AKCJ Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 I don't think Martin Jol is a bad shout at all. Don't make me laugh for **** sake. Sick of the short term attitude that the Premier League inflicts on fans. Really? Obviously these Pearsonites have stopped going to games. "Pearsonites" You mean supporters. These people that boo. They are not supporters.
ADK Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 I could consider a change of manager if a decent one was available but there isn't.
stingray Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Coco Pearson is a spent force. And so is his Leicester team. Good in patches during games, but overall not up to it. I'd be happy with Curbishly, good shout. Or Lennon.
Guest ttfn Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 There is a good argument for him going. But when did it become the case that failing to keep a newly promoted team up means the manager should be sacked? I think there's a difference between glorious failure and abject failure and ultimately saying "failure's failure" is a bit reductive. Holloway at Blackpool was a glorious failure. Blackpool were a slightly above-average Championship side (got about 70 points), were poorly funded, had only 2 months to prepare for Premier League football having won the Play-Offs and yet steadily accumulated points over the season, played some great attacking football and got about 38/39 points. They were unfortunate to go down, but ultimately did go down. Nobody thought Holloway should get the sack because despite not keeping Blackpool up they'd clearly had a bloody good crack at it all things considered. Currently Pearson is falling into the abject failure bracket. We got 102 points in the Championship, Pearson had 4 months to assemble a Premier League-ready squad, we've got 9 points from the last 20 games and at this rate we'd be lucky to get 30 points. We're failing spectacularly relative to what our expectations should have been compared to other recently promoted sides. We were in the best position to kick on of any side to have come up since Newcastle. I agree that relegation isn't of itself a reason to sack a manager of a newly-promoted side, and earlier in the season I said I'd probably still back Nige even if we went down. But the "probably" was predicated on him continuing to produce a side we could be proud of on a regular basis. I'm not sure that's the case any more.
ScouseFox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 I'd be happy with Curbishly, good shout. Or Lennon.
AKCJ Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Coco Pearson is a spent force. And so is his Leicester team. Good in patches during games, but overall not up to it. I'd be happy with Curbishly, good shout. Or Lennon. I hope your carer remembers to put your straight jacket on tonight.
Guest ttfn Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Don't make me laugh for **** sake. Sick of the short term attitude that the Premier League inflicts on fans. "Pearsonites" You mean supporters. These people that boo. They are not supporters. Hang on, I've not said that Pearson should go. What would be wrong with Martin Jol exactly? He's achieved a damn sight more in his managerial career than everybody else on that list. Even at Fulham he had a couple of good years before it went tits up.
ScouseFox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 What would be wrong with Martin Jol exactly? got probably the biggest head i've ever seen
Guest ttfn Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 got probably the biggest head i've ever seen Like a sort of balloon head, if you will.
Danno Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 I dont think i've come across an intelligent person who wants pearson out yet.
Bettsj2 Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Hang on, I've not said that Pearson should go. What would be wrong with Martin Jol exactly? He's achieved a damn sight more in his managerial career than everybody else on that list. Even at Fulham he had a couple of good years before it went tits up. This. Even in his worst season, his record still eclipses Pearson.
cjslcfc Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 I think this thread sums up why he's still in a job and why I don't think he should go yet. The alternatives are pretty fvcking horrendous.
ScouseFox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Like a sort of balloon head, if you will. yeah but not an average balloon one of them ****ing huge ones you get off the market.
cjslcfc Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 I think this thread sums up why he's still in a job and why I don't think he should go yet. The alternatives are pretty fvcking horrendous.
Bettsj2 Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 I dont think i've come across an intelligent person who wants pearson out yet. Those who want him in are getting less and less rational about it.
the-blue-wildabeast Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 First, can you say how he has thrown away the last three years of work. Will we not be exactly where we were when he came back to us come August, and also face losing our better players? I would say that when the owners have been very patient and spent quite a bit on money, only for us to be in the same place after 3 years would point to throwing away the last 3 years work, its not rocket science.
