Fez of Mahrez Posted 8 April 2014 Author Posted 8 April 2014 Or they would be forced to close a section of the ground the next game? Did they do that for Southampton and Cardiff and Hull and Watford and... etc etc etc. I don't mind people arguing against pitch invasions but let's base it in some kind of reality shall we?
Itsthejoeker Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 Did they do that for Southampton and Cardiff and Hull and Watford and... etc etc etc. I don't mind people arguing against pitch invasions but let's base it in some kind of reality shall we? At the end of the season? What games are there to cancel?
Kitchandro Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 Tonight was kind of funny. There were two extremes. On one hand, I've never seen people so desperate to invade the pitch (at the bottom of L) at such a silly time. On the other, I've never seen a club so desperate to avoid a pitch invasion. Both parties, are so utterly, utterly sad and pathetic. But more so the coppers. After all, one group wanted to have fun, and the other would rather cause a ruckus. The latter was the police/club.
Kitchandro Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 At the end of the season? What games are there to cancel? The ones the following season? Get real please, the club would suffer no punishment whatsoever for a pitch invasion.
lcfcfan23 Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 seems some people are obsessed by the idea. its illegal. fact. get over it. blaming the police for defending the law? simple minds.....
Fez of Mahrez Posted 8 April 2014 Author Posted 8 April 2014 At the end of the season? What games are there to cancel? Cardiff had one more game to play at home, for one. If they were that bothered about it, it would take effect the following season anyway. Either way, I'm not going to argue this any more because I'm about as far as a Stone Island hooligan as it's possible to get. Tonight was kind of funny. There were two extremes. On one hand, I've never seen people so desperate to invade the pitch (at the bottom of L) at such a silly time. On the other, I've never seen a club so desperate to avoid a pitch invasion. Both parties, are so utterly, utterly sad and pathetic. But more so the coppers. After all, one group wanted to have fun, and the other would rather cause a ruckus. The latter was the police/club. Basically agree with this.
BlueBoy1 Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 Blue boy what a load of crap from you. The amount of 'blue boys' made the ground look a mess and also a total waste of money. Do you really think all the kids there wanted to see all of that?!??. Vote for the liberals by any chance I for one wouldn't want my kids to get embroiled in a pitch invasion and they were only in certain sections so most of kids around us didn't seem bothered! Whoever mentioned big black batons obviously had one too many as they weren't carrying the big black ones only the standard issue ones. If ye club need support from the police then they're bound to assist. It's a pitch invasion that's not spontaneous. I'm sure no one cares if it happens at donny match! At least we will be champions by then. The club could have handled it better but I think ultimately it was the right thing for now
EnglishOxide Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 Tonight was kind of funny. There were two extremes. On one hand, I've never seen people so desperate to invade the pitch (at the bottom of L) at such a silly time. On the other, I've never seen a club so desperate to avoid a pitch invasion. Both parties, are so utterly, utterly sad and pathetic. But more so the coppers. After all, one group wanted to have fun, and the other would rather cause a ruckus. The latter was the police/club. So you're just condemning everyone? That's not an opinion! Quick question. If one person had been willingly allowed onto the pitch and stabbed a player. Who is held responsible? The person, or the club? The bottom line is this. Once inside that ground, the club takes on a huge responsibility for the health and safety of everybody in there. People should remember that and treat the stewards with a bit more respect.
BlueBoy1 Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 Do you know that as a fact? The police tell the club how many will be there.Try me xxxx As it was advertised on here how many wanted to break the law and no doubt Bentleys too the police will have told the club. The club then has no option but to pay for and accept what the police say. If they do the game would be stopped by the police. From a friend who is well placed at the club...yes it is fact. Why would police tell the club how any are going? The club sell the tickets in the first place! The club then update the cops and As in all places, the club then finance how mny cops they want.
Kitchandro Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 So you're just condemning everyone? That's not an opinion! Quick question. If one person had been willingly allowed onto the pitch and stabbed a player. Who is held responsible? The person, or the club? The bottom line is this. Once inside that ground, the club takes on a huge responsibility for the health and safety of everybody in there. People should remember that and treat the stewards with a bit more respect. Woah woah woah. If we're asking that question we shouldn't allow any shirt signing sessions, Q & A nights, in fact the players shouldn't be able to go out in public at all. What you're doing there is actually judging football fans as criminals. Why would a Leicester fan stab a player anyway? What a crazy, brainless comment. Respect for stewards good one. Are these the same stewards who, like you, view me as a criminal? Why would I respect them? If you didn't notice, tonight more violence was caused by the coppers who were supposedly enforcing health and safety. Without them it would have just been a handful of drunk people running on grass until they got bored.
