, but could I do so legally or offficially?

Yet, can I also believe that no non-Muslim or no non-Sikh has sought to buy houses in certain parts of Leicester in recent years therefore allowing the so-called "territories" to develop?

I would certainly like to know the truth of it. Cos the way things seem to have panned out hardly stands alongside the theory of a City trying to develop genuine multi-culturalist, does it? More of a City bending or ignoring the rules for its own ends. Or allowing an unfair bargaining situation to go on.

I look forward to my suspicions being entirely alleviated or course and to apologising for even being ignorant enough to ask the question.

http://www.answering...com/friends.htm

Maybe, it is simply that different ethnic groups move into the same area for convenience, not pre-planned, but simply organic growth as they need similar services (temples/mosques, dietary requirements - restaurants, food shops, etc). Then, as ethnic communities develop in a certain area, the pace of change increases as existing communities move out from what they perceive as a changing area, whilst new businesses catering towards a growing community move in encouraging more of an ethnic community.

We're seeing the same thing with East European areas, which may change existing Sikh or Muslim areas as the existing residents become more wealthy and move out. There is nothing pre-planned or sinister about it.

With regards selling property to a different ethnic group, I can't imagine that a seller's motivation is motivated by anything more than price. A muslim, hindu, sikh will be motivated by the best price, not the ethnicity of the person they're selling to, especially when you're talking houses where transactions are many thousands of pounds.

[Father Ted]

Maybe, it is simply that different ethnic groups move into the same area for convenience, not pre-planned, but simply organic growth as they need similar services (temples/mosques, dietary requirements - restaurants, food shops, etc). Then, as ethnic communities develop in a certain area, the pace of change increases as existing communities move out from what they perceive as a changing area, whilst new businesses catering towards a growing community move in encouraging more of an ethnic community.

We're seeing the same thing with East European areas, which may change existing Sikh or Muslim areas as the existing residents become more wealthy and move out. There is nothing pre-planned or sinister about it.

With regards selling property to a different ethnic group, I can't imagine that a seller's motivation is motivated by anything more than price. A muslim, hindu, sikh will be motivated by the best price, not the ethnicity of the person they're selling to, especially when you're talking houses where transactions are many thousands of pounds.

Saved me the effort, couldn't have put it better myself.

[Dr The Singh]

Maybe, it is simply that different ethnic groups move into the same area for convenience, not pre-planned, but simply organic growth as they need similar services (temples/mosques, dietary requirements - restaurants, food shops, etc). Then, as ethnic communities develop in a certain area, the pace of change increases as existing communities move out from what they perceive as a changing area, whilst new businesses catering towards a growing community move in encouraging more of an ethnic community.

We're seeing the same thing with East European areas, which may change existing Sikh or Muslim areas as the existing residents become more wealthy and move out. There is nothing pre-planned or sinister about it.

With regards selling property to a different ethnic group, I can't imagine that a seller's motivation is motivated by anything more than price. A muslim, hindu, sikh will be motivated by the best price, not the ethnicity of the person they're selling to, especially when you're talking houses where transactions are many thousands of pounds.

Sikhs are these days very well organised, they have there own media channels and technology has made issues very aware. It's fair to say, and history would agree, if you leave the sikhs alone, then you won't hear a whisper, you start messing, then expect retribution.

A similar incident happened in Luton, and over 300 Sikhs blockaded the road to the police station because they felt the police were not responsive enough. Luton has a very small Sikh community, but the organisation and cohesiveness shows, Sikhs are very active and very mobile.

On this situation, i'm abit worried about any action being taken from just hearsay etc. If the rumours are true, then good on the guys. I'm hoping Sikhs can further evolve from just protecting there 'own'. I know alot of people that live in the area, it's close to the largest skih temple in leicester, and hence a large presence.

[digitalalba]

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I know, this guy is so dopey. In the very same sentence he moves from saying there has been hardly any trouble to Sikhs going into Muslim areas represents an encroachment into 'enemy territory'. Doesn't anybody proof read for illogic these days?

That is a false quote. I never mentioned Sikh's going into muslims areas.

Highfields, Evington and St Mathews for that matter, are where you're likely to find Leicesters muslims living. Belgrave and Rushey Mead are where you're likely to find Leicesters Sikh's and Hindus living. Muslims don't seem to mix with others, hence the 40 Sikh lads "encroachment into 'enemy territory'".

[digitalalba]

Ive also heard the same as MattP from close friends. Not nice at all. The OP is clueless. Muslims and Sikhs have never got on and East Park Road is known for being a 'Sikh road' with the temple and the march during Vaisakhi.

Its dog eat dog and Im sure most ethnic communities would react in a similar way.

I didn't try to claim that muslims and sikhs did get on.

