stingray Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 From WIKI: After looking certain for relegation, Curbishley led West Ham to seven wins out of their last nine games, beating Blackburn Rovers, Everton, Bolton Wanderers, Wigan Athletic, Arsenal, Middlesbroughand a 1–0 win at Manchester United on the last day of the season, to keep West Ham in the Premier League.[16] The 2007–08 Premier League season was relatively successful for Curbishley, as he led the club to a top-ten finish despite long-term injuries to many of the key signings he had made that summer, including Scott Parker, Craig Bellamy, Kieron Dyer and Julien Faubert. 2008-9 Despite the club taking six points from their first three games, he was unhappy with the club's transfer policy and resigned...
Babylon Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 So Pearsonites...can look into your crystal(meth) balls for a moment. He was sacked a week ago. Reinstated. Just say, he's going to be sacked tomorrow. Or next week. Who would you want in? I've offered two strong candidates, Curbishley (who has a proven track record at Prem level) and Lennon (who has CL experience and title-winning record and LCFC roots). Curbishley has been out of the game for 7, that's SEVEN, years... do you not wonder why? Lennon is a candidate, but, doing it in Scotland, during which time they haven't even had Rangers to compete with is hardly glittering is it?
jamesmilner Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Thank goodness you are highly unlikely to be running a company turning over £100m anytime soon. you talk tosh ! lcfc will be turning over what next year in the championship compared to the prem ????? fool !!
Bettsj2 Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 I don't know one company , that would think about who they'd replace their failing manager with, before they sacked him ? If a manager needed the sack because he wasn't getting the results required , who would replace him would be irrelevant . They would just sack him then act on replacement after . That argument on here has no substance . Football doesnt run the same way. An engineering firm can still operate without a general manager for an unspecified period of time. A football team cant.
AKCJ Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Curbishley has been out of the game for 7, that's SEVEN, years... do you not wonder why? Lennon is a candidate, but, doing it in Scotland, during which time they haven't even had Rangers to compete with is hardly glittering is it? especially when he's not really doing it in England either.
Bettsj2 Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 In a side that cost a hell of a lot more than ours and one that had been in the Premier League for ages. Martin Jol would be a massive backwards step, even if it brings us 2 or 3 decent results. The side didnt cost that much more than ours. Given how poor the bottom 6 in the Prem is, its really only 6 or 7 positive results we need. The new manager bounce would provide that.
MC Prussian Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 So Pearsonites...can look into your crystal(meth) balls for a moment. He was sacked a week ago. Reinstated. Just say, he's going to be sacked tomorrow. Or next week. Who would you want in? I've offered two strong candidates, Curbishley (who has a proven track record at Prem level) and Lennon (who has CL experience and title-winning record and LCFC roots). Any manager can be sacked at any time. What does reality teach us, though? A manager is sacked when the board is no longer happy with the way things are going. So, any discussion about Pearson allegedly having been sacked or being close to getting the sack or maybe getting sacked or getting sacked in the morning or having purchased a knapsack is based on pure conjecture. There is a reason Curbishley hasn't been employed for more than six years now. And Lennon's one big result with Celtic against Barcelona is just like us saying Pearson is great because we beat Manchester United once. Also, the Scottish Premier League is hardly competitive and it's really, really tough to deliver titles in a league when you're the Chelsea of Scotland.
shailen Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Stability at any club is what breeds success. Look at Fergie and Wenger. Both those managers had difficult spells, yet the managers there have always delivered. Obviously we are not in the same league as those clubs but it proves the fundamental point of stability. Change managers only if you feel like there is something very wrong with the current one. If you feel that way, fair enough, I think we are so close and with a little bit of luck we could have had easily another 10-12 points. A new manager means a rebuilding process which takes 3/4 years usually, since most managers want their own players and staff, and adapt tactics to their philosophy. Villa for example are playing dreadful football, and so the sacking of Lambert made sense. Ignore the table, and if you feel we were playing terribly, fair. If you feel we make too many mistakes, blame the players. Blame the manager if you dont believe in the way we are playing and the team's performances. There is a very important distinction between performances and results
ScouseFox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 lennon and curbishley giuahberil;ubhevpnerbuvasdilghn4p8va4pnapw83nbevaio;qhgnvp4qiwanvc;eiowashg;nvu adofhjgnviusdajhn;ecquewhf9ncq843nf932n0cn9ewcn2wefn4ere;oinv0-2v-djzno
Babylon Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 you talk tosh ! lcfc will be turning over what next year in the championship compared to the prem ????? fool !! We'll be turning over about £35m... I wouldn't put you in charge of a company turning over 50p a week. To suggest a football club sacks their manager without a single second of actually thinking through those actions is utter lunacy. Football isn't the same as any other company, perhaps you think we'll be advertising the job in the Mercury afterwards? Football is a game where you can see all your candidates BEFORE you make your decision. You can asses all of them to see how they will fit in with your company before making the decision to get rid of what you have. This isn't the sacking of a Lidl manager, where you bung an advert up and see who applies. It's more like a FTSE 100 company, where you know who most of the candidates are as you can see them in other jobs and assess how they perform and how they fit in with you.
skmanuk Posted 15 February 2015 Author Posted 15 February 2015 Those who want him in are getting less and less rational about it. Noticed that too, they seem to be sinking to simple abuse of the poster
Silverdaz Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Im just waiting for the reaction of the fans who want NP gone when we slide down the divisions to obsecurity because we have lost the best manager we have had for years. Because that what would happen if we got rid.
