Why do some people actually dislike Pearson as manager

[Guest Col city fan]

Well l would say during my years of supporting LCFC we have been about even, l regard us as a Prem club, and l don't give two fooks about people like you who make excuses for absolutely everything. l like winning, with my football team and everything else in life, losers are just lazy people, you seem like one of lifes losers.

I too find the acceptance of mediocrity staggering.

Just because we haven't been a 'big club' for many years doesn't mean we can't be. Given the bloody resources pumped in over the past few years we should have been at least contending.

The lack of ambition displayed by some is unreal.

[Guest MattP]

That's only 105 years??

 

Aren't we 126/7 years old now?? I wonder if there wasn't a second division for the first 20 years?

 

Weren't elected to the league until a while after we were founded though then add some seasons cancelled for the wars.

[MC Prussian]

You must be young -not so many years ago Newcastle stayed up in Div 2 by beating us and Man City were a third div team for a few years. Their respective fans demanded more and got it - too many City fans believe we are second rate. When I first supported Leicester we had several England internationals and finsihed top half Div 1 regularly

When's the last time we had an England International? Fifteen, twenty years ago?

 

Enjoy living in the past - I say, welcome to the future.

 

Oh, and at one point, Newcastle were close to a nothing club with a small stadium and poor attendance.

Manchester City stayed in the Third Division for how long? And are now back in the Premier League for how many years?

 

It wasn't their fans who made a difference, it was £££.

[MC Prussian]

Well l would say during my years of supporting LCFC we have been about even, l regard us as a Prem club, and l don't give two fooks about people like you who make excuses for absolutely everything. l like winning,  with my football team and everything else in life, losers are just lazy people, you seem like one of lifes losers.

Since when is stating facts "making excuses"?

 

Poor excuse from a man who offers little to no substance on a regular basis, so nothing new.

Is it because you were one of the few spoilt with so much top-flight experience in your lifetime? Congratulations, I envy you.

But just because you've been there doesn't mean we have the god-given right to return, we have to earn it.

 

I like winning, too. Sadly, there's about 23 other teams in the division we're in with the same intentions.

[seenitall]

When's the last time we had an England International? Fifteen, twenty years ago?

 

Enjoy living in the past - I say, welcome to the future.

 

Oh, and at one point, Newcastle were close to a nothing club with a small stadium and poor attendance.

Manchester City stayed in the Third Division for how long? And are now back in the Premier League for how many years?

 

It wasn't their fans who made a difference, it was £££.

Most of this is wrong (as usual)

Both Newcastle and Man City became Premier League clubs before their current owners took over. Their fans demanded and expected better things of them and their owners knew they had the following if they believed......we are a 32,000 supporters club when the team is right (there was even talk of another tier at Walkers to get more in once).

The club has been mismanaged at both board and team level for years - you accept it, I don't.

Can't be arsed to look it up but this has to be the longest out of the topflight in the last 50 years. Not acceptable for a team of our history, support and size.......it is only the acceptance by the beaten down supporters that allows it to be so...support the club not the idiots in charge, you are part of the problem otherwise

[5waller5]

When's the last time we had an England International? Fifteen, twenty years ago?

 

Enjoy living in the past - I say, welcome to the future.

 

Oh, and at one point, Newcastle were close to a nothing club with a small stadium and poor attendance.

Manchester City stayed in the Third Division for how long? And are now back in the Premier League for how many years?

 

It wasn't their fans who made a difference, it was £££.

 

 

 

Please please please ...... at least be somewhere near factually correct.

[5waller5]

Weren't elected to the league until a while after we were founded though then add some seasons cancelled for the wars.

 

 

Good post .... with this one i learned something.

[MC Prussian]

Most of this is wrong (as usual)

Both Newcastle and Man City became Premier League clubs before their current owners took over. Their fans demanded and expected better things of them and their owners knew they had the following if they believed......we are a 32,000 supporters club when the team is right (there was even talk of another tier at Walkers to get more in once).

The club has been mismanaged at both board and team level for years - you accept it, I don't.

Can't be arsed to look it up but this has to be the longest out of the topflight in the last 50 years. Not acceptable for a team of our history, support and size.......it is only the acceptance by the beaten down supporters that allows it to be so...support the club not the idiots in charge, you are part of the problem otherwise

Thanks for not actually replying to what I had posted initially. I was talking about Newcastle at one point having been a nothing club, smaller in size than Leicester with Filbert Street (all leading up to the late 80ies, before they moved to St. James' Park).

Newcastle's stadium was in parts modernized thanks to the money earned from the first few years in the top flight.

The owners saw the PL deal and the £££ connected and with relegation avoided for several years, could plan for the long-term.

