AndWhat? Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 If there is overcrowding and people spilling into the aisles, which will ultimately lead to the club and other supporters getting pissed off, why don't you just move to an area of the ground where there's loads of free seats? That was one of the emptiest areas of the ground. At the minute with us getting bigger crowds there isn't really a big empty area anymore.
Basingstoke Fox Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 A couple of really good posts here from Kitchandro and FS on here. I'm glad this threads been created because some of this stuff needed to be said now so we can plan this more moving forwards. Initially, the idea was to be doing the Charlton game and then the plan was to be doing the same again for Sheffield Wednesday and QPR if I remember correctly. Then, it got changed to be going all out for every game. This was down to the success of the Charlton game and I can completely understand it, although it was slightly short notice for some people. I think the problem with the last couple of games (particularly Yeovil) has been organisation. As FS has pointed out, when we played Charlton, we pretty much had a defined area of the ground where we were going to be. This was decided early on to ensure that everyone who wanted to re-locate there and sing for 90 minutes could do so and we would all be in one area. For whatever reason, we haven't really had that since. I think this is down to a combination of people having fairly short notice in comparison to the Charlton game, people being unable to make it to certain games due to where they live / work, etc. and also people already having other plans for the games. I think the last point could perhaps be helped with more efficient planning ourselves. As has been pointed out by AndWhat?, the ground and this area of SK1 is more full than usual, which is natural what with the team doing so well (also there was a ticket promotion on for the Yeovil game). I think that we can all agree that while the Blackpool game was encouraging in parts, we were too spread out. As for the Yeovil game, it was an issue with the numbers who attended and for the people that were there, everyone was too spread out (I could see this when chatting to a couple of the lads there at half time). Addiitonally, fans who wanted to join in were unable to move to that part of the ground what with it being much more full than usual. This can be avoided by anyone who wants to be a part of this group and give it their all for 90 minutes planning this earlier, with every one of the members booking enough time in advance to all be congregated in the same area of the ground. I'm an example of one of the people who could've organised this better. I re-located for the Blackpool game on the day of the game but didn't for the Yeovil game (I was again planning to do this on the day of the game, but then didn't have time what with work and then travelling up, sod calling an 0844 number from my mobile for 30 minutes in the car!). Next season certainly sounds promising with a defined area being set for us, that really is superb news and I'd really like to thank the club for being so co-operative with this and FS for working on that with the club. However in the meantime, I think that we need to have a plan for the rest of this season. There's a good core of us supporters in that general area of the ground and I think we need to all be in one place to ensure that we can really give it our all towards the end of the season. If we can make it really good for the Sheffield Wednesday game, we may be able to attract more fans for the remaining home games too, which in turn will hopefully attract more like minded fans to re-locate here for next season too. I'd suggest that moving forwards, we should book our tickets for this area of the ground for any remaining fixtures that we're planning to attend ASAP. There's a decent number of available seats in the 17-29, FF-PP area that we should hopefully have for next season and I think that if we book seats in that area now, we can avoid them being taken up nearer to the day of the game by other people who perhaps don't want to scream and shout for 90 minutes. It'll also help to avoid the issue with too many people standing on aisles / stairways because it will have been organised more efficiently. If we run out of seats in that area, we can then spill over into the sections to the left and right of it, like we did for Charlton. Once we're all congregated in the same part of the ground, we can then start to worry about what songs we're singing. Who's copying different teams, what sounds good, what sounds sh*t, what songs are traditional, what songs are tinpot etc. etc. At least we'll all be in the same part of the ground singing it together!
Aeropars Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 Christ on a bike. Is it wrong to go to the football to actually watch the game these days?!
Soup Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 Christ on a bike. Is it wrong to go to the football to actually watch the game these days?! Just pictured him on a BMX,but instead of a helmet he's got that thorn thing on his head.
Silverdaz Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 Shouldnt watching the football be the main thing at football matches as its somehow called a football match and not a singing match
purpleronnie Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 Shouldnt watching the football be the main thing at football matches as its somehow called a football match and not a singing match For some yes, imagine the concept that people go to a game for different reasons, amazing right?
blue army 1988 Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 So is the filbo spirit group now union fs or are they 2 seperate groups?
Silverdaz Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 For some yes, imagine the concept that people go to a game for different reasons, amazing right? Truly amazing
MATLCFC Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 Enjoyed reading this thread some great points made. It will grow it will just take time as said above. Stick with it guys :scarf:
Dan Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 Christ on a bike. Is it wrong to go to the football to actually watch the game these days?! No-one's said that.
Basingstoke Fox Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 Christ on a bike. Is it wrong to go to the football to actually watch the game these days?! Well no, but this area is for anybody who wants to go to watch the game AND sing for their team. The other 99% of the ground is for just watching the game (though a percentage of that is accommodated by the away fans admittedly).
