LCCFox96 Posted 13 January 2014 Posted 13 January 2014 Ladbrokes for not making us favourites for promotion at the start of the year for a change. In all seriousness, whilst we are still on unfinished business the strides forward the club have taken this year in both quality of performances to leadership decisions right the way up from NP, Walsh and Shakespeare to Top and Vichai have been exemplary so far. We have really come together well this year and performed as a whole club. Also a big shout out for Steve beaglehole and the academy who I think got category 1 academy status. Not necessarily affecting the first team but a big indicator of progress at grass roots level within the club and Leicestershire.
hackneyfox Posted 13 January 2014 Posted 13 January 2014 Nige. He's the manager. He get's the credit when we win, just like he takes the stick when we lose. I agree. You could well credit Vardy and Drinky for their improvements this year but ultimately Pearson was the one who allowed them to improve for us rather than moving them on. The mans a legend. It all depends upon who you blamed last season. Many on here wouldn't hear a word against NFP and blamed it on the players, so it seems only fair they should credit the players this season. I blamed NFP so at the moment I'm thinking of eating a large portion of humble pie. It's still too early to assume anything, we're looking like certainties for promotion at the moment but it could yet go wrong. Should w get promotion then it'll be down to the whole club from owners through management to players.
ealingfox Posted 13 January 2014 Posted 13 January 2014 Football success is not about feelings or appearances it's about achievements and so far we've "won/achieved" nothing other than the considerable respect of our opponents, which I by no means dismiss. Actually we've won 17 of our 25 matches thus far, 3 more than anyone else, and have achieved 1st place at this stage of the season. It all depends upon who you blamed last season. Many on here wouldn't hear a word against NFP and blamed it on the players, so it seems only fair they should credit the players this season. I blamed NFP so at the moment I'm thinking of eating a large portion of humble pie. Except that didn't happen, at all. There are no posters on this forum who didn't place at least some of the blame for the horror run on NP. That is a fact. It was repeated several million times by me and others during and after the run, and it's astonishing that you haven't absorbed it yet.
hackneyfox Posted 13 January 2014 Posted 13 January 2014 Actually we've won 17 of our 25 matches thus far, 3 more than anyone else, and have achieved 1st place at this stage of the season. Except that didn't happen, at all. There are no posters on this forum who didn't place at least some of the blame for the horror run on NP. That is a fact. It was repeated several million times by me and others during and after the run, and it's astonishing that you haven't absorbed it yet. We'll agree to disagree then. There are plenty on here that seem to be fans of NFP before the club. there were plenty on here who just wouldn't blame NFP for last seasons terrible run(s).
ealingfox Posted 13 January 2014 Posted 13 January 2014 We'll agree to disagree then. There are plenty on here that seem to be fans of NFP before the club. there were plenty on here who just wouldn't blame NFP for last seasons terrible run(s). We can agree that I'm right, and you are not? You're bordering on delusion here. Give me usernames. Who on here thinks Pearson is bigger than the Club? Who wouldn't give him any of the blame? I myself am a big NP fan, and stuck with him as diligently as I could during the second half of last season. I am fully aware that he was significantly at fault for what happened. The point that was made throughout is that he was not solely at fault.
hackneyfox Posted 13 January 2014 Posted 13 January 2014 I've highlighted a few recently who have mentioned that should Pearson leave they'd never go back to the KP. I can't remeber just how diligently you stuck with him, but there were a fair few, perhaps including yourself, who couldn't bring themselves to admit that he might have been fukcing things up until we were well into that awful run. I've never been a fan of Pearson or the football his teams of the past have produced, I'm changing my mind about that this season and have admiited it so I'm not sure why you're being so argumentative or aggressive, perhaps this was your attitude last season when someone questioned NFP in which case ..... Proclaiming yourself to be the boo boy slayer does tend to show you as being perhaps overly positive. I see myself as realistic, I'm sure you think I'm negative, differing views make boards like this interesting.
ealingfox Posted 13 January 2014 Posted 13 January 2014 I've highlighted a few recently who have mentioned that should Pearson leave they'd never go back to the KP. I can't remeber just how diligently you stuck with him, but there were a fair few, perhaps including yourself, who couldn't bring themselves to admit that he might have been fukcing things up until we were well into that awful run. I've never been a fan of Pearson or the football his teams of the past have produced, I'm changing my mind about that this season and have admiited it so I'm not sure why you're being so argumentative or aggressive, perhaps this was your attitude last season when someone questioned NFP in which case ..... Proclaiming yourself to be the boo boy slayer does tend to show you as being perhaps overly positive. I see myself as realistic, I'm sure you think I'm negative, differing views make boards like this interesting. ... In the context of him getting us promoted and then not having his contract renewed, understandable. Otherwise, I don't think that's true at all. And again, it just is completely and utterly false that there is/was anyone that wouldn't admit NP was at least partly at fault for the run. Please just accept it, it is a fact. I'm being argumentative, not aggressive, over last season, not over the state of play now as we haven't done the job yet, because I'm sick to the back teeth of the nonsense that I called you out on originally being peddled, and I just cannot believe it's still being done. Again, you're missing a fundamental point, that being realistic and being positive are reconcilable. I am about as realistic as they come, I am chuffed to bits with the season so far but hopes will not be officially up for a long while yet.