 

I don't accept mismanagement, and again, I wasn't talking about it previously. Actually, I have mentioned on numerous occasions that I'm not a happy bunny when it comes to the money thrown around in the past five to ten years (or the lack thereof, see Milan Mandaric).

 

Since when is the absence from the top-flight an issue? Just because some fans in their mind are convinced we belong in the Premier League doesn't change a thing. The present is now and here. And as long as some fans put more effort reminiscing and being bitter about what could've been and should've been, the longer we're stuck with the past in the present. How about making yourself more vocal during the upcoming season? If you're really that passionate, why not invest more energy in supporting your team on the pitch?

[BNET]

Since when is stating facts "making excuses"?

 

Poor excuse from a man who offers little to no substance on a regular basis, so nothing new.

Is it because you were one of the few spoilt with so much top-flight experience in your lifetime? Congratulations, I envy you.

But just because you've been there doesn't mean we have the god-given right to return, we have to earn it.

 

I like winning, too. Sadly, there's about 23 other teams in the division we're in with the same intentions.

You make excuses for everything, are you just an idiot who likes to argue with everything, even if you know you are wrong and don't mind making a fool of yourself in doing so. You quote facts that are wrong, you misquote, you spent your time writing a long post asking questions that l could drill holes in, but l didn't think it was worth wasting my time replying to someone who will never accept anything if its not the same as your stand point. "l'm one of the spoilt few" you stupid tw at, WHO  said we have a god given right ? you my friend are one of the biggest idiots ever to post on a message board. 

[5waller5]

Thanks for not actually replying to what I had posted initially. I was talking about Newcastle at one point having been a nothing club, smaller in size than Leicester with Filbert Street (all leading up to the late 80ies, before they moved to St. James' Park).

Newcastle's stadium was in parts modernized thanks to the money earned from the first few years in the top flight.

The owners saw the PL deal and the £££ connected and with relegation avoided for several years, could plan for the long-term.

 

I don't accept mismanagement, and again, I wasn't talking about it previously. Actually, I have mentioned on numerous occasions that I'm not a happy bunny when it comes to the money thrown around in the past five to ten years (or the lack thereof, see Milan Mandaric).

 

Since when is the absence from the top-flight an issue? Just because some fans in their mind are convinced we belong in the Premier League doesn't change a thing. The present is now and here. And as long as some fans put more effort reminiscing and being bitter about what could've been and should've been, the longer we're stuck with the past in the present. How about making yourself more vocal during the upcoming season? If you're really that passionate, why not invest more energy in supporting your team on the pitch?

 

 

Newcastle have always played at St James Park.

 

Up until seating being introduced they had a capacity of 60,000 from 1905 at St James Park.

[MC Prussian]

You make excuses for everything, are you just an idiot who likes to argue with everything, even if you know you are wrong and don't mind making a fool of yourself in doing so. You quote facts that are wrong, you misquote, you spent your time writing a long post asking questions that l could drill holes in, but l didn't think it was worth wasting my time replying to someone who will never accept anything if its not the same as your stand point. "l'm one of the spoilt few" you stupid tw at, WHO  said we have a god given right ? you my friend are one of the biggest idiots ever to post on a message board. 

I see you enjoy wasting your time replying to "one of the biggest idiots ever to post on a message board".

 

Spot the irony?

[MC Prussian]

Newcastle have always played at St James Park.

 

Up until seating being introduced they had a capacity of 60,000 from 1905 at St James Park.

I meant the move to the refurbished St. James' Park, but apologies for not being clear enough.

 

And some of Newcastle's attendances in the 80ies and early 90ies were poor (compared to the size of the fanbase) or are changes of 5'000 to 6'000 spectators from one season to the other peanuts?

 

 

[seenitall]

Thanks for not actually replying to what I had posted initially. I was talking about Newcastle at one point having been a nothing club, smaller in size than Leicester with Filbert Street (all leading up to the late 80ies, before they moved to St. James' Park).

Newcastle's stadium was in parts modernized thanks to the money earned from the first few years in the top flight.

The owners saw the PL deal and the £££ connected and with relegation avoided for several years, could plan for the long-term.

 

I don't accept mismanagement, and again, I wasn't talking about it previously. Actually, I have mentioned on numerous occasions that I'm not a happy bunny when it comes to the money thrown around in the past five to ten years (or the lack thereof, see Milan Mandaric).

 

Since when is the absence from the top-flight an issue? Just because some fans in their mind are convinced we belong in the Premier League doesn't change a thing. The present is now and here. And as long as some fans put more effort reminiscing and being bitter about what could've been and should've been, the longer we're stuck with the past in the present. How about making yourself more vocal during the upcoming season? If you're really that passionate, why not invest more energy in supporting your team on the pitch?