C-man Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 So is the filbo spirit group now union fs or are they 2 seperate groups? Filbo Spirit is the name of the fanzine on the website. The group behind the fanzine are Union FS. Agree that they should change their name on here though, just makes it confusing.
Kitchandro Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 Kitch, I'll leave someone else to answer your questions, but which one are you? Are you the short, longish haired lad who wore the green retro shirt by any chance? No, short hair, think I was wearing a blue retro and black coat on Tuesday.
Houdini Logic Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 That was one of the emptiest areas of the ground. At the minute with us getting bigger crowds there isn't really a big empty area anymore. The more I think about this, and it maybe because I don't know enough about this group, but if you want to add atmosphere and sing your heart out then why not just join the existing guys in L1/K1?
Kitchandro Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 a) Where did all these people go? Allow us to give you a bit of background on Union FS, it was formed by eight fans. One in Switzerland (now back in Leicester), two in the North West, one in Lincs, one in the South West and the remainder scattered around the rest of Leicestershire. Importantly, only one of these individuals is a current season ticket holder but ALL plan to be season ticket holders next season. Some would say glory supporters but we would argue that they have now been given something to return to off the pitch. We cannot speak for each member's personal circumstances but the feedback we've got from some is that they simply cannot get to midweek games and even struggle for early kick offs at the weekend. b) How many people are under the original Filbo Spirit banner? It's tough to say. We have over 60 fans on our 'members list' but less than half of these are season ticket holders and only 15 or so are currently permanent fixtures in SK1. This will change next season. c) Do all of Filbo spirit plan to be in SK1 every game? For this season, the simple and honest answer is no, unfortunately not. The way the final fixtures have fallen (Friday, Tuesday, early KO, early KO) isn't kind. Having said that, we are confident that our ticketing process designed in liaison with the Club will allow us all to be there every game from the beginning of next season. d) What is their procedure for securing seats there for the rest of this season, baring in mind we will be getting big crowds for the remaining matches? It's tough to say. We cannot 'protect' the area as we hope to do with season tickets next season and are therefore reliant on our members trusting us and buying their tickets between FF-PP, 17-29 every game they can. e) Maybe most importantly - why do Filbo Spirit think we haven't kicked on since Charlton? We think the main reason is the lack of preparation time between games - we had planned for Charlton for nearly three months - combined with midweek kick offs and only a few of the 'leaders' you mention being able to get to every game. It's rather unfortunate that the two loudest members we have happen to live furthest away! Expanding on the lack of preparation point: before Charlton even went on sale, we had told 30-40 people where to buy their tickets. It meant that the day they did go on sale, they were snapped up by people desperate to get in the area and make it a success. We recognise that some might consider not targeting every game until the end of the season to begin with a mistake. Momentum could be lost etc. By the time we changed the approach, tickets were on sale for the remaining games (save for Doncaster) and you could argue it was then too late. It's a fair criticism but at time the thought process was to ensure maximum exposure of a trial by focusing everyone's mind on one game. By showing what we could do, new people would flock. You could also argue that exactly that has happened. Unfortunately without those there to really push the atmosphere, as at Charlton, it has fallen flat. Cheers for the reply. It does appear that this is more of a next season project than this season, as unfortunately there aren't as many current regulars in the group as I'd originally thought. That is clearly due to difficult circumstances so it is understandable, and I suspected an explanation of that ilk; as I say it was clear that we just didn't have the numbers we had against Charlton. The only thing we can really do currently is try to drum up some more enthusiastic people to join us, which you have obviously been trying to do. I hope to join as a season ticket holder next season and until then I'm 90% sure I will spend the remaining matches in SK1. I would only suggest that anyone wanting and able to spend the remainder of the season in SK1 to secure their seats ASAP.
MATLCFC Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 The more I think about this, and it maybe because I don't know enough about this group, but if you want to add atmosphere and sing your heart out then why not just join the existing guys in L1/K1? Because L/K and the surrounding areas are a lot more expensive than sitting in the KOP hence why the 'singers' appear to be limited to those two blocks. You would have thought that if this wasn't the case the blocks would have grown far larger than they are currently in the 10 years + we have been at the new ground. I think SK1 is a good choice as it also has plenty of room for growth. It is about time something like this happened in my opinion, we are big club with a lot of passionate fans who like to make noise. We just need some coordination to bring us together.
Nugent Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 I was in SK1 for the first time on Tuesday, row NN 34, it wasn't amazing but as people have said, given time it will grow and improve. People going up there without tickets needs to be stopped though, left about 20 people standing in the aisle unable to find their seat for the first 15 minutes.
