Guest BlueBrett Posted 6 March 2013 Share Posted 6 March 2013 Fergie (although he's mellowed the past year or 2), Dalglish and a whole variety of other managers have long given reporters short shrift, giving nothing away to fans - it never affected them. I'd put media persona in a 'would like to have' column... not in the essential column... quite frankly I couldn't care less It's just something else to beat Pearson up with & wouldn't get a mention after a good performance & a win... Anyway, managers who talk freely to the press just comes out with loads of cliches anyway, it's not like they come out with their tactics for the next game or who they're going to sign... the stuff fans really want to know. It's just a load of bollox about things being part & parcel of the game, need to try harder in xyz position or push on right to the end... who gives a flying **** I wasn't saying I'd prefer a 'personality' type. Just someone who understands the fans' thirst for information and is willing to provide a bit of insight rather than a guy who seems to take every question other than 'didn't the boys play well tonight Nigel?' as a personal affront. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 6 March 2013 Share Posted 6 March 2013 I also want a manager who 'plays his cards close to his chest'. That werent what was happening last night... I'm amazed anyone heard it like that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza M Posted 6 March 2013 Share Posted 6 March 2013 Yes if I was in charge and the cash was there, I would move for a couple of experienced players to help us out until the end of the season. We need some experience to help the young lads on the field. Its ok having the likes of Wellens and Gallagher in the squad to do that, but they aren't good enough to get out on the field where it matters most. We need a LB to slot in for Konchesky currently and a central midfielder with some bite! I would go for Nicky Shorey or Danny Higginbotham as a short term cover at LB. Hard to think of any central midfielders that fit the bill to be honest, but its an area we need experience or at a push another wide man. Long term I would move heaven and earth to sign Liam Trotter from Millwall. A summer must NP, regardless of what league we end in next season! Personaly I dont think Pearson will do that. He is a stubbern as we know and will stick by the players we have, with probably a young full-back coming through the door to cover Konchesky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangecity23 Posted 6 March 2013 Share Posted 6 March 2013 Some morons verbally abused Pearson. Pearson made a statement that people who just want to spend the whole game slagging players off and being negative might as well not bother coming. Fair point, if you spend the whole game effing and blinding, are you really enjoying it? Can't understand why anyone would want to do it to be honest. If anything, Nigel is "saying it like he sees it", and "calling it like it is". Thought that was what you were all about Col ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc_star Posted 6 March 2013 Share Posted 6 March 2013 Yes if I was in charge and the cash was there, I would move for a couple of experienced players to help us out until the end of the season. We need some experience to help the young lads on the field. Its ok having the likes of Wellens and Gallagher in the squad to do that, but they aren't good enough to get out on the field where it matters most. We need a LB to slot in for Konchesky currently and a central midfielder with some bite! I would go for Nicky Shorey or Danny Higginbotham as a short term cover at LB. Hard to think of any central midfielders that fit the bill to be honest, but its an area we need experience or at a push another wide man. Long term I would move heaven and earth to sign Liam Trotter from Millwall. A summer must NP, regardless of what league we end in next season! Personaly I dont think Pearson will do that. He is a stubbern as we know and will stick by the players we have, with probably a young full-back coming through the door to cover Konchesky. How does anyone know he's not jumping up & down at the board to max out on loans bringing 6 in or whatever we're allowed to play? For all anyone knows he could have wanted to sign 5 world class internationals in January? He's a private man who does his talking on the pitch & his dealings with the club in private... No one actually knows what he would do, no one knows if there's shackles on & a ceiling that he's having to work under, no one knows if the board lined up Messi & Ronaldo but Pearson declined wanting to stick by the players we have. No one knows anything beyond conjecture on FoxesTalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealingfox Posted 6 March 2013 Share Posted 6 March 2013 When is James back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savillefoxes Posted 6 March 2013 Share Posted 6 March 2013 I posted on another thread about bringing Danns back and got laughed at.Come to the conclusion there are a lot of blinkered city fans on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozwin Posted 6 March 2013 Share Posted 