Hmmmm, i run the risk of upsetting the admin here, but this is so not answering my point either.

Supporting the team is not something you can lecture other fans on - most of us have our own relationship with the club on many different levels and based on different historical factors, emotional practical reasons.

The 'you don't support us because you are not happy with the way things are' gang are among the most obnoxious to respond to on this board.....it always elicits angry responses and rightly so.

Although both the teams mentioned are now considered big clubs, please try to accept that they had their troubles but came out of them and their fans always believed they would and wanted the best for their club.

This is all I want, I probably won't shut up until the corners turned. Who is the real Leicester fan? I reclaim that position from the mediocrity club....you try supporting the club.

[BNET]

I see you enjoy wasting your time replying to "one of the biggest idiots ever to post on a message board".

 

Spot the irony?

Read my post again, and then tell me what l said about replying to your LONG post !

 

You can't even hold a conversation without misunderstanding almost everything anyone says.

 

Now have a think about "spot the irony" you plum.

[MC Prussian]

Hmmmm, i run the risk of upsetting the admin here, but this is so not answering my point either.

Supporting the team is not something you can lecture other fans on - most of us have our own relationship with the club on many different levels and based on different historical factors, emotional practical reasons.

The 'you don't support us because you are not happy with the way things are' gang are among the most obnoxious to respond to on this board.....it always elicits angry responses and rightly so.

Although both the teams mentioned are now considered big clubs, please try to accept that they had their troubles but came out of them and their fans always believed they would and wanted the best for their club.

This is all I want, I probably won't shut up until the corners turned. Who is the real Leicester fan? I reclaim that position from the mediocrity club....you try supporting the club.

I don't see how whinging and moaning equals "supporting your club". I understand that there needs to be a space to place your doubts and express your discontent, but to me there's just so much negativity you can bear.

And more negativity breeds more negativity.

 

I understand that we're all passionate about football and about Leicester City FC in particular. That's great.

But to me, it seems the precious memories of the past are often mingled with an unrealistic demand for instant success, because the ones demanding it have been used to it for too long and took it for granted.

I want this club to perform well, too. But I don't see how constant complaints are going to change anything in the near or far future. Has it ever in the past?

So, coming back to Newcastle and Manchester City, even if we go with the argument that the fans always had the notion they'd go places - why are you and some of your compatriots the first ones to dissect and attack everything that the club does or the manager says?

It's as if you've gotten so accustomed to previous successes that you've failed to realize you're in a personal war zone.

 

I never claimed to be a "real" Leicester fan and I'm not always happy with the way things are going. I'm not an eternal optimist or on a mission sponsored by the club. I've been through some of the worst times this club has ever seen and some of the more nicer times.

I'm a fan of this club because I support the underdog. We've always played to our best strengths in that role, built on a solid team with little to no big names.

The season ahead and the current squad have so much in common with the Leicester of the past, the indicators of the past - so why don't you take your experience, realize this and support this team to the best of hearts?

[MC Prussian]

Read my post again, and then tell me what l said about replying to your LONG post !

 

You can't even hold a conversation without misunderstanding almost everything anyone says.

 

Now have a think about "spot the irony" you plum.

If ever you would take the time and effort to make an impact instead of resorting to the use of swear words and personal insults.

 

It would also help if you could start a conversation, instead of starting an argument or making assumptions about people you don't know.

 

You offer little to nothing apart from angry ramblings, criticizing anyone who exposes you for your lack of effort and your unwillingness to participate in a proper debate.

The vast majority of your posts are one-sided and you leave no stone untouched to make it clear to anybody how much you hate the current manager, because that's all you ever talk about.

[fleckneymike]

I don't see how whinging and moaning equals "supporting your club". I understand that there needs to be a space to place your doubts and express your discontent, but to me there's just so much negativity you can bear.

And more negativity breeds more negativity.

 

I understand that we're all passionate about football and about Leicester City FC in particular. That's great.

But to me, it seems the precious memories of the past are often mingled with an unrealistic demand for instant success, because the ones demanding it have been used to it for too long and took it for granted.

I want this club to perform well, too. But I don't see how constant complaints are going to change anything in the near or far future. Has it ever in the past?

So, coming back to Newcastle and Manchester City, even if we go with the argument that the fans always had the notion they'd go places - why are you and some of your compatriots the first ones to dissect and attack everything that the club does or the manager says?

It's as if you've gotten so accustomed to previous successes that you've failed to realize you're in a personal war zone.