My bad about east park rd, sorry. I thought it was part of Highfields.

[foxoffderby]

That is a false quote. I never mentioned Sikh's going into muslims areas.

Highfields, Evington and St Mathews for that matter, are where you're likely to find Leicesters muslims living. Belgrave and Rushey Mead are where you're likely to find Leicesters Sikh's and Hindus living. Muslims don't seem to mix with others, hence the 40 Sikh lads "encroachment into 'enemy territory'".

Belgrave Rushey Mead - Hindus

Oadby Narborough Road - Sikhs

[Captain...]

As much as i understand any attack by Sikhs that believe a member of their community has been attacked and raped I can only see bad things coming from this especially if it is stirred up as a religious war.

If as the original article states is was a case of misinformation then I an even more worried, but when we live in a country that splashes paedophilia over the front pages and headlines of every news outlet, and especially if it is religion related them people will jump to conclusions, their are some newspapers that consistently print stories about Muslim paedophile rings serving no purpose other than to stir up hatred.

If this case isn't misinformation then you really have to ask why they didn't in to the police or if they did why didn't the police act sufficiently.

Ultimately nothing good can come from this.

[foxoffderby]

I didn't try to claim that muslims and sikhs did get on.

My bad about east park rd, sorry. I thought it was part of Highfields.

East Park Road was a Sikh area back in the 70's and 80's hence the Gurdwara being built there. But as they became more affulent they moved out and the Muslim community moved in

[Guest MattP]

their are some newspapers that consistently print stories about Muslim paedophile rings serving no purpose other than to stir up hatred.

Or to actually report the news that gangs of muslims have delibrately targeted underage white girls to ply with booze and drugs and rape?

You really think that should be swept under the carpet? Pretty sickening to be honest, I know leftists will do anything and everything to try and avoid discussing anything where someones race might play a part but lets not allow the rape of children to be part of that, the police appear to be guilty of that enough without the general public resorting to it.

[digitalalba]

East Park Road was a Sikh area back in the 70's and 80's hence the Gurdwara being built there. But as they became more affulent they moved out and the Muslim community moved in

So is it a 50 50 mix or still prodomanently Sikh?

[foxoffderby]

So is it a 50 50 mix or still prodomanently Sikh?

I would say its majority Muslim now with other minority communities. But Sikhs travel there from surronding areas to pray at the Gurdwara.

[digitalalba]

Or to actually report the news that gangs of muslims have delibrately targeted underage white girls to ply with booze and drugs and rape?

You really think that should be swept under the carpet? Pretty sickening to be honest, I know leftists will do anything and everything to try and avoid discussing anything where someones race might play a part but lets not allow the rape of children to be part of that, the police appear to be guilty of that enough without the general public resorting to it.

It wont take someone long to find a muslim grooming gang on the net arrested for dispicable crimes against humanity, young girls that is, white mostly. Alot of the time the girl will end up getting preganant, sometimes at the age of 12 or 13, either she's forced into getting some backstreet abortion with horrific consequences, or the baby is born, then the relatives have to help bring two children up or if the girl has nowhere to go she moves into an islamic family where she's most likely forced to live under a veil to cook, clean and generally look after men.

What with the saville etc scandle, you can see why politicians don't throw the full weight of the law and all their resources into tackling this issue.

[digitalalba]

I would say its majority Muslim now with other minority communities. But Sikhs travel there from surronding areas to pray at the Gurdwara.

That contradicts Father teds claim that, "East Park Road is known for being a 'Sikh road' with the temple and the march during Vaisakhi.", or are muslims happy with EPR being called a Sikh road?

[foxoffderby]

That contradicts Father teds claim that, "East Park Road is known for being a 'Sikh road' with the temple and the march during Vaisakhi.", or are muslims happy with EPR being called a Sikh road?

Its not a Sikh Road anymore just that the Gurdwara is based there. So Sikhs visit there to pray. Yeah there will be pokets still living there.

I was born in Highfields in the 70's. Just my shout you can believe what you like.

[Steven]

What fantasy land do these lot live in? It's been going on for years.

Heard about this when it happened, i go out drinking with quite a few sikhs and it's certainly not 'misinformation', it goes beyond the so called 'reported rape'.

Love sikhs, proper warrior race, take no shit whatsoever.

Quite. Slough v Southall

[Dr The Singh]

Quite. Slough v Southall

Wrong it was slough vs slough, 2 different areas of it

[Dr The Singh]

Things haven't changed much, Sikh have had issues with muslims for years, look at this documentary created in 1988.

Funny thing in the video, the Sikh guys are all out in the open, showing there faces, and muslim guys are all shadowed out, cowards!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8YWeIcXQpxA#!