6 March 2013 Matty James getting injured coincides with the poor form really. Such an important player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Fatboyslow_ Posted 6 March 2013 Share Posted 6 March 2013 I posted on another thread about bringing Danns back and got laughed at.Come to the conclusion there are a lot of blinkered city fans on here. no just some on here see him for what he his Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savillefoxes Posted 6 March 2013 Share Posted 6 March 2013 But ask yourself who was our best player at the back end of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oadby Fox Posted 7 March 2013 Share Posted 7 March 2013 I think pearson needs to loan for one final push before its to late to add some depth to us Never was there truer words spoken, but I'm not sure on how it stands on loaning managers out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowwolf Posted 7 March 2013 Share Posted 7 March 2013 The only thing I can see him looking for is his P45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 7 March 2013 Share Posted 7 March 2013 I think pearson needs to loan for one final push before its to late to add some depth to us More likely he needs to start looking at the potential job vacancies. For all the talk of wonderful team spirit, something seems to have gone wrong at this club over the last few weeks and i can only wonder if Pearson either knows or believes that he'll be replaced in the summer or even before if the situation gets worse, and has lost some of his enthusiasm. He should have stuck to the attacking policy which eventually took us to the top of the table in the first quarter of the season and then built further towards improving our return from that policy. He should also have attended to his media performances. It was mentioned both in his first spell at the club and in this second spell that he really needed to improve his handling of media interviews because dealing with this aspect of the club's promotion and publicity is part of the job and a part of what's necessary to establish a bigger brand and a wider appeal...factors that matter if the club is going to grow and compete. That he hasn't changed - most markedly with the local media - just reflects, to me, the apparent stubborness of his character. And yes he does need to look at the loan market. We need about four players including a free-kick specialist because Waghorn - our best - shows no signs of being a first team regular yet we need the goals that are so readily available from dead ball situations. We also need Schlupp involved now or proper cover at left-back/left wing/central midfield/striker. And we need a proper right winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyFromLE Posted 7 March 2013 Share Posted 7 March 2013 Literally can't believe people are calling for Pearson's head 13 games (ish) left of the season, 4 points clear of 7th, 8 points off of 2nd place. This season has been the best for years, ruined by negative fans. Get behind 'em for gods sake! If we sack him now - we can definitely kiss goodbye to the plays off and auto. Just get behind 'em for another 12 games, if we don't make it - you can get your own way and we'll be back to square 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 7 March 2013 Share Posted 7 March 2013 Literally can't believe people are calling for Pearson's head 13 games (ish) left of the season, 4 points clear of 7th, 8 points off of 2nd place. This season has been the best for years, ruined by negative fans. Get behind 'em for gods sake! If we sack him now - we can definitely kiss goodbye to the plays off and auto. Just get behind 'em for another 12 games, if we don't make it - you can get your own way and we'll be back to square 1. But it's all the same people who didn't want him back in the first place, their minds were made up before we even kicked a ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdwith2beaksandnofriends Posted 7 March 2013 Share Posted 7 March 2013 I posted on another thread about bringing Danns back and got laughed at.Come to the conclusion there are a lot of blinkered city fans on here. That's right. If someone doesn't agree with you, they are blinkered. The world is just full of blinkered people who just refuse to see the light, the one true way. I'm not like that though, I see you for what you are; a beacon of truth, a fount of knowledge and generous with it too. As a result, I now think Danns is the answer to all of our problems. The lack of a left back, the disintegration of our midfield, the lack of ideas from our manager, the poor atmosphere at the ground, the lack of spitter (or spitter2) app on almost every phone in the UK, Elvis Hammond's busted ankle and our capitulation against Wolves in the prem when three nil up at half time. He's definitely not a mediocre player who only has to do so much running as he's always in the wrong plays, no siree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 7 March 2013 Share Posted 7 March 2013 Literally can't believe people are calling for Pearson's head 13 games (ish) left of the season, 4 points clear of 7th, 8 points off of 2nd place. This