Cnuts

[sylofox]

Did they do that for Southampton and Cardiff and Hull and Watford and... etc etc etc. I don't mind people arguing against pitch invasions but let's base it in some kind of reality shall we?

That all depends on what the local force want to enforce.

Some counties are big on speeding some are not so bothered..

 

Unless we are party to the meetings between the club local council and the police we will never know.

[GingerrrFox]

There are bound to be 1 percent of them who are above their station as in all walks of life but the remainder do a thankless task. I'm sure they're the first people to be called when shaniqua from an estate has dissed your second cousin over Facebook.

No they are the type who turn up and start acting like they are the judge and jury whilst people who don't trust the police have a straightener.

[Harry - LCFC]

seems some people are obsessed by the idea. its illegal. fact. get over it. blaming the police for defending the law? simple minds.....

 

It's also illegal to drink while in view of the pitch. I take it you're equally outraged at such an atrocious disregard for social order?

 

I happen to think both laws aren't particularly good ones and reject both of them. So I'd like you to explain why you think it's so important to stop members of the public from stepping on some grass - don't resort to a fallacious "it's the law" comment because I won't be convinced.

[Dan]

People was just relying on L block, in N block we all went down but no one went on until L did. But only a quarter of L wanted to.

I still think there could be one this season though, I just thinking people didn't want to as we lost

 

Not a chance. Tonight's actions from both fans & LCFC confirmed there won't ever be one at this ground. Time to accept it.

[BlueBoy1]

I'm not talking about the kid, obviously you left before the clear scuffle at the bottom of the East Stand. So get your facts right.

Haha that was not exactly a boxing match! A friend of a friend from over there said something about racist or homophobic chanting leading to further arrests.

If the Pillocks commit these offences then what do they expect. They weren't exactly beat up.

As for the stewards, they have the thankless task of enforcing the clubs rules. If no flags are allowed then it's their job to take them away.!nothing they say is going to appease the owner of said flag. It's their job.

[Fez of Mahrez]

As much as I disagree with the actions of the police tonight, you cant blame them for it. They are under instruction from the club who are paying for them to be there. If the club want to pay extra to have more there to protect the pitch, then the police will oblige. Its the club who are at fault for it if anyone.

Yeah that's who I was blaming. Not that I want to blame them at the moment for anything given the bigger picture.

The "cnuts" in the title wasn't really referring to anyone in particular, was just a bit angry at the world in the heat of the moment. Expected a promotion party tonight, not a line of police.

[BlueBoy1]

No they are the type who turn up and start acting like they are the judge and jury whilst people who don't trust the police have a straightener.

and people with your attitude would never see it from most peoples eyes because you have some sort of resentment towards authority.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Not all police are like that and I am defiantly not.

The reason for a heavy police presence at a game is if they know there will be trouble ie local rivals etc or suspected pitch invasion like tonight.

Yes pitch invasions may seem fun and have happened many times before at various grounds but the main reason they are tried to be prevented is do to health and safety reason.

I was on duty at Birmingham city when they got thru to the semi final of the capital one cup in 2011.

A small pitch invasion happend and I along with two colleagues and a very frightened dad had to pull a 10 year old boy out that had been knocked down and trampled on during the course of the invasion.

Now times that pitch invasion by 25k + fans and your child gets crushed. You would be the first to complain to the police and the club.

As for funding police in match days. It's the club that pay the majority if they want more then the allocated police on duty which is mainly made up of off duty officers doing over time.

Yes you get jobs worth police but you get that in all walks of life.

When I police games I'd rather have all fans going home safely then I know I've done my job right.

Great post to be fair

Balanced and well presented

[leftbackinthechangingroom]

In general, yeh. That's why they don't like standing, flags, drinking, pitch invasions...I could go on but, you get the picture.

Seen lots of flags today stewards didn't seem to have a problem with them. Drinking I'm with you on that but not much can be done about that, see loads of people standing but until the law is changed about safe standing again nothing can be done till then. Unfortunately stewards have to enforce these things and a lot get a bad rep for it but end of the day they're doing their job. How would you like it if people abused you at your job?

Don't get me wrong I'm not attacking you just offering a different opinion

[GingerrrFox]

and people with your attitude would never see it from most peoples eyes because you have some sort of resentment towards authority.

I have no problem with authority thank you. However when you have family members who work as solicitors and barristers and are told over Christmas dinner just how crooked and protect their own at all costs police are, you wouldn't trust them either. They are the biggest gang in this country the only difference is they have the badge and system to back them up.

[Buggsteam]

Buggsteam... You talk a good job pal but that's all it is. Using a kid getting home safe is a typical comment from you lot. The bottom line today was you lot were a total joke in numbers and attitude. Do you really think all the children there tonight really wanted to ask their parents why so many police were at a friendly football match?? Get a life.