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 As embarassing as some people being desperate for a pitch invasion is... equally as embarassing is some of the "it's illegal don't you know", "it contravenes health and safety laws" and "imagine if a player got hit". The point is this... Yes, it's illegal. Yes, it probably shouldn't be done unspontaneously. But so what?! What harm was really going to come of it tonight if a few people had run on the pitch, jumped around a bit and then been asked over the tannoy to leave? It's only illegal to stop people doing it DURING matches and if someone wants to smack a player they needn't be on the pitch to do it, you'll find them outside the players entrance before and after every match. That the club paid for 60+ coppers to prevent it is the most disgraceful thing.
Buggsteam Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 I do hate police. They wonder why half the population don't like or trust them and people no longer "have respect for the force". It's because they buzz for situations like tonight where they might get the opportunity to get the batons out and make a few rough and ready arrests just incase any football fans decide to "get naughty and act like hooligans". So pathetic the lot of them. Not all police are like that and I am defiantly not. The reason for a heavy police presence at a game is if they know there will be trouble ie local rivals etc or suspected pitch invasion like tonight. Yes pitch invasions may seem fun and have happened many times before at various grounds but the main reason they are tried to be prevented is do to health and safety reason. I was on duty at Birmingham city when they got thru to the semi final of the capital one cup in 2011. A small pitch invasion happend and I along with two colleagues and a very frightened dad had to pull a 10 year old boy out that had been knocked down and trampled on during the course of the invasion. Now times that pitch invasion by 25k + fans and your child gets crushed. You would be the first to complain to the police and the club. As for funding police in match days. It's the club that pay the majority if they want more then the allocated police on duty which is mainly made up of off duty officers doing over time. Yes you get jobs worth police but you get that in all walks of life. When I police games I'd rather have all fans going home safely then I know I've done my job right.
EnglishOxide Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 Woah woah woah. If we're asking that question we shouldn't allow any shirt signing sessions, Q & A nights, in fact the players shouldn't be able to go out in public at all. What you're doing there is actually judging football fans as criminals. Why would a Leicester fan stab a player anyway? What a crazy, brainless comment. Respect for stewards good one. Are these the same stewards who, like you, view me as a criminal? Why would I respect them? In what way is it comparable to q & a/shirt signing sessions? Use your ****ing brain here. People are not supposed to be on the pitch. Of course it's unlikely that a player would get stabbed (not just talking about a player here, it could be anybody). But if it did happen, and it went to court, if you as a club representative asked the prosecution 'why would a fan stab somebody anyway?'. It wouldn't ****ing wash. If a piss head gets let into the ground and falls down some stairs, and that fan wants compensation, who is responsible? It's the steward on the door/the club for not doing their job properly. If you didn't notice, tonight more violence was caused by the coppers who were supposedly enforcing health and safety. Without them it would have just been a handful of drunk people running on grass until they got bored. Where in the ground were you? Because i didn't see a single copper pitchside get involved in any violence or altercations.
leftbackinthechangingroom Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 Woah woah woah. If we're asking that question we shouldn't allow any shirt signing sessions, Q & A nights, in fact the players shouldn't be able to go out in public at all. What you're doing there is actually judging football fans as criminals. Why would a Leicester fan stab a player anyway? What a crazy, brainless comment. Respect for stewards good one. Are these the same stewards who, like you, view me as a criminal? Why would I respect them? If you didn't notice, tonight more violence was caused by the coppers who were supposedly enforcing health and safety. Without them it would have just been a handful of drunk people running on grass until they got bored. So all stewards treat you like criminal? Maybe if you actually spoke to one you would realize that they're people too sure theres a few jobsworths but isn't there in any job? I know a few stewards and they're all sound if you treat a person with respect you get respect in any walk of life.
Dan Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 Absolute joke. I'd love to hear how the 'the club can do no wrong' brigade will defend this utter nonsense. Tonight was absolutely ****ing pathetic.
Zapp Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 The only thing more cringey than the police on the lines was the pointless attempt from a few to get on. We lost 4-1. There was no joy in going on, they wanted to go on for the sake of going against authority, possibly because of frustration. The next chance to get on the pitch is if we become champions. The whole crowd will love it, the atmosphere will be buzzing, but more importantly it will be a moment of triumph. Tonight was a slow boring chilly slog to the final whistle where the cops were waiting. There's a time to attempt a pitch invasion. Tonight was not it.