 

I never claimed to be a "real" Leicester fan and I'm not always happy with the way things are going. I'm not an eternal optimist or on a mission sponsored by the club. I've been through some of the worst times this club has ever seen and some of the more nicer times.

I'm a fan of this club because I support the underdog. We've always played to our best strengths in that role, built on a solid team with little to no big names.

The season ahead and the current squad have so much in common with the Leicester of the past, the indicators of the past - so why don't you take your experience, realize this and support this team to the best of hearts?

 

Could you provide us with an example of a 'succesful' club who haven't experienced immediate success? I'm genuinely struggling to think of a Prem side who spent years under a manager building towards promotion.

[MC Prussian]

Could you provide us with an example of a 'succesful' club who haven't experienced immediate success? I'm genuinely struggling to think of a Prem side who spent years under a manager building towards promotion.

That's because you can't get promoted from the Premier League. 

[fleckneymike]

That's because you can't get promoted from the Premier League. 

 

but you can get promoted into it (which I believe is the aim of many on here).

[MC Prussian]

but you can get promoted into it (which I believe is the aim of many on here).

Mmhh... Coming back to your initial question - out of the previous or current Championship clubs, maybe Cardiff? And Watford seem to be working on it, too.

 

Depends on how you define "successful" - in the past, Stoke worked their way up by building on a solid basis in terms of player material and finances (as far as I can tell). They may not be successful in terms of Top Ten finishes in the top flight, but they've played in Europe in recent years.

Much like we did about a decade ago.

[tylesta]

Thanks for not actually replying to what I had posted initially. I was talking about Newcastle at one point having been a nothing club, smaller in size than Leicester with Filbert Street (all leading up to the late 80ies, before they moved to St. James' Park).

Newcastle's stadium was in parts modernized thanks to the money earned from the first few years in the top flight.

The owners saw the PL deal and the £££ connected and with relegation avoided for several years, could plan for the long-term.

 

I don't accept mismanagement, and again, I wasn't talking about it previously. Actually, I have mentioned on numerous occasions that I'm not a happy bunny when it comes to the money thrown around in the past five to ten years (or the lack thereof, see Milan Mandaric).

 

Since when is the absence from the top-flight an issue? Just because some fans in their mind are convinced we belong in the Premier League doesn't change a thing. The present is now and here. And as long as some fans put more effort reminiscing and being bitter about what could've been and should've been, the longer we're stuck with the past in the present. How about making yourself more vocal during the upcoming season? If you're really that passionate, why not invest more energy in supporting your team on the pitch?

newcastle have played at st james park since 1892

[BNET]

I don't see how whinging and moaning equals "supporting your club". I understand that there needs to be a space to place your doubts and express your discontent, but to me there's just so much negativity you can bear.

And more negativity breeds more negativity.

 

I understand that we're all passionate about football and about Leicester City FC in particular. That's great.

But to me, it seems the precious memories of the past are often mingled with an unrealistic demand for instant success, because the ones demanding it have been used to it for too long and took it for granted.

I want this club to perform well, too. But I don't see how constant complaints are going to change anything in the near or far future. Has it ever in the past?

So, coming back to Newcastle and Manchester City, even if we go with the argument that the fans always had the notion they'd go places - why are you and some of your compatriots the first ones to dissect and attack everything that the club does or the manager says?

It's as if you've gotten so accustomed to previous successes that you've failed to realize you're in a personal war zone.

 

I never claimed to be a "real" Leicester fan and I'm not always happy with the way things are going. I'm not an eternal optimist or on a mission sponsored by the club. I've been through some of the worst times this club has ever seen and some of the more nicer times.

I'm a fan of this club because I support the underdog. We've always played to our best strengths in that role, built on a solid team with little to no big names.

The season ahead and the current squad have so much in common with the Leicester of the past, the indicators of the past - so why don't you take your experience, realize this and support this team to the best of hearts?

What a load of gash !

[MC Prussian]

What a load of gash !

At least my gash has substance.

EDIT: Okay, most of it does.

[fleckneymike]

Mmhh... Coming back to your initial question - out of the previous or current Championship clubs, maybe Cardiff? And Watford seem to be working on it, too.

 

Depends on how you define "successful" - in the past, Stoke worked their way up by building on a solid basis in terms of player material and finances (as far as I can tell). They may not be successful in terms of Top Ten finishes in the top flight, but they've played in Europe in recent years.

Much like we did about a decade ago.

I think even Pulis did it in two (as did Mackay). Instant is pretty much the 'norm' when it comes to promotion.

[Tielemans63]

At least my gash has substance.

You should get that seen to. Could be a nasty case of blue waffle.