The police want respect from the country? Well sorry but things like tonight just make the gap wider and wider

It's not the police fault that this country has gone PC mad and have so much red tape around it.

Being a fan myself would love to go to games without a heavy police presence, likewise for a night out on the town with out police there.

But in this day and age you need some control and order.

We as police get slated every day for a thankless job we do and I don't claim all police are perfect as I know they are not and yes I admit there are the power hungry ones out there.

But being a dad myself to two young kids, I would like to think they are being protected in all walks of life and daily things that happen.

Yes a heavy presence at a game may seem OTT a very disturbing for a young child but it better for that child to go home safe then be half crushed to death if fans were just allowed to invade the pitch as and when they see fit.

Now you may say that our excuse from our lot as you put it but that's the bottom line. I'm not there to try and spoil anyone's fun but I have to make sure the other thousands of fans around you don't come to any harm from your actions.

[Dan]

The amount of people in this thread missing the point is ****ing astonishing. I can barely even be arsed arguing.

[Larry_LCFC]

Yeah that's who I was blaming. Not that I want to blame them at the moment for anything given the bigger picture.

The "cnuts" in the title wasn't really referring to anyone in particular, was just a bit angry at the world in the heat of the moment. Expected a promotion party tonight, not a line of police.

Yeah I wasn't having a digging specifically at you mate. Its just very easy for some people to point the finger at the police and give them unjustified abuse. People need to remember that cops at games are just foot soldiers following orders from above.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

It's not the police fault that this country has gone PC mad and have so much red tape around it.

Being a fan myself would love to go to games without a heavy police presence, likewise for a night out on the town with out police there.

But in this day and age you need some control and order.

We as police get slated every day for a thankless job we do and I don't claim all police are perfect as I know they are not and yes I admit there are the power hungry ones out there.

But being a dad myself to two young kids, I would like to think they are being protected in all walks of life and daily things that happen.

Yes a heavy presence at a game may seem OTT a very disturbing for a young child but it better for that child to go home safe then be half crushed to death if fans were just allowed to invade the pitch as and when they see fit.

Now you may say that our excuse from our lot as you put it but that's the bottom line. I'm not there to try and spoil anyone's fun but I have to make sure the other thousands of fans around you don't come to any harm from your actions.

Great post again

[Collo73]

The bottom line is this.. We, as fans lost out first game in 22 matches. The club made a massive howler with the policing situation tonight and of course once again the police 'policed' with their usual decorum!

Was really looking forward to tonight and a really relaxed atmosphere but lets face it we didn't get it did we.

As we approached the stadium the place was full of police, you wont see many less for the west ham lot when they arrive here next year.

All in all a total waste of money and more will jump on the bandwagon of having no respect for the law I'm afraid.

Better policing goes unnoticed..!!

[BlueBoy1]

I have no problem with authority thank you. However when you have family members who work as solicitors and barristers and are told over Christmas dinner just how crooked and protect their own at all costs police are, you wouldn't trust them either. They are the biggest gang in this country the only difference is they have the badge and system to back them up.

I think the amount of scrunity they get prevents self ruling. If anything some wiuld argue that any mistakes are harshly dealt with by the independent ipcc. Barristers and solicitors dint do badly out of looking after one another.

I digress. at the end of the day the police in my opinion and several around us didn't see anything wrong with the polices conduct. They came in for the last minute, deterred pitch invaders and the club are happy. I am not having a dig at the club... It's their ground and they've looked after the fans and the clubs interests. I just think that everyone's moaning because their in a mood about the result which has magnified a small issue.

[Karl_LCFC]

I agree with OP. But the amount of abuse stewards get is disgusting...is it really necessary to chant "w*nkers" at stewards that are popping the balloons so they don't enter the pitch. First half I seen a steward helping someone find his seat and as he was walking up fans were giving abuse. Seems to be a real hatred towards them without a justified reason?

[Unabomber]

I agree with OP. But the amount of abuse stewards get is disgusting...is it really necessary to chant "w*nkers" at stewards that are popping the balloons so they don't enter the pitch. First half I seen a steward helping someone find his seat and as he was walking up fans were giving abuse. Seems to be a real hatred towards them without a justified reason?

The funniest thing that I heard tonight was someone chanting "nananananananananana balloons are going pop, going pop, balloons are going pop" to the Leicesters going up chant when that was kicking off.

[Larry_LCFC]

The funniest thing that I heard tonight was someone chanting "nananananananananana balloons are going pop, going pop, balloons are going pop" to the Leicesters going up chant when that was kicking off.

