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Once Okoli is back and if Souttar is close, there is hope!

True. But he seems like a confidence player who will perform better when he feels appreciated so we have much more of a chance of it becoming 10/20 etc now the fans are showing him some love and appreciation!

I agree. Now I do have opinions I stick to, but if not proven otherwise. I.e Rodgers was a fraud. Proven correct. Nelson needed to play. Proven correct. I like to think where I have held a view that quite clearly requires some balance, that is there. I agree Marti has a way to go. He has been very underwhelming. But yesterday he got it pretty much spot on, bar maybe a bit to slow to make a couple of the changes. He also had Aluko and Page on and Evans in the squad. I believe Monga was ill? If, he can keep that up and not revert back to the tried and failed, and if we see more of that first half, then he gives himself more time. I think the second half was blown out of proportion. Derby never really looked like getting back into it in hindsight. The fear is more from the likelihood Leicester will f*** it up but we’ve been doing that forever. In my formative years supporting as a kid, I remember that Adam’s PL season 2023/24, results like 3-0 up to 4-3 down at Wolves and 3-1 up against Middlesbrough in stoppage time, 3-3. How many points from winning positions did we lose that year? More recently the Spurs 3-2 at home comes to mind. It was nothing to do with Derby themselves. We shoot ourselves in the foot multiple times every season and we didn’t yesterday. I said on the post match thread, last week was the other way and we weren’t happy and rightly so. Sheffield United had won the game and all our huffing and puffing to get back to 3-2 was meaningless. This week, we won the game in the fist half so if we are unhappy with last week, for balance, we should be pleased this week. We all want the 90 dominant performance but it’s a tight league and away from home, the home side is always going to have a spell in the game. We blew them away first half.

Quite a weird day in the Championship. 2 games abandoned which doesn’t really happen. Tragic events at Charlton. Devastating that anyone goes to a football match and don’t make it home. Blackburn fans must be fuming at their clubs inability to be able to play home games when it rains, particularly when winning both times. Bristol City going all ‘Millwall’ on well….Millwall!

Said it on the Nelson thread but I think Nelson has a positive effect on Vestergaard which in turn, benefits Thomas and we see a defence that whilst still not entirely confident, are digging in and battling. In contrast, Faes is just all over the place. A completely bombscare who has had the opposite effect on the rest of the defence. Even Ricardo has looked crap with Faes next to him and this is Ricky, who despite his age and previous injuries, talent and mentality wise, is streets ahead. And before his mum or auntie or stalker whoever she is chimes in. No Faes isn’t the only one who gets blamed. Look at the Winks thread. We just can’t stand players who don’t fight for the club and have a crap attitude. Faes was appreciated at the start but he has caused this by his own performances and disdain for the club. And yes, we will back players if they show us something. Skipp and Thomas have been slated no end in their threads when performing badly and look at both since full time yesterday. Fan appreciate the effort and attitude shown to try and turn things around. Whilst some fans may dig in with their criticism to not lose face, most will call it how it is and accept things can change.

I actually think when he has played, he has raised Vestergaard’s game which has in turn helped Thomas. Didn’t Thomas look quite good prior to Nelson’s injury too? Shows what a difference a steady head can make back there. For his age as well.

Played really well yesterday. Let’s see if he can keep this up as if he and Skipp can maintain what they showed yesterday, Nelson in defence, Mavididi back into form in recent weeks and Faes/Winks/Soumare banished, we could still have some hope this season.

I really hope he can build on this. The fact he has been spoken highly of on this thread shows that he is supported and backed. He has never had a poor attitude, he just seems to have been unfit, lacking in confidence and suffering from the stupid fee paid, which wasn’t his fault. If he can be developed into the partnership with James, with BDR/Ramsey/Page ahead, we should be well set for the rest of the season in that area.

True . Yep typo. So actually, we are the only ones who have laid a glove on them recently! That said, Wednesday and Portsmouth are pretty bad which were their two wins before us. And Stoke are in a massively false position based on the fact even we beat them and Daka scored!

Sheffield United on the march now as well. Last 4 games, 3-0, 3-0, 3-1, 4-0. Coventry, Middlesbrough, Ipswich, Southampton and Sheffield United look like the top 5 for me. Not sure who else will take the last play off place. Birmingham maybe.

Not for those of us who are up early for work/have a toddler who gets up in the night, and like to be in bed by 10 Might make an effort for the Panama game on the Saturday!

Really? Not really the attitude of a supporter is it…. It’s not a great look to be so intrenched in your views that you want the team to lose to say ‘I told you so’ basically. Personally I have been fed up with Cifuentes too. But I also don’t trust our incompetent board to improve things. So I just want wins and points on the board at the minute. Yourself and Winks have something in common. Both of you need to accept Maresca has gone.

Of course we need a striker who can score goals and of course Daka has not been good enough. In the context of the game yesterday and the post you have replied to, the goals had already been scored from midfield (fortunately), so yes, even if he wasn’t likely to score, having more pace to stretch Derby and pen them back would have helped. Someone said above about Ayew smashing it long from left back up to nobody as it should have been him up the pitch. Suggesting Daka would have been helpful, earlier on, yesterday is not defending his record or suggesting he is the guy to rely on for goals!

