pSinatra Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 A lot of people have said this about the Udders game. It may be coincidence but changing that winning team at that point seems to have had an impact. Ridiculous to not play our best side. I actually thought it wasn't such a bad thing going out of the FA Cup, as the league will always have a bigger importance as far as I'm concerned. I know not everyone thinks this, but the romance in the cup has gone for me. I thought "the sooner we're out of the cup, the better". I was wrong. I didn't mind us losing so much - it was the way we lost. It was treated with little or no respect......& the same can be said for the supporters who paid good money to see such drivel. We dropped our concentration & amount of effort for the Huddersfield game. We have never got it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 To the staunch Pearsonites... Rather than coming on here and simply giving us the stock 'Pearson will turn it around' type comments, lets have an adult debate on what is wrong with the team at the moment. Because something is. And please don't start off with 'we are still 5th'... Yes I know that, but if we don't start improving we won't be for much longer. Ill start... I think there's not enough pace in the side. When coming forward we don't attack quickly enough and give the opposition time to get back behind the ball and to regroup. Personally I think we miss Lloyd Dyer's pace. Comments please if you can be bothered.. First of all, we're still 5th. I don't buy that that's not a reasonable argument because it is the best way of judging the manager over the course of the season. As for what's wrong, well it's impossible to know exactly. But the suggestion that we can't turn it around and indeed that the manager can't turn it around is, if you ask me, laughable. We had a very similar run in late October and early November, and the usual suspects were criticising everything Pearson, but we turned it around then and there's no reason we can't do the same again. If we're going to wildly speculate about what has caused recent issues, then I wouldn't be surprised if the signing of Harry Kane has caused a few problems. It's nothing against him and on occasions I have been impressed by him, I said at the time that I thought it was an unnecessary signing and I stand by that. Personally I think that, along with the fact that they haven't been brought of the bench when we've needed to score goals, will have told a few of the strikers we currently have at the club that the manager has no faith in them, which is something he usually doesn't do. It's also led to Futacs going out on loan which, potentially, may have upset Knockaert. That's all just speculation but it would to some degree explain a shift in morale and as a result the attitude of the players. Another problem is the fans. I don't care what anybody says, the negative attitude that the fans have at games does have a very real effect on the players and given our position in the league and the long term progression we've seen I think it's completely unreasonable. There was a real negative vibe from our fans today, despite the fact that we're in a position that most fans would have taken at the start of the season. At the end of the day it's the players that go out and play football, and when they're criticised by the fans for any pass that doesn't find it's target, it's no surprise that they give up trying to play that way and end up hoofing it up to Chris Wood. You know I've grown up listening to a lot of Leicester fans moaning about the lack of success at the club, the inept managers, the average players, frankly I'm starting to come to the conclusion that during that time we've got everything we deserve. Some of our fans are trying to orchestrate the dismissal of the best manager we've appointed in my life time, it's just ridiculous really, it's no surprise that we're not in the Premier League. Nigel Pearson has made some mistakes, but looking at the bigger picture has us in the top six with a young squad that's only going to improve, whilst cutting costs and moving us closer to being financially sustainable. Does anyone honestly think that the small mistakes outway what he's achieving at the club right now? Because it disturbs me if that is the case. Call me a happy clapper if you want, but with the club in the league position we are in. With a squad full of young hungry players who are only going to get better, with all that being done whilst we've cut costs. I don't think there is much wrong to be honest, maybe a few issues tactically or one or two dodgy signings, but it's not enough to even consider sacking him for. If we got rid of Pearson it really could finish off the passion I have for football, and sitting near people who stick around till the end of the game just to boo their own players, who insult players before they're even on the pitch, who encourage their kids to do the same, that's already started to dent my love of football. We're in the top six, yet people have made it one of the least enjoyable seasons as a fan in recent memory. We should be ****ing celebrating that we're looking at one of our highest finishes, if not our highest finish, in ten years, but it's kind of hard to do that when it feels like no one else can appreciate how lucky we are to finally be in that position again. It's depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMX11 Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 The players cannot handle the pressure. We need Beckford back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 