Iwebema

When you can play that well, the opposition play that poorly and still lose 2-0. It's hard to have much faith. Where are you picking up points if you cant in a game like this? We should be building for the championship next season now, but that would require a forward thinking football operation who have a plan

Whoever appointed Cooper and allowed him access to build this squad is the reason we will get relegated. Squad is not good enough, and it's not like we didn't have money to spend, barely any of the signings can break into the 1st team. As a club we have not kept up with the premier league, the standard of the football operations have left us in the dust. Going from Enzo to Cooper was utterly bonkers at the time and now to a novice manager who is having to pick up an injured unbalanced squad with no money in the hardest league in the world, he never stood a chance. I'm aware it's not just Rudkin, but the whole operation under and around him needs a huge refresh, we lucked in with Enzo and he called it all out for the amatuer approach it appears to be to us fans and since then it feels like we've turned to people who will just nod along and not question anything. A few have said it and I have to agree, nothing will change, we will never get back to being a stable premier league club until there are major changes in how the club operates, we are so far behind its laughable, still doing things like its football 10/15 years ago.

I dont really know what people want him to do. The set up was spot on, the game plan was. He mixed it up and went 442 which also worked. Palace were never really in it, the players are just not good enough. You can't say we didn't create chances, just didn't take them and then we are so weak at the back. I think the decision to bring cooper in and piss 80m on poor signings has killed us, the premier league standard just gets better and we haven't done enough to match it

And that is probably relegation sealed. We can't defend. Palace have barely been in it. 2 chances. 2 goals.

I mean, everyone's smashing ruud....and so far we've had 3 great chances....

No probably 8

If you can play this well and still go 1 down. It doesn't bode well, the quality of the players isn't good enough. Pissed the season away giving the summer and the start of the season to cooper.

Excellent half, just haven't scored. Whilst vardy has been wasteful, he's leading by example, scrapping for everything and the team is following.

Set up is spot on, playing really well, just got to execute. Such a shame we didn't have a more progressive manager from day 1, you can see week to week what RVN is trying to do. The worry is just the quality of player being able to do it.

Playing well again, waiting for the brain fart to go 1-0 down 😅

Very lucky to get anything from this, they ran their race for about 60 and have been absolutely battered

I don't think we can do it anyway without a loan going back. A short term loan wouldn't be awful business, whilst he's not brilliant..neither are we 😅

He went in to hard too early on all the fake leaks and it's 2025 Internet culture, never ever admit you were wrong, if anything double down in a more angry way

This is what PSR is meant to prevent, which it does and that's a good thing, you don't want clubs billions in debt to a wealthy owner. 👍 The issue is it came in too late and the "big 6" already started on an unfair level, having commercial revenues so far ahead of everyone else, the only way to really compete now is to increase yours to their levels, but to do that you need to keep churning your playing staff by feeding the best to the "big 6" In order to comply. Anchoring to me would be fair, or having an average max amount of commercial revenue apply to PSR. I certainly think there are other ways to do it that are more pro competition. But agree it can't be just allowing rich people to pump money in and then leave when they get bored and ask for it all back.

He doesn't even know what he's moaning about, he can't believe the decision that he doesn't understand or has any information on. But he's also sure it's wrong. Just a complete nob

What a complete and utter melt

I think they genuinely just said "it's not really in the spirit of the rules" I think the PL were just trying to save face a bit, but internally they know they have dropped a clanger. Nothing says we made these rules up on the fly with no real consideration other than to protect the big clubs like all the loopholes and sloppy legal text thats being identified.

It's a never ending cycle essentially, multiple clubs will be here every January trying to figure out if they have managed to comply with these ridiculous rules

There have been a few strange articles. I wouldn't say this is as bad as that fluff piece at the start of the season, but it certainly misses the point....it talks about 4/5 years of failures with transfers and managers with differing styles and opinions on previous managers signings. But then suggests its a team effort. My take would be there is one constant in all that and it's this current board and him in particular, their maybe other failings beneath him but he is meant to oversee all of this. From what little I know, the issue those that want him gone is the players ( maybe just a group, not clear on the numbers) like him, largely because he sorts them out with big contracts and promotional deals etc. I've heard one member of the senior team say he's being used as the scapegoat. But I just go back to the above and think if it's not him then who the hell is it that's making these poor decisions for almost 5 years?

I doubt he would if he has ambitions of a career in management, 2 walk outs in 2 jobs isn't a good look. But considering he was never that interested in management in the first place it's a possibility. If there's one club that could put someone off being a manager for life it's certainly us in our current state! Ha One thing we need to do as fans is support him and the team, we can't control the potential psr issues and general madness above him, but we can give him and the team a lift.

These are the types of signings we should be making, I don't know alot about him, but we should be focusing on young upcoming cheaper prospects who have been well scouted rather than cast offs from other premier league teams.

Perhaps we need to create some kind of role at the club where someone oversees some kind of football direction, playing style, transfer philosophy etc. 😅

Totally agree, I think both options are on the table if we go down, it might be 1 step back to take 2 forward, a bit like the relegation to league one. I do believe this comes down to competence, I think Top cares, maybe not as much as Vichai but certainly more than some nightmare owners. The problem imo is he is not a football guy and he's surrounded himself with a bunch of chancers who 10 years ago may have stood a chance, but the game has grown significantly and they are now well out of their depth but he hasn't got it in him to sack them until it gets so bad his hand his forced....I think this possible relegation given the EFL are frothing at the mouth for us may be a turning point for something to happen.

Weve seen transfer windows like this, I would prepare for the worst. The complete lack of links, Tanner suggesting we aren't close to anyone, PSR rumours left and right. We might get a defender in on loan at most, but I think we've blown our load in the summer and there's not a great deal left to spend without moving players on which we are notoriously awful at.

Thanks, I was just flicking through and thinking how on earth can it be them they are getting premier league money every year and selling way more than buying.