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So now we know: it was all down to Mandaric...

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I will join you as, no matter what anyone says, I still think without him coming into the club we would have Rab Douglas still in goal.

 

lol He was being sarcastic, since it's a ridiculous notion that we should thank Mandy for our current situation.

Posted

I will join you as, no matter what anyone says, I still think without him coming into the club we would have Rab Douglas still in goal.

 

At least we had a goalkeeper! Under Mandaric we sold Douglas and Henderson and literally got by with Conrad and a bunch of loan signings until he finally got his wallet out to sign Weale two years later.

Posted

Yeah you are all right, what a twat. I wish he had never come in and we just kept on in the fantastic situation we were in. 

 

See, I do understand sarcasm.

 

So he bought and sold a club, he brought in some managers and sold some managers and we made do with loan keepers and Conrad after he sold Douglas and Henderson but between Conrad and the loan keepers we got promoted back up and with the crap that was Douglas, Henderson et al..we got worse and worse.

 

But you are all correct....What a git...I miss Craig Levein managing us.

Posted

Yeah you are all right, what a twat. I wish he had never come in and we just kept on in the fantastic situation we were in. 

 

See, I do understand sarcasm.

 

So he bought and sold a club, he brought in some managers and sold some managers and we made do with loan keepers and Conrad after he sold Douglas and Henderson but between Conrad and the loan keepers we got promoted back up and with the crap that was Douglas, Henderson et al..we got worse and worse.

 

But you are all correct....What a git...I miss Craig Levein managing us.

 

That's irony, not sarcasm.

 

And we got relegated to the third tier with that string of loan keepers, before we came back up to the place we were already when Mandaric took over. It's the equivalent of being thoroughly miserable, turning to heroin, overdosing, surviving, and then being thoroughly miserable again - you'd hardly credit heroin with sorting your life out, would you? Similar thing with Leicester and Mandaric.

 

And, though it's been said a million times, we were in the Premier League just two years before Mandaric began to pursue his takeover. We had another seven and a half years to go outside the top flight after he bought us out. So how that adds up to a massive improvement in your book I have no idea.

 

The defence for Mandaric appears to be that (a) he appointed Pearson (well, he also let him go), (b) he oversaw our promotion from League One (he also oversaw us getting relegated to the third tier for the first time in our history), © he found us a decent set of buyers (yes, but out of sheer luck - the last club he sold on was bankrupt within a few years).

 

The best thing you can say about him is that he kept the club ticking over. He got some things right, got a lot of things wrong and we lived to fight another day. But don't kid yourself that he was a decent chairman.

Posted

I think that is a bit harsh, I think Mandaric did help us on our way. We were in an awful situation when he took over and even though we got relegated the first year he did offer financial support to try to prevent that from happening and then financial support to get us back up. He also then found us our incredible owners we currently have. 

Spot on, without his help we would probably be in league two, or else no longer in existence. 

Posted

The idea that where we are has anything to do with the mad man is an absolute joke and shows the extent to which rich people are commonly assumed to be brilliant when there is no evidence of it whatever! What has been achieved is the polar opposite of everything Mandaric stands for. Stability, appointing good mangers and sticking by them ,, building the club up from the bottom, good scouting. He turned our club into a national joke - most notably by bringing too the club the most mediocre and Inappropriate bunch of players ever to walk through the door of LCFC - Kaebi, the mad gambling keeper, Carl Cort and almost a dozen more, then sacking the manager before the end of August.

Posted

The idea that where we are has anything to do with the mad man is an absolute joke and shows the extent to which rich people are commonly assumed to be brilliant when there is no evidence of it whatever! What has been achieved is the polar opposite of everything Mandaric stands for. Stability, appointing good mangers and sticking by them ,, building the club up from the bottom, good scouting. He turned our club into a national joke - most notably by bringing too the club the most mediocre and Inappropriate bunch of players ever to walk through the door of LCFC - Kaebi, the mad gambling keeper, Carl Cort and almost a dozen more, then sacking the manager before the end of August.

 

 

The simple fact is that we were days away from not being a club anymore when he came in. Like it or not, he saved the club from extinction.