Guest ttfn Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 I dont think i've come across an intelligent person who wants pearson out yet. Corky wants Pearson out and he is renowned as being one of the most sensible, intelligent (and as such boring) posters on here. inckleyfox is relatively bright and articulate and he's had enough. To be honest walking out of the ground today I couldn't really give a toss if we sacked NP or not (second time that's happened against Villa this season and I felt similarly after Barnsley), but I think that's just post-match adrenalin. The list of prospective successors means that any change is riskier than keeping Pearson on and I think that most people continue to recognise that. But effectively labelling anybody who wants Pearson out as thick is not really fair - there have been some good arguments made on here for why he should go and the best rebuttal left is "who should replace him?"
the-blue-wildabeast Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 I think there's a difference between glorious failure and abject failure and ultimately saying "failure's failure" is a bit reductive. Holloway at Blackpool was a glorious failure. Blackpool were a slightly above-average Championship side (got about 70 points), were poorly funded, had only 2 months to prepare for Premier League football having won the Play-Offs and yet steadily accumulated points over the season, played some great attacking football and got about 38/39 points. They were unfortunate to go down, but ultimately did go down. Nobody thought Holloway should get the sack because despite not keeping Blackpool up they'd clearly had a bloody good crack at it all things considered. Currently Pearson is falling into the abject failure bracket. We got 102 points in the Championship, Pearson had 4 months to assemble a Premier League-ready squad, we've got 9 points from the last 20 games and at this rate we'd be lucky to get 30 points. We're failing spectacularly relative to what our expectations should have been compared to other recently promoted sides. We were in the best position to kick on of any side to have come up since Newcastle. I agree that relegation isn't of itself a reason to sack a manager of a newly-promoted side, and earlier in the season I said I'd probably still back Nige even if we went down. But the "probably" was predicated on him continuing to produce a side we could be proud of on a regular basis. I'm not sure that's the case any more. Totally bang on.
AKCJ Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 This. Even in his worst season, his record still eclipses Pearson. In a side that cost a hell of a lot more than ours and one that had been in the Premier League for ages. Martin Jol would be a massive backwards step, even if it brings us 2 or 3 decent results.
cjslcfc Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Corky wants Pearson out and he is renowned as being one of the most sensible, intelligent (and as such boring) posters on here. inckleyfox is relatively bright and articulate and he's had enough. To be honest walking out of the ground today I couldn't really give a toss if we sacked NP or not (second time that's happened against Villa this season and I felt similarly after Barnsley), but I think that's just post-match adrenalin. The list of prospective successors means that any change is riskier than keeping Pearson on and I think that most people continue to recognise that. But effectively labelling anybody who wants Pearson out as thick is not really fair - there have been some good arguments made on here for why he should go and the best rebuttal left is "who should replace him?" Completely agree.
maxwelld_ Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Time to get rid simple guys . Would rather play the rest of the season with someone in as caretaker then keep him and build for best season
stingray Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 So Pearsonites...can look into your crystal(meth) balls for a moment. He was sacked a week ago. Reinstated. Just say, he's going to be sacked tomorrow. Or next week. Who would you want in? I've offered two strong candidates, Curbishley (who has a proven track record at Prem level) and Lennon (who has CL experience and title-winning record and LCFC roots).
jamesmilner Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 I don't know one company , that would think about who they'd replace their failing manager with, before they sacked him ? If a manager needed the sack because he wasn't getting the results required , who would replace him would be irrelevant . They would just sack him then act on replacement after . That argument on here has no substance .
Babylon Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 I don't know one company , that would think about who they'd replace their failing manager with, before they sacked him ? If a manager needed the sack because he wasn't getting the results required , who would replace him would be irrelevant . They would just sack him the act on replacement after . That argument on here has no substance . Thank goodness you are highly unlikely to be running a company turning over £100m anytime soon.
Guest Col city fan Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 I don't know one company , that would think about who they'd replace their failing manager with, before they sacked him ? If a manager needed the sack because he wasn't getting the results required , who would replace him would be irrelevant . They would just sack him then act on replacement after . That argument on here has no substance . I agree.
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