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How likely is it we sign Green if we go up?

I’d never really thought about it until just now - he’s been at the club for roughly half of my life and then entirety of my adulthood. In a sense all I’ve ever known is Vardy. On one hand how fortune I am but how the **** do we go on. Nobody will ever compare.

Lots of clubs attendances were crap in the early 10s, there's been a complete boom in the number of people going to the football - it doesn't mean a club doesn't have big support. We had a great season in 09/10 and averaged under 24k, unfathomable now.

Cross isn't heralded like he should be. I love that he won the One Day Cup with Leicestershire too.

Leeds are huge underachievers tbh - same amount of major trophies as us iirc. Massive potential and I'm surprised they've not gone bigger with their extension. That's excluding Doncaster, Hull, York etc where they draw support from too. There's a load in Sheffield, London, are whack in the East Mids too.

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Could have gone but I was completely put off by the draconian covid bullshit (the club coach fiasco was still one of the worst things they've ever done). It was a nightmare trying to book a pub to get a big group of us together, everywhere you'd usually think of was booked up entirely. We stumbled upon the Owl & Pussycat, they had plenty of tables available when booking but they got nervous on the day, had to convince them that the takings would be worth it, eventually they relented and let more turn up. We even went for something to eat and to watch the West Brom game to scout it out beforehand. When the Tielemans goal flew in it was pandemonium, a patio heater got smashed to bits in the melee

Very few white under 25s I’ve met have MLE accents but admittedly I don’t know many people from inner city areas.

Most? No they don’t.

It’s inextricably linked to attendance and ground capacity too. If we had a 42k stadium now I think the perception would be a bit different - firmly in ‘big club’ territory rather than the middling high 20s/low 30s bunch. There’s a definitely a sense that northern clubs are just a bit more proper too.

Wyggeston House have some good deals on. Enjoy two steaks (with the option to upgrade to fillet for £4.50) accompanied by all the trimmings and a bottle of wine or prosecco for £34. Also a burger deal which I can't remember the specifics of.

I hate how recent success is somehow less legitimate or devalued through the general nostalgia bias in football. Had we won the league in 1976 and the cup in 1981, we'd be seen as a 'proper club'. Instead we're ephemeral upstarts.

YESSSDSSSSS

The 'logistics' is part of the spurious reason they turned down one in the Kop. So one on the family stand (where they also have to do nothing) would just be too much!

Should be a 1 day ban for everybody making yet another hilarious Nick Mashiter joke

The cope is starting I see

We have a complete merry go round behind the scenes. We have vacancies longer than people were in their post

I've repeatedly said he wouldn't be my first choice (not even on a shortlist of 10) but of the usual myopic set of targets Rudkin and Top would draw up, he's the best of those. He's far more accomplished than Martin, Gerrard, O'Neil etc. His sides have pressed higher than he gets credit for, a key tenet of a Dyche side is working hard out of possession and there's situational counter pressing. He's more Simeone than Allardyce but obviously much less talented. Again, as a clued up football fan I'm not advocating for him a priority but our board aren't landing progressive names from the continent, we operate like how an alcoholic pub bore would run a club. His most recent signings at Everton were O'Brien (classic), Ndiaye, Iroegbunam (PSR move?), Lindstrom on loan, then some other crap frees and loans - pretty solid business. Sub £50m spend and about £30m up overall. Year before Beto (looks pretty good now, classic Dyche signing), Chermiti looks a bust, plus other crap frees and loans. 22/23 is quite Dyche-y but that was his first window. He's signed enough decent players too all the while they've made net profits. Essentially we could do a lot worse it'd just require sensible signings that would work for both him and future managers but we can't do that, irrespective of the manager.

We have 1 striker and he has a year left on his deal (Daka). Midfield is pretty threadbare anyway, you'd expect Winks, Ndidi and Soumare to be off. It's a bit of a blank slate. We could sign players that would be suited to Dyche and non-Dyche managers. E.g Salech - the trouble is it requires a DoF and recruitment team to see further than their nose.

I'm actually a bit fed up of defending Dyche but people keep making straw man arguments about him. Burnley had the faculties of a League 1 club, e.g training ground, recruitment set up, academy set up - he got them up twice, kept them up and finished 7th with them. Eventually it went stale but were just miles off being a modern PL club still, of which maybe he can carry some of the blame but a manager can't go against the tide forever. At Everton, their squad was absolutely dogshit and somehow expensively assembled, the ownership was shambolic at this point and he kept them up twice (at our expense). Moyes took over amongst the backdrop of a takeover and new ground, it's a fresh start and a completely different mood. He's been at clubs with pretty different circumstances to where we are now, that might mean he is a bad fit but in the absence of good youth prospects at Burnley and Everton it doesn't automatically mean he'd bin Alves off and play Reid or whatever.

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I think the midtable sides are just good now it’s completely compressed the league (less the bottom 3). Palace, Fulham, Brentford, Bournemouth are genuinely good teams and they’re just closer to the top rather than the big sides are worse necessarily

He is such a loser

We've had two out of three of our best eras in the the last 30 or so years. The best thing 80% of Forest fans have ever seen is lifting the play off final trophy

So many people in the football media are so far removed from what it’s like to be a fan - they should have the self-awareness to just shut up on occasion. It’s a complete bubble of crap ex-pros and they’re mostly of room temperature intelligence too. At least Shearer, Neville, Carragher had incredible careers. Sutton, Murphy, Richards were toss.