I actually chuckled at that. Love it

[Buggsteam]

I have no problem with authority thank you. However when you have family members who work as solicitors and barristers and are told over Christmas dinner just how crooked and protect their own at all costs police are, you wouldn't trust them either. They are the biggest gang in this country the only difference is they have the badge and system to back them up.

Yes there are crooked police out there and I have seen more then enough colleagues I thought I could trust sacked for it. However I also have seen a lot of corrupt solicitors.

I joined the police 15 years ago because I wanted to make a difference, because there wasn't a police presence when my family needed them most.

Now you may look at me as being pathetic or sad but I do my job to the best of my ability and want to make a difference to the community I live in, like hundreds of other police I know.

You can have corruption in every job and every different environment in life but it doesn't mean every police officer is the same because of a minority.

I'm sorry you a so anti police and hope you never need us anytime.

[Monsell1976]

Not all police are like that and I am defiantly not.

The reason for a heavy police presence at a game is if they know there will be trouble ie local rivals etc or suspected pitch invasion like tonight.

Yes pitch invasions may seem fun and have happened many times before at various grounds but the main reason they are tried to be prevented is do to health and safety reason.

I was on duty at Birmingham city when they got thru to the semi final of the capital one cup in 2011.

A small pitch invasion happend and I along with two colleagues and a very frightened dad had to pull a 10 year old boy out that had been knocked down and trampled on during the course of the invasion.

Now times that pitch invasion by 25k + fans and your child gets crushed. You would be the first to complain to the police and the club.

As for funding police in match days. It's the club that pay the majority if they want more then the allocated police on duty which is mainly made up of off duty officers doing over time.

Yes you get jobs worth police but you get that in all walks of life.

When I police games I'd rather have all fans going home safely then I know I've done my job right.

I have to agree more with ginger, I have travelled all over the country and have come into contact with many police, and the arrogants of the vast majority is quite astounding, especially at football matches, they appear to treat all fans as thugs, and at times they have looked more up for a fight than the supporters they are there to keep safe.

Tonight police had serious ego problems and dealt with the public they took an oath to serve, with little tolerance, but they need to get it in their heads that not all football fans are not thugs, and the vast majority are hard working people, who pay their taxes, which in turn pays for the police force, and have no criminal intent.

[leftbackinthechangingroom]

I agree with OP. But the amount of abuse stewards get is disgusting...is it really necessary to chant "w*nkers" at stewards that are popping the balloons so they don't enter the pitch. First half I seen a steward helping someone find his seat and as he was walking up fans were giving abuse. Seems to be a real hatred towards them without a justified reason?

Yeah I have to agree with you on that if the shoe was on the other foot and tge steward was mouthing off at the fan they would be up in arms

[Larry_LCFC]

I have to agree more with ginger, I have travelled all over the country and have come into contact with many police, and the arrogants of the vast majority is quite astounding, especially at football matches, they appear to treat all fans as thugs, and at times they have looked more up for a fight than the supporters they are there to keep safe.

Tonight police had serious ego problems and dealt with the public they took an oath to serve, with little tolerance, but they need to get it out if their heads that all football fans are not thugs, and the vast majority are hard working people, who pay the taxes, which in turn pays for the police force, and have no criminal intent.

In what way did they have serious ego problems tonight? Im genuinely interested. Surely not just from arresting homophobes and lining the pitch as ordered?

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Yes there are crooked police out there and I have seen more then enough colleagues I thought I could trust sacked for it. However I also have seen a lot of corrupt solicitors.

I joined the police 15 years ago because I wanted to make a difference, because there wasn't a police presence when my family needed them most.

Now you may look at me as being pathetic or sad but I do my job to the best of my ability and want to make a difference to the community I live in, like hundreds of other police I know.

You can have corruption in every job and every different environment in life but it doesn't mean every police officer is the same because of a minority.

I'm sorry you a so anti police and hope you never need us anytime.

Great balance post again

[EnglishOxide]

To those moaning about the police what did they do wrong in your eyes? Did something kick off outside the ground? As inside it was just a heavy presence to deter pitch incursion wasn't it? So basically you're upset that there wasn't a pitch invasion? In which case i imagine you were in L1/N1 as i think it says something that they are the only two sections that wanted on to the pitch.

 

Getting onto the pitch wasn't a ground wide feeling, so it was right to prevent it.

 

To those insulting stewards, step back and have a think. Who are you going to when somebody in your row has collapsed, or is in your seat, or your kid has gone missing?

 

Again, it's about respect. Most stewards are students and old boys following orders who are Leicester supporters as much as the next man, and anybody who feels the need to abuse them can get ****ed to be honest.