AS78UK Posted 6 October 2013 Posted 6 October 2013 Hart Walker - Cahill - Jagielka - Cole Gerrard - Lampard/Carrick Walcott - Rooney - Welbeck/OVB Sturridge Worrying that the squad lacks any decent wingers, glad we have both Sturridge and Rooney on decent form heading into the games.
Corky Posted 6 October 2013 Posted 6 October 2013 Anyone watching Norwich v Chelsea? Ruddy made two utter howlers in the first half, couldn't even catch the ball on 2 simple over the top balls. But because he's not Hart and he only plays for Norwich most people won't hear about it as he doesn't get the same scrutiny Hart does. This is why I'd start Hart in these two matches even though Hart's on a run of poor form. Don't want a Scott Carson repeat... EDIT: 3 now; and the last one's just cost them a goal. We do have a tendancy to put our best players down. Hart is fine.
Uncle Albert Posted 6 October 2013 Author Posted 6 October 2013 Ben Foster is the only credible replacement but even the he shouldn't get a look in. He shouldn't you right especially when he is injured..
Guest ttfn Posted 7 October 2013 Posted 7 October 2013 Good old patriotic Arry ranting about how he should have got the job just before 2 crucial games.
Finnegan Posted 7 October 2013 Posted 7 October 2013 What a cvnt. Read that on the beeb, makes him sound an enormous, bitter tool. You'd think he was Ferguson the way he talks about himself.
21st Century Fox Posted 7 October 2013 Posted 7 October 2013 "This isn't about them giving the England job to me or Roy Hodgson..." Of course not Harry, of course not..... "Everyone said I was the people's choice, the only choice. All the senior players seemed to be up for me to get the job." Here, fill your boots Harry....
Uncle Albert Posted 7 October 2013 Author Posted 7 October 2013 He's right though, I'm not even much of a fan of Harry Redknapp but he's right when he says Hodgson was an FA man.
Guest ttfn Posted 7 October 2013 Posted 7 October 2013 He's right though, I'm not even much of a fan of Harry Redknapp but he's right when he says Hodgson was an FA man. Im not really sure what you think that means. Hodgson was infinitely better qualified than Redknapp.
Uncle Albert Posted 7 October 2013 Author Posted 7 October 2013 Better qualified? Please explain.. Last time Hodgson won anything was League title in Denmark 12 years ago. Like I said I'm not even much of a Redknapp fan but he was the obvious choice, the players clearly wanted him to be the manager as he says, Gerrard, Terry and Cole all messaged him. Redknapp would of installed a lot more pride to the national team, has Roy the Boy done that yet in his tenure? I don't think so.
Jon the Hat Posted 7 October 2013 Posted 7 October 2013 Better qualified? Please explain.. Last time Hodgson won anything was League title in Denmark 12 years ago. Like I said I'm not even much of a Redknapp fan but he was the obvious choice, the players clearly wanted him to be the manager as he says, Gerrard, Terry and Cole all messaged him. Redknapp would of installed a lot more pride to the national team, has Roy the Boy done that yet in his tenure? I don't think so. And Harry won what exactly? The FA cup by nearly taking Pompey out of existence? Nice one.
21st Century Fox Posted 7 October 2013 Posted 7 October 2013 Also the fact he wanted to bring in Rodgers as his coach speaks volumes, even he knows he isn't the most tactically adept manager and needed Rodgers to cover his arse while he'd be leaning out of his car window taking the credit and charming the media.
Guest MattP Posted 7 October 2013 Posted 7 October 2013 Told you all before the only reason Hodgson got employed was so him and Bernstein could visit all theHolocaust sites and tour all the Jewish quarters in Poland and Ukraine.
Uncle Albert Posted 7 October 2013 Author Posted 7 October 2013 And Harry won what exactly? The FA cup by nearly taking Pompey out of existence? Nice one. For the 3rd time, I don't really rate Redknapp either, I would just have rather of had him than Hodgson, that's my opinion. Neither are qualified to have the job but I don't see how anyone can say Hodgson is better qualified than Redknapp, when neither have done anything post millennium of any significance.