season has been the best for years, ruined by negative fans. Get behind 'em for gods sake! If we sack him now - we can definitely kiss goodbye to the plays off and auto. Just get behind 'em for another 12 games, if we don't make it - you can get your own way and we'll be back to square 1. I hope you don't mean me. I've not called for his head either in the comment above or anywhere else. But the embarrassment early season when Redknapp was being talked of as a likely replacement and the appearance of Adkins at the ground hardly engenders the feeling that our owners are happy with the current situation and if that's been made even plainer then it could have affected our mood. You might be surprised but i actually agree with you. This is no time to change and I have serious doubts that another wholesale change - rather than building on what we have - will be the answer in the summer either. But that doesn't make me a Pearson fan. I think he has good points and bad but overall i don't think he'd have been the manager i'd have chosen had i been an owner. Yes, i was tempted to think again at the start of the season when we showed a refreshing willingness to go for goals and enjoy the game...a policy which took us top as I thought it would. But, as expected, that all but disappeared as the stakes got higher so that now - the Blackburn game so notably excepted - we now look like an apology for promotion chasers and "President" Pearson seems to have no idea how to bring the excitement and belief back into our football. Not that the fans helped with their talk of employing a miserable 4-3-3 alternative and the idea of squeezing the space. It really is a sadly limited system. Our trouble is we don't have the personnel to easily play effectively any other way than 4-4-2 and, yes, certain tactics highlight our weaknesses and limitations even with that. Ironically the absence of Schlupp seriously adds to our problems in terms of alternatives. Because if we're going to attack we have to have pace. Marshall doesn't have it, Knockaert's not a winger and Dyer's misguidedly been relegated to the bench. Consequently we've insufficient dangermen to require the double banking necessary to create space for others in a 4-4-2. Yes, Marshall's crosses can be utilised in a 4-3-3 but he's far too easily negated by close marking and that leaves only two Plan B alternatives. One is the usually dour and difficult 4-5-1 but, again, we lack the genuine wingers and fast-breaking central midfield players to make that effective. And that leaves only the highly adventurous 3-5-2 which, for me, would be by far the most exciting alternative given that opponents so rarely attack us in numbers anyway and we'd be able to retain all the pace and potential threat that 4-4-2 gives us but with a tighter, more combative midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyFromLE Posted 7 March 2013 Share Posted 7 March 2013 I hope you don't mean me. I've not called for his head either in the comment above or anywhere else. But the embarrassment early season when Redknapp was being talked of as a likely replacement and the appearance of Adkins at the ground hardly engenders the feeling that our owners are happy with the current situation and if that's been made even plainer then it could have affected our mood. You might be surprised but i actually agree with you. This is no time to change and I have serious doubts that another wholesale change - rather than building on what we have - will be the answer in the summer either. But that doesn't make me a Pearson fan. I think he has good points and bad but overall i don't think he'd have been the manager i'd have chosen had i been an owner. Yes, i was tempted to think again at the start of the season when we showed a refreshing willingness to go for goals and enjoy the game...a policy which took us top as I thought it would. But, as expected, that all but disappeared as the stakes got higher so that now - the Blackburn game so notably excepted - we now look like an apology for promotion chasers and "President" Pearson seems to have no idea how to bring the excitement and belief back into our football. Not that the fans helped with their talk of employing a miserable 4-3-3 alternative and the idea of squeezing the space. It really is a sadly limited system. Our trouble is we don't have the personnel to easily play effectively any other way than 4-4-2 and, yes, certain tactics highlight our weaknesses and limitations even with that. Ironically the absence of Schlupp seriously adds to our problems in terms of alternatives. Because if we're going to attack we have to have pace. Marshall doesn't have it, Knockaert's not a winger and Dyer's misguidedly been relegated to the bench. Consequently we've insufficient dangermen to require the double banking necessary to create space for others in a 4-4-2. Yes, Marshall's crosses can be utilised in a 4-3-3 but he's far too easily negated by close marking and that leaves only two Plan B alternatives. One is the usually dour and difficult 4-5-1 but, again, we lack the genuine wingers and fast-breaking central midfield players to make that effective. And that leaves only the highly