Houdini Logic Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 Because L/K and the surrounding areas are a lot more expensive than sitting in the KOP hence why the 'singers' appear to be limited to those two blocks. You would have thought that if this wasn't the case the blocks would have grown far larger than they are currently in the 10 years + we have been at the new ground. I think SK1 is a good choice as it also has plenty of room for growth. It is about time something like this happened in my opinion, we are big club with a lot of passionate fans who like to make noise. We just need some coordination to bring us together. I understand if it's a finanical thing, though I sit in L and pay £30 a year more than the Kop. I don't understand the argument about 'making something happen' and then creating a complete breakaway group from the current people who sing in L/K? L block has gotten bigger over the last 10 years and the standers/singers spill over into K and even J now. I just don't see why you wouldn't get involved with them rather than trying to start from scratch
C-man Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 I understand if it's a finanical thing, though I sit in L and pay £30 a year more than the Kop. I don't understand the argument about 'making something happen' and then creating a complete breakaway group from the current people who sing in L/K? L block has gotten bigger over the last 10 years and the standers/singers spill over into K and even J now. I just don't see why you wouldn't get involved with them rather than trying to start from scratch I guess that the main reason is that L has reached it's capacity and whilst there are some great lads in there that will sing for 90 minutes, there are plenty who inhabit the block for the atmosphere yet do nothing to aide it.The consequence of this is that, as you say, people spill out into K and more recently J where the price starts to become extortionate. It would be fairly stupid of a group who support campaigns for fairer ticket pricing to then encourage their patrons to pay over the odds in their own stadium. Furthermore, L1 is season ticket holder only. As a group I know that they are keen to ensure that fans who can't get to every game aren't excluded from joining in when they can make it. Then you have the argument that traditionally fans like to stand behind a goal. They like to 'suck the ball in'. In the vast majority of cases, the most vocal fans at a ground occupy an end - the Kop at Anfield, Don Revie Stand at Leeds, Stretford End at OT, Matthew Harding at Chels, pretty much every mainland European club etc etc. One of the ultimate goals is to 'reclaim the Kop' or at least get them involved a bit more often than usual. If Union FS can do this then singing in unison with L would be very impressive. I wouldn't consider this a pipe dream either - L has proven that they can get the Family Stand singing so theoretically the corner of SK1 can do the same with the remainder of the Kop. Should I go on?
Dan Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 No, short hair, think I was wearing a blue retro and black coat on Tuesday. Fair enough. Just whoever that was has been around at the time you've said you've been up there and you've said you're small in the past (I think)
sbfox Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 a) Where did all these people go? Allow us to give you a bit of background on Union FS, it was formed by eight fans. One in Switzerland (now back in Leicester), two in the North West, one in Lincs, one in the South West and the remainder scattered around the rest of Leicestershire. Importantly, only one of these individuals is a current season ticket holder but ALL plan to be season ticket holders next season. Some would say glory supporters but we would argue that they have now been given something to return to off the pitch. We cannot speak for each member's personal circumstances but the feedback we've got from some is that they simply cannot get to midweek games and even struggle for early kick offs at the weekend. Surely supporters 'support' the club, whatever the state of affairs on the pitch? To me, it does reek of glory supporting and disappointing IMO for a group which states on their blog "We also believe that is the responsibility of every Leicester fan – young and old – to give their absolute all to support their team". I agree, but this should mean through thick and thin, not just when we're on the cusp of promotion. All IMO of course.
AndWhat? Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 Surely supporters 'support' the club, whatever the state of affairs on the pitch? To me, it does reek of glory supporting and disappointing IMO for a group which states on their blog "We also believe that is the responsibility of every Leicester fan – young and old – to give their absolute all to support their team". I agree, but this should mean through thick and thin, not just when we're on the cusp of promotion. All IMO of course. The lads in Union FS aren't glory supporters, trust me lol
Voll Blau Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 Whether I think I'll enjoy myself with my mates is a much bigger factor for me (living about 200 miles away from the ground) than whether I think we'll win or not in determining which games I go to. Hopefully I'll have no choice but to go to all of them and have a pathetic bank balance sooner rather than later.
AndWhat? Posted 28 March 2014 Posted 28 March 2014 Exactly the same with me. Who we are playing against means far less than having a laugh with my mates in the stands and cheering Leicester on till I lose my voice.
Paulmot Posted 29 March 2014 Posted 29 March 2014 I was in SK1 for the first time on Tuesday, row NN 34, it wasn't amazing but as people have said, given time it will grow and improve. People going up there without tickets needs to be stopped though, left about 20 people standing in the aisle unable to find their seat for the first 15 minutes. Not surprised by the seat issue.
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