Silverdaz Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Stability at any club is what breeds success. Look at Fergie and Wenger. Both those managers had difficult spells, yet the managers there have always delivered. Obviously we are not in the same league as those clubs but it proves the fundamental point of stability. Change managers only if you feel like there is something very wrong with the current one. If you feel that way, fair enough, I think we are so close and with a little bit of luck we could have had easily another 10-12 points. A new manager means a rebuilding process which takes 3/4 years usually, since most managers want their own players and staff, and adapt tactics to their philosophy. Villa for example are playing dreadful football, and so the sacking of Lambert made sense. Ignore the table, and if you feel we were playing terribly, fair. If you feel we make too many mistakes, blame the players. Blame the manager if you dont believe in the way we are playing and the team's performances. There is a very important distinction between performances and results here here its not like we are getting thrashed every week and not playing very well
The Horse's Mouth Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 our fanbase deserve championship football
wurmer Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Im just waiting for the reaction of the fans who want NP gone when we slide down the divisions to obsecurity because we have lost the best manager we have had for years. Because that what would happen if we got rid. Just because he's the best we've had for years, doesn't automatically make him the right manager to take us forward to the next level. I think that he's not good enough for the Premier League - he's hit his limit and shown he isn't good enough.
Corky Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 We can't just replace him with anyone, we have to look at it rationally. Forget the top Championship managers, they are all involved in crucial seasons for their current clubs with success on the horizon. Then we have the managers recently sacked by Premier League clubs- Irvine, Lambert and Warnock. No significant improvement. Mark Warburton is a shout given the problems at Brentford and his recent success. Laudrup could be available. Jol is a good suggestion. Warburton- possible. It is looking more likely that we'll have to gamble with an untried lower division manager in this country or look to a solid foreign manager who is achieving with a smaller club in Italy, Spain, Germany etc. If we're going to get rid (and I think we should now) we need to think outside the box for options, the traditional list is very uninspiring such as Hoddle, Curbishley and the three recently sacked.
Happy Fox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 We can't just replace him with anyone, we have to look at it rationally. Forget the top Championship managers, they are all involved in crucial seasons for their current clubs with success on the horizon. Then we have the managers recently sacked by Premier League clubs- Irvine, Lambert and Warnock. No significant improvement. Mark Warburton is a shout given the problems at Brentford and his recent success. Laudrup could be available. Jol is a good suggestion. Warburton- possible. It is looking more likely that we'll have to gamble with an untried lower division manager in this country or look to a solid foreign manager who is achieving with a smaller club in Italy, Spain, Germany etc. If we're going to get rid (and I think we should now) we need to think outside the box for options, the traditional list is very uninspiring such as Hoddle, Curbishley and the three recently sacked. I would consider league one, Simon Grayson and Karl Robinson, managers with potential imo.
the-blue-wildabeast Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 I like Adkins, didnt quite work out at Reading but unlike Pearson he seems the type of guy who would learn from that experience. Did a wonderfull job at Scunthorpe and Southampton playing some great football on the way.
Silverdaz Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Just because he's the best we've had for years, doesn't automatically make him the right manager to take us forward to the next level. I think that he's not good enough for the Premier League - he's hit his limit and shown he isn't good enough. but is good enough for the championship if we go down so hence if we get relegated hes the perfect person
Babylon Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 I would consider league one, Simon Grayson and Karl Robinson, managers with potential imo. God this is getting worse
Happy Fox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 God this is getting worse Come on Babs they are hardly poor managers not as good as NP mind but they have potential and age on their side.
Babylon Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 I like Adkins, didnt quite work out at Reading but unlike Pearson he seems the type of guy who would learn from that experience. Did a wonderfull job at Scunthorpe and Southampton playing some great football on the way. So pretty much everyone who wants Pearson gone points to Saints as the template to follow with regards getting rid of a manager and bringing a new one in... so the answer is to bring in the guy that they are now being praised for sacking.
cjslcfc Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 I would consider league one, Simon Grayson and Karl Robinson, managers with potential imo. NO, NO AND NO. God knows why Karl Robinson always gets mentioned. He's done the some of fvck all since he's been at MK Dons!!
hackneyfox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Im just waiting for the reaction of the fans who want NP gone when we slide down the divisions to obsecurity because we have lost the best manager we have had for years. Because that what would happen if we got rid. Why would we slide down the divisions to obscurity, we've only played at the third level once in our entire history (and yes I know who got us up) and we have better owners now than ever before. here here its not like we are getting thrashed every week and not playing very well We still have one of the worst goal differences in the division and we're generally playing worse than whichever team we play hence 9 points from 60.
Babylon Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Come on Babs they are hardly poor managers not as good as NP mind but they have potential and age on their side. Robinson... 5th in league one, 5th in league one, 8th in league one, 10th in league one. With MK Dons, who my Saddlers loving mate tells me have one of the biggest budgets in that league. The bloke is a bookies favourite, he must have the best agent in the world to get linked with every job. Grayson has hardly pulled up trees himself. These types of managers are not outstanding candidates in any shape or form. I'd rather stick with what we have rather than them.
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