adventurous 3-4-3 which, for me, would be by far the most exciting alternative given that opponents so rarely attack us in numbers anyway and we'd be able to retain all the pace and potential threat that 4-4-2 gives us but with a tighter, more combative midfield. Not at all Thrac! I tend to agree with your posts more often than not, and this is no exception. I think generally the mood on here particularly is extremely low - but I struggle to understand why it is so low, given our position and the standard of football we've been treated to this year, especially at home. I know people are worried about dropping out the play-offs, I know people don't like Pearson, I know people think our squad is extremely limited - which in all honesty it is starting to look that way more and more but. Surely we can't throw it all away now by having hissy fits at each other and calling for the managers head because we've had a run of 4/5 games were we've struggled for points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 7 March 2013 Share Posted 7 March 2013 Not at all Thrac! I tend to agree with your posts more often than not, and this is no exception. I think generally the mood on here particularly is extremely low - but I struggle to understand why it is so low, given our position and the standard of football we've been treated to this year, especially at home. I know people are worried about dropping out the play-offs, I know people don't like Pearson, I know people think our squad is extremely limited - which in all honesty it is starting to look that way more and more but. Surely we can't throw it all away now by having hissy fits at each other and calling for the managers head because we've had a run of 4/5 games were we've struggled for points? Sorry I quoted 3-4-3 as the exciting alternative but actually meant 3-5-2. The idea is to retain enough width and movement to frustrate close-marking and keep enough attackers in dangerous areas to take advantage of any mistakes our pressure forces. It would also enable us to keep playing to our strengths which is passing the ball quickly and having people like Dyer (outside) and Knockaert/Schlpp/Drinkwater (inside) to exploit the gaps. The three defenders would work on a gentle pivot basis with King dropping back when necessary to provide an extra aerial presence and to ensure that the ball is played out from defence quickly, calmly and constructively, rather like Lennon used to do in a similar situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ty fox Posted 7 March 2013 Share Posted 7 March 2013 i think there is something bothering the players attitudes they looked miserable on tuesday v leeds scum and there was no belief in them. nugent looked angry all the time instead of smiling and laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyFromLE Posted 7 March 2013 Share Posted 7 March 2013 i think there is something bothering the players attitudes they looked miserable on tuesday v leeds scum and there was no belief in them. nugent looked angry all the time instead of smiling and laughing. Probably the fact that they've led us to the best season in years, and still people boo them off. They need a lift, from the fans, manager, a new player, each other - who knows. Let's just get behind 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ty fox Posted 7 March 2013 Share Posted 7 March 2013 Probably the fact that they've led us to the best season in years, and still people boo them off. They need a lift, from the fans, manager, a new player, each other - who knows. Let's just get behind 'em. i couldnt scream any louder if i tried but will try again saturday. come on guys get behind them all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Fatboyslow_ Posted 7 March 2013 Share Posted 7 March 2013 And that leaves only the highly adventurous 3-5-2 which, for me, would be by far the most exciting alternative given that opponents so rarely attack us in numbers anyway and we'd be able to retain all the pace and potential threat that 4-4-2 gives us but with a tighter, more combative midfield. This has much more appeal than Dyer as a left back and is much more creditable than recalling Danns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfox Posted 7 March 2013 Share Posted 7 March 2013 We need to get in someone like Richard Chaplow until the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc_star Posted 7 March 2013 Share Posted 7 March 2013 i think there is something bothering the players attitudes they looked miserable on tuesday v leeds scum and there was no belief in them. nugent looked angry all the time instead of smiling and laughing. I'd be miserable when you see other clubs fans... then see ours. First real tough test of the season where the supporters could aid the players... and the fans just aren't up to it. Seems our supporters only support when it looked like we were walking the autos - now we've got a hill to climb, the fans ain't up to it and would sooner throw their toys out the pram and start all over again, invoking yet another transitional season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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