The players cannot handle the pressure. We need Beckford back One of the statements that still sticks in my head is when we first got into 1st or maybe it was 2nd, it was certainly the automatic places and we lost and dropped down into the playoff spots, Nugent was interviewed and when questioned on the failure to uphold an automatic place he said 'I think we were abit scared'. Sums it up really, how the hell they are going to deal with the pressure of the playoffs should we make them baffles me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savillefoxes Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 There we go again, we are still 5th. still in the play offs. well with manager that can't mix it up and keeps playing players out of position we wont be there much longer Remember pearson lovers we were sitting bloody 2nd not so long ago looking good playing good football. The team needed a good hard man in the middle but he couldnt see this but most of use could. And now teams know how to play us and it show's and that's where he fails, only on system of play. sorry nigel but i think you have fooked it up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 Remember pearson lovers we were sitting bloody 2nd not so long ago looking good playing good football. Remind me, who was the manager then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyrobot Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 To the staunch Pearsonites... Rather than coming on here and simply giving us the stock 'Pearson will turn it around' type comments, lets have an adult debate on what is wrong with the team at the moment. Because something is. And please don't start off with 'we are still 5th'... Yes I know that, but if we don't start improving we won't be for much longer. Ill start... I think there's not enough pace in the side. When coming forward we don't attack quickly enough and give the opposition time to get back behind the ball and to regroup. Personally I think we miss Lloyd Dyer's pace. Comments please if you can be bothered.. You call people who support the job Pearson is trying to do 'happy clappers' and then expect us to have an adult debate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry - LCFC Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 I'd say an inability to keep the ball on the ground, we look so much better when we pass it around. We're not doing that at the minute and we're not playing well as a result. For me, Pearson's quote sums it up nicely: "Our creativity and ability to take the chances that come our way have deserted us somewhat." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savillefoxes Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 Yes Pearson was the manager then, but you have to admit it's gone tits up since christmas. we were lucky to win against wolves and borough.We have been found out and this is were he fails by not being able to mix it up and playing under performing players week in and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 Yes Pearson was the manager then, but you have to admit it's gone tits up since christmas. we were lucky to win against wolves and borough.We have been found out and this is were he fails by not being able to mix it up and playing under performing players week in and out. I need to go to the doctors, could have sworn I saw us go eight games without defeat after Christmas. Prat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 9 March 2013 Author Share Posted 9 March 2013 You call people who support the job Pearson is trying to do 'happy clappers' and then expect us to have an adult debate? Well I didn't expect you to have an adult debate to be fair.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inckley fox Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 I need to go to the doctors, could have sworn I saw us go eight games without defeat after Christmas. Prat. Why are you so angry?! Our seventeen points from eleven games since Christmas, extrapolated over a whole season, would give you 71 points. Sometimes that would sneak you into the play-offs, sometimes it wouldn't. So even if we include that stunning run, we're still not necessarily good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 Why are you so angry?! Our seventeen points from eleven points since Christmas, extrapolated over a whole season, would give you 71 points. Sometimes that would sneak you into the play-offs, sometimes it wouldn't. So even if we include that stunning run, we're still not necessarily good enough. Because it makes people think that the run we've been on has gone on longer than it really has. The issues have not been there since Christmas, because we were superb throughout January, Pearson was manager of the month. The bad run has lasted little over a month, but suggesting it has been going on for three or four months makes it look like Pearson has failed to sort out any problems over that length of time which simply isn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savillefoxes Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 But only 6 in the league with 3 lucky wins in that.And like i said prat we were lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 And like i said prat we were lucky So when we win we we're lucky, when we lose it's because we've been found out. When can Pearson win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callabinho Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 Him......