Corky Posted 7 October 2013 Posted 7 October 2013 Better qualified? Please explain.. Last time Hodgson won anything was League title in Denmark 12 years ago. Like I said I'm not even much of a Redknapp fan but he was the obvious choice, the players clearly wanted him to be the manager as he says, Gerrard, Terry and Cole all messaged him. Redknapp would of installed a lot more pride to the national team, has Roy the Boy done that yet in his tenure? I don't think so. Hodgson does have previous international management experience, that might have given him an edge when selecting.
Super_horns Posted 7 October 2013 Posted 7 October 2013 I am not sure its the best of timing as now the press as going to be asking the players how they feel about having Hodgson as a manager rather than Redknapp when we should just be concentrating on the game. Mind you people don't care about that if they have a book to sell. Harry might be a better motivator but if England players need motivation to even turn up and play for the country then that is the start of our problems!
Uncle Albert Posted 7 October 2013 Author Posted 7 October 2013 Hodgson does have previous international management experience, that might have given him an edge when selecting. Yeah granted but managing Switzerland in the 90s, UAE and Finland in the mid 00's doesn't to me put you ahead of Redknapp but then again I'm not on the FA. I also don't think that was the reason the FA decided on Hodgson over Redknapp, you would be very naïve not see Hodgson is nothing more than a yes man, remember the reason Capello left England? Because the FA stripped John Terry of the England captaincy which is up to the manager to decide on who is his captain, do you think Redknapp would of accepted that same kind of treatment? Not a chance but Roy would.
21st Century Fox Posted 7 October 2013 Posted 7 October 2013 Hodgson also gets involved at St Georges Park, he's also been part of UEFA and FIFA technical studies. Harry wouldn't budge from Sandbanks unless he had to.
Uncle Albert Posted 7 October 2013 Author Posted 7 October 2013 Do them technical studies include squad selection and the inclusion of James Milner and Tom Cleverley?
marko Posted 7 October 2013 Posted 7 October 2013 Do them technical studies include squad selection and the inclusion of James Milner and Tom Cleverley? You forgot Raheem Sterling from that list.
21st Century Fox Posted 7 October 2013 Posted 7 October 2013 Do them technical studies include squad selection and the inclusion of James Milner and Tom Cleverley? The point being, of the two candidates, you can see the logic in appointing the one with a grounding and experience in International Football and would get involved in the entire England set-up from the ground-up. Harry and Rodgers would've made the ultimate Snake Oil Merchant's dream team though.
Guest ttfn Posted 7 October 2013 Posted 7 October 2013 Can't remember Harry reaching any European finals either. Hodgson is, has been and always will be better qualified to manage England than Redknapp. He's: Got international experience Won more Been more successful in European competition Not got a cloud of corruption hovering over him at every turn. Redknapp's a complete embarrassment.
Uncle Albert Posted 7 October 2013 Author Posted 7 October 2013 You forgot Raheem Sterling from that list. What when he's in the Under 21's?
marko Posted 7 October 2013 Posted 7 October 2013 The point being, of the two candidates, you can see the logic in appointing the one with a grounding and experience in International Football and would get involved in the entire England set-up from the ground-up. Harry and Rodgers would've made the ultimate Snake Oil Merchant's dream team though. I also think Roy is better at working with the players he's got in front of him, so to speak. He did very well at Fulham in keeping them up with a fairly poor squad and then performed a minor miracle in reaching the final of the Europa League. To me it always seems like media darling 'arry needs to spend an absolute fortune to achieve anything, which is a luxury he wouldn't have in the England job. What when he's in the Under 21's? No, I was thinking the Sweden game.
Uncle Albert Posted 7 October 2013 Author Posted 7 October 2013 No, I was thinking the Sweden game. Oh right, so you're referring to Hodgson picking a player who was in form for a friendly 7 months ago? Who also isn't in the squad now but you thought that was a good example because what, I'm a Liverpool fan? Good logic that, very good.
Finnegan Posted 7 October 2013 Posted 7 October 2013 Being Gerrard, Lampard and Terry's first choice is exactly why he shouldn't have got it. You need to phase the old guard out and blood some yoot, not pick them because they're your mates.
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