honeybradger

Justin had a horror show season last year, maybe he would be a slight improvement on Thomas and Kristiansen but I dont think it would be enough to change results significantly. Good personality which we are lacking at the moment but realistically he had to go and to get £9mil for him was very good business.

We did well to sell Justin, Coady, Mcateer, Hermansen (could have gone for more but has struggled for form since his injury). The only player we sold in the summer that we're really missing is Ndidi, El Khannouss as well but he had to go.

Aluko does have a defensive brain fart in him but he's far more athletic, technical, and stronger than Kristiansen and Thomas, also makes better runs off the ball. I just cant understand his exclusion, he's one of the most threatening players in our u21s whilst being a defender yet he's not getting a shot when we dont create chances.

You're forgetting that Vardy was the player who bullied that West Brom player at the half way line then carried the ball halfway up the pitch to score the winner in the 3-2 win over a decade ago, that he was the player who scored the winner against Burnley that same season, the player who scored 11 in a row and won us the league, the player who scored at Sevilla, the player who scored 20 in the league in 17/18 despite getting 0 service. Vardy was one of the main reasons we were established in the Premier league in the first place, he always tried his hardest and fought to the very end. You cant blame him for being part of the culture that brought the club down when he was part of the culture that brought the club up originally. Cremonese seem to be doing fine with him over there in Italy whilst we're falling apart more than ever. Compare the fight he showed to bully that Juventus defender then score the other day and the mentality to pick the ball straight out of the net to how our players reacted to going down against Blackburn. Vardy was the last piece holding the dam together rather than the reason it was breaking apart.

Vardy oversaw the biggest rot in the dressing room Schmeichel leaving accelerated that rot but that rot was well under way whilst he was here. It was down to recruiting the wrong personality types and Rodgers being a wrong un himself, not Vardy. We had Fofana forcing his way out to Chelsea, which we knew would happen with how he left his previous club. We had our captain Evans being injured then magically recovering for Northern Ireland games. Tielemans being left to the last year of his contract. The introduction of Faes who blames everyone but himself for his mistakes. Ward who also arguing with the centrebacks over his own mistakes. Rodgers being a petulant child playing games with the board with substitutions because he didn't get any new transfers. I could go on but Vardy cant be asked to oversee that mess and turn it around, he's a senior member of the dressing room, not someone who is expected to manage all the players, and manager, and who we bring in.

Aluko has the athleticism to carry the ball up the pitch which the other two dont. In pre season we scored a couple goals from Aluko driving us up the pitch and making runs into the box and he was playing centreback at that time. We definitely need that athleticism in the team in the fullback position, surely getting first team minutes is better for his development rather than rotting in the u21s playing with players worse than him.

I genuinely think the butterfly effect of not playing Nelson has been significant. The gut punch feeling and ensuing boos as a result of Faes stepping onto the pitch for the first time this season against Wednesday, albeit he did score the winner, has resulted a stale atmosphere around the club. This was the season to freshen up and not playing Nelson who was quality at this level last season will end up being one of the worst mistakes in a litany of them over the last 5 years.

Probably the day we signed Oliver Skipp, knew the club hadnt learned their lesson and were going to continue the downwards trajectory. Then we signed 33 year old Jordan Ayew for £5mil whilst being linked to a £9mil loan for semi retired Zaha. The Sheffield Wednesday game this season was pretty bad when the penny dropped that the academy players were going to be sidelined.

You think the likes of Ricardo, Fatawu, James, Stolarczyk, Silko Thomas deserve to receive boos as a collective? It's not all of the players fault, just the majority.

I wish I could vote for all of them but you just cant ignore how bad the Oliver Skipp signing was.

Did a decent job at Bristol clearing out their high wage underperformers and had a decent crack at keeping Watford up that one time including beating Liverpool who were unbeaten so far that season.

Big difference between players lacking quality (Ayew, Reid) and players with some quality that threaten the opposition but it hasnt been coming off (Mavididi, Monga).

I will always prefer a winger that misses chances than a winger who does nothing i.e. Ayew, Reid. That being said he's been missing some serious sitters recently.

Defensively we are among the worst in the league. Stolarczyk has kept the scorelines reasonable thus far this season.

This season had to be a rebuild season where we restructured the squad around the academy and he has failed to deliver. That being said the worst thing we can do now is to sack him and bring in a new manager that tries to get a tune out of the senior pros. Obviously the best case scenario is we bring in a manager who favours the academy from the outset but I dont trust King Power to hire a manager without a 'win now' mission statement. The second best case scenario is we stick with Marti who is seeing how bad this squad really is and if he isnt stupid he's starting to understand that we're not going up and a rebuild is required and starts to play the academy talents more.

To be fair a lot of the fans were adamant that it was vital to keep Winks this season and that we couldnt replace him. Although I guess you expect a bit more expertise from the professionals running the club than your average fan. Winks has completely given up after putting a good shift in first half vs Hull, the most recent performances against Milwall and Blackburn today have been shocking. We need to move on from players like him that give up too easily.

Ruud being proven right every game.

We dont need a manager who gets this squad fighting. We need a manager who gets this squad out the door.

See you on the next match thread

Thomas needs be upgraded but Kristiansen is not that player. If it's between Thomas and Kristiansen then you start Thomas every day, Kristiansen is truly honking.

At this rate he'll go straight from the u18s to the first team.

He's not, played for our u21s last night. You're thinking of Page.

4-0, makes sense as there's not much quality in that side with players out on loan and at u17 world cup

2 goals for man city left back Seb Naylor.

1-0 Man City btw The left back Naylor scored, maybe one to look for on loan?