hackneyfox Posted 13 January 2014 Posted 13 January 2014 I really can't be bothered to trawl through old posts, I know what I read last season and what a few others have posted this season but obviously I'm wrong because you've said I am. "nI'm being argumentative, not aggressive, over last season, not over the state of play now as we haven't done the job yet, because I'm sick to the back teeth of the nonsense that I called you out on originally being peddled, and I just cannot believe it's still being done." Well if that's you being argumentative and not aggressive ..... Everyone believes they are realistic, I see you as being extremely positive when it comes to NFP to the extent that you've stated above that it's 'understandable' that people wouldn't renew STs should NFP not have his contract renewed should we get promoted. It's the club for me before any player or manager, I certainly don't see it as 'understandable' to stop supporting the team because an individual has left. The club will be here long after the manager and all the players have left, so will the real fans.
Corky Posted 13 January 2014 Posted 13 January 2014 It all depends upon who you blamed last season. Many on here wouldn't hear a word against NFP and blamed it on the players, so it seems only fair they should credit the players this season. I blamed NFP so at the moment I'm thinking of eating a large portion of humble pie. It's still too early to assume anything, we're looking like certainties for promotion at the moment but it could yet go wrong. Should w get promotion then it'll be down to the whole club from owners through management to players. I blamed both, Pearson made some bizarre team selections (Kane on the left of midfield, for instance) and set us up to play hoofball to Wood who didn't jump for anything. He also got us to the top playing attractive, flowing football and seemed to go against that principle and tried to consolidate rather than be expansive. The players though made some individual errors that were not management fault. Nugent v Birmingham in the last minute, St Ledger at Cardiff in the last minute, the defenders not bothering to mark opponents in the penalty area at Derby, Drinkwater trying to be too clever (in the end reckless) in playing across our area instead of clearing it v Charlton. So, Pearson deserves credit for sticking with these players and adding experienced players, for believing in Vardy who has contributed so much, for rotating when required and making us tougher on the road and returning to playing attacking football. Also the players have not had a hangover, Drinkwater has shown superb form, Vardy's been a revelation, Dyer is playing out of his skin currently. What we need to do now is keep believing in what we are doing because so far it's working and working well.
FoxTrott Posted 13 January 2014 Posted 13 January 2014 This season so far: hard graft (players), team spirit (players & managerial staff), mental strength (players & managerial staff), strong squad (manager, staff and the board) and the secret ingredient, a little bit of luck.
ealingfox Posted 13 January 2014 Posted 13 January 2014 I really can't be bothered to trawl through old posts, I know what I read last season and what a few others have posted this season but obviously I'm wrong because you've said I am. "nI'm being argumentative, not aggressive, over last season, not over the state of play now as we haven't done the job yet, because I'm sick to the back teeth of the nonsense that I called you out on originally being peddled, and I just cannot believe it's still being done." Well if that's you being argumentative and not aggressive ..... Everyone believes they are realistic, I see you as being extremely positive when it comes to NFP to the extent that you've stated above that it's 'understandable' that people wouldn't renew STs should NFP not have his contract renewed should we get promoted. It's the club for me before any player or manager, I certainly don't see it as 'understandable' to stop supporting the team because an individual has left. The club will be here long after the manager and all the players have left, so will the real fans. You're wrong because you're wrong, not just because I say so. Don't bother looking through old posts, you won't find what you are looking for. There are no Leicester fans who think Pearson doesn't deserve any of the blame for Feb-April last season. Yes, it is being argumentative and not aggressive. No aggression from me pal, just trying to make you see reason. There's also a significant difference between not renewing your ST, and stopping supporting the Club altogether.
hackneyfox Posted 13 January 2014 Posted 13 January 2014 Sorry but there were people who almost right to the end of that run wouldn't blame NFP. At what point did you admit he may have to shoulder some of the blame? Anyone that threatens to not buy a ST (I believe one poster mentioned never going to the KP again) because NFP has gone gives the apperance of supporting him more than the club and look a bit of a berk imo. You seem very sensitive about this.
Guest MattP Posted 13 January 2014 Posted 13 January 2014 The owners deserve credit for sticking with him. But Nigel, Shakey and Walshie deserve everything that's coming to them. They have dismantled a squad full of overpaid overrated mercenaries and moulded a squad full talented players desperate to play in the premiwr league. They have given us a team to be proud of.
ealingfox Posted 13 January 2014 Posted 13 January 2014 It goes without saying. Whenever we lose I place at least some of the blame on him, he's the manager for gods sake. So even at the start of the bad run I knew he had to accept some of the blame if we missed out on promotion. The divisive point was people saying he should take all the blame because he was solely at fault, which was bollocks, and that he's a shit manager etc etc, which is also bollocks. It's hardly sensitive, just very tedious explaining something so simple so many times, only for it to continually fall on deaf ears.
Dickov22 Posted 13 January 2014 Posted 13 January 2014 Nigel Pearson, Craig Shakespeare and Steve Walsh.
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