Posted

The idea that where we are has anything to do with the mad man is an absolute joke and shows the extent to which rich people are commonly assumed to be brilliant when there is no evidence of it whatever! What has been achieved is the polar opposite of everything Mandaric stands for. Stability, appointing good mangers and sticking by them ,, building the club up from the bottom, good scouting. He turned our club into a national joke - most notably by bringing too the club the most mediocre and Inappropriate bunch of players ever to walk through the door of LCFC - Kaebi, the mad gambling keeper, Carl Cort and almost a dozen more, then sacking the manager before the end of August.

I do find it amusing that Mandaric gets the blame for the signings under his reign but the Thais don't get the blame for Sven's signings.

Posted

The simple fact is that we were days away from not being a club anymore when he came in. Like it or not, he saved the club from extinction.

Proof? The club was hardly crippled with the size of the debt it has now. We weren't in a great position but neither are/were clubs who've came out of the other side in similar positions.

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I do find it amusing that Mandaric gets the blame for the signings under his reign but the Thais don't get the blame for Sven's signings.

Because it was known fact that Mandaric often used arrange for players to join the club in order to keep his agent mates happy. Marco Ferreira, Adda Djezieri, Sergio Hellings are examples of players we brought in to satisfy his chums. Have a look at his long history of signing Portuguese based players....it's the same at Wednesday.

Posted

The simple fact is that we were days away from not being a club anymore when he came in. Like it or not, he saved the club from extinction.

Spot on this hell of a lot of people have very short memories.

People going on about the strike force of De Vries, the same man who knocked Spurs out of the fa cup. The great Spurs centreback Dawson couldn't hanfle him that day!

Posted

A businessman with more skeletons than the ghost train at Alton Towers.

Whether you see his time with us as good or bad it certainly was not boring! 

And it was almost certainly good luck rather than conscious choice but he did sell us to what seems like good people.

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The simple fact is that we were days away from not being a club anymore when he came in. Like it or not, he saved the club from extinction.

This is not "the simple fact" at all.

The board at the time were looking to sell the club because they realised that they did not have the financial clout to make it particularly competitive in the Championship, as proven by the summer signings in 2006 of Kenton, Low, Johnson and (unbelievably) McAuley.

 

At this point we had been out of the top flight for about 3 years, during which time we had not looked particularly like getting back in. Therefore with the hope that somebody else might be able to get the club promoted, the board decided to sell to somebody who had some proper money, because none of them did.

 

There is an absolutely enormous difference between the board looking to sell the club to make it competitive (and cut their losses of course) and Mandaric riding in on a white horse to save the club from extinction. We could have toddled along doing nothing for another 5 years and who knows? We might have struck it lucky like Burnley or Blackpool and got promoted on a shoestring. But we weren't going extinct, far from it, no matter what Mandaric's mouthpiece was saying in the Mercury.

Posted

I think that is a bit harsh, I think Mandaric did help us on our way. We were in an awful situation when he took over and even though we got relegated the first year he did offer financial support to try to prevent that from happening and then financial support to get us back up. He also then found us our incredible owners we currently have. 

And is currently doing the same at Sheffield wednesday... Qataris looking at them now

Posted

He got the ball rolling - without him, like the guy or not, we wouldn't be about to hit the promise land.....

All you can say is the path we took has lead us here, you don't know what would have happened of Mandy had stayed away.

Posted

I think that a lot of people claim to be ITK with actual facts which are actually mere speculation.

i think people with actual facts and who are ITK stay away from posting on this forum.

Posted

When Mandaric announced he was interested in buying City we'd been just two years out of the top flight, we'd never been in the third tier of football and we were a mid-table outfit under Rob Kelly.

 

Within eighteen months he'd worked his way through four managers, one of which lasted four games, another of which lasted six weeks, and got us relegated to League One. Yes he appointed the guy who got us out of League One - and who will return us to the Premier League after a ten year absence - but he also let him go and appointed one of the most financially wasteful managers in our history in his place.

 

We shouldn't give him too much credit for getting us where we are today.

 

This. It frustrates me everytime I see people speaking as if we owe the man something. I don't think we were near combustion (it certainly wasn't something being touted in the press at the time from my memory) and there would still have been a Leicester City Football Club here today - maybe with our proud record of never having dropped to the third tier staying in tact.

 

Credit for appointing Pearson? 1 - because Nige was hot property at the time after successful caretaker spells at Carlisle, Newcastle and Southampton, he was hardly and unknown name and 2 - because he sacked him for Sousa, a move which took the club two years to recover from.

 

Similarly credit for 'finding' our owners? He was a businessman, he wanted to sell, he found a buyer. Where's the need to attribute credit?

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