Schlupp to Swansea

[RedSoxUK]

I think people overestimate player potential, Schlupp won't improve much more

 

why.

[Guest]

At 22 Cambiasso was good enough to play for Real Madrid.

Jeff is 22 does anyone think he's good enough to play for Real Madrid?

 

Not sure why you keep banging on about Cambiasso in a Schlupp thread. I've been suspended several times for talking about him in threads. Col simply said that more teams would want Jeff next season than Cambi, Jeff's 22, dangerous and on the way up, Cambi is on the verge of retirement only simple people would argue against Taking Jeff on a new contract next season over Cambiasso. I hope this is not seen as ban worthy.

[Guest]

No, just the one league assist. And I think that was his cross that he absolutely smashed the ball into the box on the half volley. One of the best crosses I've ever seen, if only he had meant it. Could have gone anywhere.

There's no excuse for a premier league winger to create so little. Add to that the fact that he's a regular ball loser, liable to wander around aimlessly, and is a defensive liability, pace and strength is all he has going for him, and it's not as if he's particularly strong. He's quite a lanky bloke really.

 

But as good a passing percentage as the great one.

[st albans fox]

No, just the one league assist. And I think that was his cross that he absolutely smashed the ball into the box on the half volley. One of the best crosses I've ever seen, if only he had meant it. Could have gone anywhere.

There's no excuse for a premier league winger to create so little. Add to that the fact that he's a regular ball loser, liable to wander around aimlessly, and is a defensive liability, pace and strength is all he has going for him, and it's not as if he's particularly strong. He's quite a lanky bloke really.

Not in the same class as JV's assist for king against West Ham. And his cross for Leo against Utd. Defo meant that didn't he? you can't pick and choose can you? Jeff has been an a important part of the team. He has pros and cons - just like all the others.

I wouldn't want to sell a player as versatile as Jeff (and capable. He's only 22 ffs).

[Leeds Fox]

But as good a passing percentage as the great one.

How many passes as he attempted in comparison? Also, knocking it down the line to a winger, or playing it inside to a centre back who has nobody around him isn't too difficult. Even when on the wing, he often comes to a dead end and plays a simple ball to someone offering an outlet. Nothing wrong with that at all, however it skews the argument somewhat. People playing in the middle, where its congested and you're often overun is much more difficult. Especially when you get the ball and half of the team is still behind you.

Anyway, my point was going to be, would Jeff really suit a team who like to dominate possession. He's great flying down the wing, on the counter and just causing the opposition's right side problems. With Swansea'a patient passing game, would this really allow Jeff to flourish? Maybe so, maybe he can be coached into that type of player. If a decent enough offer comes in, I'd sell, but I wouldn't be desperate to as he suits our style of play, and only if a replacement is lined up.

Of the wingers, who would people rather see leave from Schlupp, Knocky and Mahrez. Each have their pros and cons.

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

Knocky by a country mile, hasn't been near the team in months, least potential of the 3 and out of contract in the summer, no room for sentiment.

[Guest]

I'd say that Jeff, Riyad and Vardy would be the 3 players the most sought after on our team by other prem teams with Riyad being slightly ahead of Jeff then Vards. James would possibly be the 4th.

[Guest ttfn]

Not in the same class as JV's assist for king against West Ham. And his cross for Leo against Utd. Defo meant that didn't he? you can't pick and choose can you? Jeff has been an a important part of the team. He has pros and cons - just like all the others.

I wouldn't want to sell a player as versatile as Jeff (and capable. He's only 22 ffs).

I wouldn't go as far as Moose on this but whether you "pick and choose" or not, Vardy's output has been far more prolific than Schlupp's in (probably) less game time.

[Guest Col city fan]

I'd say that Jeff, Riyad and Vardy would be the 3 players the most sought after on our team by other prem teams with Riyad being slightly ahead of Jeff then Vards. James would possibly be the 4th.

For me it would be Schlupp, then Vardy, then Mahrez

If we don't stay up (I think we will....), then Huth will stay in the Prem, either with Stoke or another team.

I can't see another Prem team coming in for any of our other players. James isn't good enough I don't think. He looks like a good Championship player.

[Leeds Fox]

For me it would be Schlupp, then Vardy, then Mahrez

If we don't stay up (I think we will....), then Huth will stay in the Prem, either with Stoke or another team.

I can't see another Prem team coming in for any of our other players. James isn't good enough I don't think. He looks like a good Championship player.

I think if we stay up, James will have proved himself. Had we taken chances and had decisions go our way and in some cases not been so unlucky (yes these things can even themselves out), and we were safe, nobody would doubt James' top flight quality.

[Soar Fox]

silly post really, Cambiasso is at the end of his career.

Schlupp in 2 years could interest R.Madrid, depends if he can transpire to his possible potential.