Kitchandro Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 In what way is it comparable to q & a/shirt signing sessions? Use your ****ing brain here. People are not supposed to be on the pitch. Of course it's unlikely that a player would get stabbed (not just talking about a player here, it could be anybody). But if it did happen, and it went to court, if you as a club representative asked the prosecution 'why would a fan stab somebody anyway?'. It wouldn't ****ing wash. If a piss head gets let into the ground and falls down some stairs, and that fan wants compensation, who is responsible? It's the steward on the door/the club for not doing their job properly. Where in the ground were you? Because i didn't see a single copper pitchside get involved in any violence or altercations. Because you idiot, if a person is within touching distance of a player he has the opportunity to stab him. Why do you think that a fan running on the pitch (jubilantly, I might add) is more likely to stab a player than anyone else that comes into contact with said player? Can you not see why bringing up stabbing is totally stupid and not relevant to pitch invasions at all? You should have been paying more attention, because after the match there was a scuffle at the bottom of L between fans trying to invade the pitch and coppers trying to knock them back.
Collo73 Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 Buggsteam... You talk a good job pal but that's all it is. Using a kid getting home safe is a typical comment from you lot. The bottom line today was you lot were a total joke in numbers and attitude. Do you really think all the children there tonight really wanted to ask their parents why so many police were at a friendly football match?? Get a life. The police want respect from the country? Well sorry but things like tonight just make the gap wider and wider
BlueBoy1 Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 There was no violence tonight. One bloke got over excited and tried to run on the pitch so he was nicked. He wasn't filled in! That lad is pretty stupid as he seems to have come away with a ban from the club. If you think that was Violent then you've led a very charmed life and god help you if you went to watch a match abroad!! The copper In the forum has hit the nail on the head... There are bound to be 1 percent of them who are above their station as in all walks of life but the remainder do a thankless task. I'm sure they're the first people to be called when shaniqua from an estate has dissed your second cousin over Facebook
Kitchandro Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 So all stewards treat you like criminal? Maybe if you actually spoke to one you would realize that they're people too sure theres a few jobsworths but isn't there in any job? I know a few stewards and they're all sound if you treat a person with respect you get respect in any walk of life. In general, yeh. That's why they don't like standing, flags, drinking, pitch invasions...I could go on but, you get the picture.
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 Absolute joke. I'd love to hear how the 'the club can do no wrong' brigade will defend this utter nonsense. Tonight was absolutely ****ing pathetic. Whilst we're at it, another point, did I dream we got promoted on Saturday?! Because I didn't see/hear any recognition of it by the club tonight. Of course all week I saw their "buy your tickets now for the promotion party" and their #starttheparty through social media but nothing inside the ground tonight. Shouldn't a promotion party you've waited a decade for still go ahead even if toned down a little when you've lost? Instead, nothing. All the players off, a lot of riot police, buy your tickets for the next match now, thanks for your money, see you later. 10 years we've waited to get promoted and the first home game after achieving it we had... nothing. Worst party I've ever been to... #boycottheparty
Kitchandro Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 There was no violence tonight. One bloke got over excited and tried to run on the pitch so he was nicked. He wasn't filled in! That lad is pretty stupid as he seems to have come away with a ban from the club. If you think that was Violent then you've led a very charmed life and god help you if you went to watch a match abroad!! The copper In the forum has hit the nail on the head... There are bound to be 1 percent of them who are above their station as in all walks of life but the remainder do a thankless task. I'm sure they're the first people to be called when shaniqua from an estate has dissed your second cousin over Facebook I'm not talking about the kid, obviously you left before the clear scuffle at the bottom of the East Stand. So get your facts right.
Larry_LCFC Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 As much as I disagree with the actions of the police tonight, you cant blame them for it. They are under instruction from the club who are paying for them to be there. If the club want to pay extra to have more there to protect the pitch, then the police will oblige. Its the club who are at fault for it if anyone.
EnglishOxide Posted 8 April 2014 Posted 8 April 2014 Because you idiot, if a person is within touching distance of a player he has the opportunity to stab him. Why do you think that a fan running on the pitch (jubilantly, I might add) is more likely to stab a player than anyone else that comes into contact with said player? Can you not see why bringing up stabbing is totally stupid and not relevant to pitch invasions at all? You should have been paying more attention, because after the match there was a scuffle at the bottom of L between fans trying to invade the pitch and coppers trying to knock them back. Whether he is more likely or not is irrelivant. STEWARDS ON MATCHDAY HAVE A DUTY OF CARE. They have a role to carry out. That's **** all to do with off pitch activities. Why are you not grasping this? On your second point, i'm going to call you out as a straight up ****ing liar as it was only stewards holding back the group at the bottom of L, i saw the whole thing.
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