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mee-9 Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 Calling Pearson tactically inept is a compliment. It's far too generous a statement to make. We had a certain Hollowhead who insisted on playing Fryatt on the wing and now we see it with clueless Pearson. Tuesday night any old "clown" could see that the lineup was totally ineffective and yet Pearson sticks with the same for today's game. Pearson, who is the clown now eh? We look so restricted in the way we are playing and with the players we have at our disposal the blame firmly lies at the feet of Pearson imo, we are far far far better than the level of football Pearson's tactical decisions have made us. He's running out of time, the team is running out of games and I'm running out of patience. Sort it out. Couldn't agree more. The decision to play Nugent, Wood and Kane was a strange one on Tuesday. Nugent was injured, fair enough Kane hadn't been playing too bad, getting into decent positions, albeit missing a few sitters. Nugent should have worked his way back in. To begin with that same 3 today was terrible. Think it's the time for a change personally. Such a drab/unenthusiastic atmosphere around the club at the moment, we all pay money to be entertained. This isn't the case recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Ulike Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 As a "staunch Pearsonite" I feel well qualified to answer this one. The problem is that its men against boys - quite lidderally. Our team has too many fresh faced dandies, and not enough grizzled veterans. The balance is all wrong. Of todays Starting line ups, SWFC had 8 players over the age of 28. We had just one. Half of our outfield players are qualified to play for the U21s. Half of SWFCs team are 30- somethings. With the pressure now on, this difference is really starting to tell. We needed Nigel Reo Coker instead of Andy King, George Boyd instead of Harry Kane, and Kevin Davis on the bench, for example. Pearson has built a fantastic young team for the future, but the fans seem to want it now. Getting rid of such a talented young manager would be a big mistake. But next season he needs to supplement our undoubtedly gifted squad with a bit of rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 9 March 2013 Author Share Posted 9 March 2013 As a "staunch Pearsonite" I feel well qualified to answer this one. The problem is that its men against boys - quite lidderally. Our team has too many fresh faced dandies, and not enough grizzled veterans. The balance is all wrong. Of todays Starting line ups, SWFC had 8 players over the age of 28. We had just one. Half of our outfield players are qualified to play for the U21s. Half of SWFCs team are 30- somethings. With the pressure now on, this difference is really starting to tell. We needed Nigel Reo Coker instead of Andy King, George Boyd instead of Harry Kane, and Kevin Davis on the bench, for example. Pearson has built a fantastic young team for the future, but the fans seem to want it now. Getting rid of such a talented young manager would be a big mistake. But next season he needs to supplement our undoubtedly gifted squad with a bit of rough. Top post.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spittingfeathers Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 That Pearson bloke keeps picking Andy King & poor old Danny has to try to do all the work in midfield ...its all gone tits up since Matty James injury unfortunately ! That together with the amazing demise of Marshall and confining Knocky to the right wing ......oh and the fact that wev'e discovered Wood can't get off the ground and head a ball !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savillefoxes Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 yes we were winning and winning well. But at times you need to change it a bit and that is what he fails in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waller5 Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 I need to go to the doctors, could have sworn I saw us go eight games without defeat after Christmas. Prat. And since then you've seen 8 games with one win ..... and yet your opinion doesn't seem to change at all. I'd have a word with him about that whilst you're there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 And since then you've seen 8 games with one win ..... and yet your opinion doesn't seem to change at all. You're right. My opinion after the 8 games was, I wanted top six at the start of the season and we're in the top six. My opinion now is, I wanted top six at the start of the season and we're in the top six. You're very observant aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waller5 Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 You're right. My opinion after the 8 games was, I wanted top six at the start of the season and we're in the top six. My opinion now is, I wanted top six at the start of the season and we're in the top six. You're very observant aren't you? I admire you sticking by him Mrs Pearson. For me, 1 win in 8 and playing as badly as we are (and getting worse each game not better) it's time to be realistic and call a taxi for your hubby and making him a nice cup of tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 I admire you sticking by him Mrs Pearson. For me, 1 win in 8 and playing as badly as we are (and getting worse each game not better) it's time to be realistic and call a taxi for your hubby and making him a nice cup of tea. Observant and capable of rudimentary insults. You are clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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