Even, If not he may still be good enough for the foxes.

Cambiasso hasnt got 3 full seasons left in him.1 maybe 2, thats all.

Why's it a silly post? Someone was saying more teams would want Schluup, yes they probably would but that's only because of the age difference.

Why don't you compare them both at the same age, one was at Real Madrid at 22 the other one is at Leicester.

Let's see in 12 years how much influence Jeff is in a team and what he's achieved in his career by the time he's 34.

[shailen]

Why's it a silly post? Someone was saying more teams would want Schluup, yes they probably would but that's only because of the age difference.

Why don't you compare them both at the same age, one was at Real Madrid at 22 the other one is at Leicester.

Let's see in 12 years how much influence Jeff is in a team and what he's achieved in his career by the time he's 34.

Because no one is denying that Cambiasso was much better than Jeff at 22. It's about who the most attractive player to other teams is. Cambiasso is a short term option and may only have 1 season left in him at the very top. You can't compare across eras because I bet Pele was a top player at 22.

[Gerard]

Why's it a silly post? Someone was saying more teams would want Schluup, yes they probably would but that's only because of the age difference.

Why don't you compare them both at the same age, one was at Real Madrid at 22 the other one is at Leicester.

Let's see in 12 years how much influence Jeff is in a team and what he's achieved in his career by the time he's 34.

 

Tune in for his next post when his next astonishing revelation will be that......................

 

dogs chase cats. 

[Guest]

For me it would be Schlupp, then Vardy, then Mahrez

If we don't stay up (I think we will....), then Huth will stay in the Prem, either with Stoke or another team.

I can't see another Prem team coming in for any of our other players. James isn't good enough I don't think. He looks like a good Championship player.

Yet Huth goes without saying but he's not our player (yet!).

 

James is young and developing well. I could see a lower end (or promoted) team come in for him if we were to be relegated.

[Guest]

Why's it a silly post? Someone was saying more teams would want Schluup, yes they probably would but that's only because of the age difference.

Why don't you compare them both at the same age, one was at Real Madrid at 22 the other one is at Leicester.

Let's see in 12 years how much influence Jeff is in a team and what he's achieved in his career by the time he's 34.

 

That's another silly post. They are not the same age?

 

Do you want Bobby Charlton in your team next season?

[Soar Fox]

Because no one is denying that Cambiasso was much better than Jeff at 22. It's about who the most attractive player to other teams is. Cambiasso is a short term option and may only have 1 season left in him at the very top. You can't compare across eras because I bet Pele was a top player at 22.

Schluup is the next Pele isn't he?

[Leeds Fox]

Whoever said that Schlupp has the potential to be as good as Cambiasso was/is has certainly started something here. There's no way he will ever be as good as Estaban. People can be coached skills, but you can't teach someone to have the footballing brain that Cambiasso has, that's a natural gift. No amount of athleticism will ever make up for it. On the amount of teams who'd want each player, then 1 year and its Cambiasso, any more and its Schlupp. Esteban is better now, but he's 34(?) so again, where's the argument?

[ithuriel]

Would rather him not go, good utility player down the left with lots of pace and strength.

[Guest Col city fan]

I didn't think the debate was about who the better player is? (For me, that's Cambiasso).

But about which of our players is more likely to join another Prem club should we get relegated?

I've said all season I doubt any other Prem team would come in for Cambi. If we go down, I suspect he would go to somewhere like China or back to South America.

Schlupp I think will stay in the Prem, either with us or another side.

[Stadt]

Things like positioning can improve but poor technique, a complete lack of a footballing brain and a lack of composure mean Schlupp will never progress from an inconsistent utility player.

Yeah he's useful but there's more dangerous and promising players out there. Dyer wasn't a great footballer but he was effective, I don't even think Schlupp uses his pace as effectively.

[MooseBreath]

He uses his pace to get past people sometimes and that can get him into some good positions, which is where it usually goes wrong. Pace alone doesn't get you into enough good positions, you need skill as well and I don't think ever seen Jeff use skill to get past a defender, or at best very rarely. Whereas Mahrez does it half a dozen times every game.

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

Things like positioning can improve but poor technique, a complete lack of a footballing brain and a lack of composure mean Schlupp will never progress from an inconsistent utility player.

Yeah he's useful but there's more dangerous and promising players out there. Dyer wasn't a great footballer but he was effective, I don't even think Schlupp uses his pace as effectively.

 

I remember games, in fact runs of games where Dyer did more harm than good, when he was good he was very good but when he was bad he was atrocious, much like Jeff.

[Soar Fox]

Schluup to score the winner today & get MOTM.

[Number 6]

There's only one Jeffrey,

He's next to Rob Huth,

He's called Jeffrey Schlupp, Jeffrey Schlupp, Jeffrey Schlupp.