Norwich and Stoke last month (albeit broken up by the international break) and Charlton and Birmingham in August.

I agree. I have been very outspoken about his lack of involvement and think we have lost our chance to keep him. If he isn’t signing, better off trying to sell him in January or the summer as tribunal are unlikely to be better for us.

Great result and excellent first half performance. You could be critical that we dropped off in the second half, but basically it was last week in reverse. We have had enough games where we have started well but not driven our dominance home and dropped points (Portsmouth and Wrexham for example) and then games like last week when we had lost before we decided to play. Given we had the view last week that it was too little too late, surely the same principle applies to Derby today? Derby were poor anyway. We were only worried because it is Leicester and we know we can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. I’d have felt that against any side. It was nothing to do with Derby. I’m not sure they really troubled us. Skipp had a very good game. It has to be him and James together. Winks get out in Jan and Soumare if we can. BDR (actually carries a threat), Page and Ramsey when fit at 10. Nelson doing what those of us who backed him knew he would, despite the geniuses on here banging on about 45 minutes against Huddersfield 3 months later! I’m pleased he can play with Vestergaard rather than being seen as an alternative to. Thomas looked much more solid as well. He has also seemed better in the games Nelson has played. Fitness and injuries pending, probably the best line up currently; Stolarcryk Ricardo - Nelson - Vestergaard - Thomas James - Skipp Fatawu - BDR - Mavididi Daka Begovic Aluko Page Monga Ayew Choudhury Evans + 2 others I’d like to see Souttar given a chance but it does seem like Nelson drags Vestergaard’s level up so if they are the partnership, I can live with it for now. We still need a new LB as Thomas can’t seem to sustain the level he showed today enough. Centre mid is good and the 3 ahead but I would have Ramsey over BDR if fit and use BDR as an impact sub. I mean despite the fact we won with Ayew today and his ruled out goal was wrongly so, I still think of the strikers we currently have, we tend to look better as a team with Daka. But it’d be the fist position to improve on along with left back.

Concerning that there is no noise about a contract. Personally, I still think he has his eyes on a move elsewhere and we have left it too late to bring him in. He has made such a difference to the defence when playing. Criminal that he was left out as many of us said.

It is true that it could never be like supporting Leicester, that emotional attachment you get from a young age. I feel I have become much less interested in football outside of Leicester anyway. The last time I watched England was the Euro 2024 final. I rarely put any of a game on that isn’t Leicester. So I suspect my interest would fizzle out completely. But for the purposes of the question, I’d likely just follow my closest team which is Rotherham United.

This. Anyone who thinks it is genuine change is delusional. Like you say, Rudkin will still be calling the shots but they have realised they need a scapegoat to deflect blame to.

Hmm yeah maybe. Depends on interpretation. I guess maybe I am thinking he seems like a more grounded character than Maddison. But as another post above says, it is definitely the sort of comment that could come back to bite. And yes, nobody who thinks this team can end up in League 1 is out of their mind. We are performing like a side just above the relegation zone and a points deduction would ensure we end up in it.

I’m not sure it’s the same as Maddison. It comes across as more determined and showing fight than ‘oh it’ll be fine’. I agree about the second comment about PL quality. Maybe throwing down the challenge to his team mates to start proving themselves capable?

BuT tHiS iS oUr LeVeL…..

That’s the story. Personally I always felt it was a way to endear them to supporters. There’s always been a lack of acknowledgment of our history pre-2010, even when Vichai was with us. If the story was true, you’d think there would be more pride shown of those achievements. This is the irony of supporters who claim to have supported the club for 50 odd years and yet behave like a cult following, putting the owner above the club. They claim those who are calling out Aiyawatt/KP only started supporting the club from 2016 (complete BS), and yet unconditionally back an owner who thinks the club only mattered since 2010 when he arrived…

The more I think about it, I have come round to the MON idea. I think we need to get rid of Marti. It hasn’t worked and we are getting worse. He is somewhere on the scale of out of his depth to completely hopeless. But with these so called leadership positions to be filled, it makes sense not to go in with another long term, costly option. It feels like we just need a wise head to steady the ship in the immediate term. Someone like MON, Mowbray or to a lesser extent Pearson are wise old heads. They wouldn’t be worried about their future employment prospects being at the end of successful careers and would be more likely to just do what is right by the club by virtue of not having their own agenda. That said, would Aiyawatt even know who MON is? I’m not sure he knows anything about the club before they took over.

Yep. Same as when people said the same about our promotion back in 2014. But at the time, we had spent a lot under Sven and failed. By the time we were promoted, Pearson and his team had massively brought costs down. We then won the league with a low cost squad. Even after that, the FA cup and European qualifications were achieved with minimal net spend due to big sales and the wages hadn’t shot up at that point. Actually, it is when we let spending get out of control that we fail completely. 2010-12 time and again in the past few years. Nobody could claim we overspend to gain an advantage as we have done the opposite twice in the past 15 years whilst our achievements have come through low spend.