Next Leader of the Opposition

[Guest MattP]

Fair enough, speaking of that sort of politics the Jewish Cronicle today put on it's front page the questions they still want him to answer after refusing to do so, I hope he does.

 

If Mr Corbyn is not to be regarded from the day of his election as an enemy of Britain’s Jewish community, he has a number of questions which he must answer in full and immediately. The JC asked him earlier this week to respond. No response has been forthcoming.

 

1. Did you donate, as alleged by its founder, to Deir Yassin Remembered (DYR), a group that publishes open antisemitism, run by Holocaust denier Paul Eisen — an organisation so extreme that even the Palestine Solidarity Campaign refuses to associate with it?

 

2. Have you, as Mr Eisen claims, regularly attended DYR’s annual conference?

 

3. Why have you accepted an invitation to appear at a conference on August 22 alongside Carlos Latuff, the notorious anti-Semitic cartoonist?

 

4. Why did you write to the Church of England authorities to defend Rev Stephen Sizer, a vicar banned from social media because of his habit of posting anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, telling them that Rev Sizer was “under attack” because he had “dared to speak out over Zionism”?

 

5. Why do you associate with Hamas and Hezbollah and refer to them as your “friends”?

 

6. Why have you failed to condemn the anti-Semitic posters and banners that dominate the annual Al-Quds Day rally, sponsored by the Stop The War Coalition, which you chair?

 

7. Why did you describe Raead Salah, a man convicted of the blood libel, as an ‘honoured citizen’?

[Guest Bilo]

Those are questions he needs to answer - failure to do so will have the press battering him, and rightly so. 

[Claridge]

The communist is going to win

Blair will face trial on war crimes

Fingers crossed

Labour will split

New labour and Socialist labour

Torys will rule for 20 years

And the SNP will declare war

One can but dream.after 20 yrs it's not labour that returns to bankrupt the richest nation on earth is it?

[Frank to be]

One can but dream.after 20 yrs it's not labour that returns to bankrupt the richest nation on earth is it?

The richest nation on earth

Typical tory, still thinks the British empire is alive and well

[Claridge]

The richest nation on earth

Typical tory, still thinks the British empire is alive and well

'After 20 years of tory rule'. I was being ironic,but 20 years without labour in power would be a good start

[Guest Bilo]

Ah, the good old Labour Bankrupted The Country fairytale.

It wasn't too many teachers or investment in the NHS and Surestart that caused the recession. It's fantasy economics, yet is so widely believed by so many.

[The Doctor]

http://news.sky.com/story/1536004/voters-more-likely-to-choose-corbyn-led-labour

So for all the claims that he's unelectable, voters would be most likely to vote for him out of all the candidates in the GE.

[johnny the fox]

http://news.sky.com/story/1536004/voters-more-likely-to-choose-corbyn-led-labour

So for all the claims that he's unelectable, voters would be most likely to vote for him out of all the candidates in the GE.

Mmmmm and who owns sky? 

[Guest Bilo]

If this election has taught us anything, it's to mistrust polls. Let's be honest here, this is the stage where people will just jump on the latest social media bandwagon. There isn't a slither of doubt that this mentality, rather than a genuine political epiphany, is fuelling Corbynmania.

Also, this is about an election that's five years away and a leader whose policies haven't been scrutinised yet. You also need to consider what happens when the honeymoon period is over and the adulation dries up. He's receiving North Korea style hero worship among many at the moment, but it has no longevity.

[Guest Bilo]

Mmmmm and who owns sky?

Good point. Murdoch would love Corbyn as Labour leader, easiest hatchet job his papers will ever have.

[The Doctor]

Mmmmm and who owns sky?

When whoever labour put in will struggle unless the Tories try to take the piss and see if pinning a rosette on any celebrity works, I don't think Murdoch really cares that much. Corbyns support for anti-Semitic groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, as well as for terrorists like the IRA is a nice open target for labours opponents, but Murdoch really won't be orchestrating a campaign to shift a few more units in five years time; this'll be corbynmania rolling along waiting to burst.

Besides, even if he would kill labour, I'd argue it's for the best; the left in this country's a sick old man, tainted with moronic weirdy beardys like the greens (a supporter of whom accused me of being a Farage fan in May because I said their policies on nuclear power and GMOs were founded on fear rather than facts and were naive at best), raving loonies like Galloway, and the unescapable accusations of trashing the economy like the who in a hotel room. At this point it's too far gone, the left needs to die to get rid of the baggage and then revive itself.

[Guest MattP]

When whoever labour put in will struggle unless the Tories try to take the piss and see if pinning a rosette on any celebrity works, I don't think Murdoch really cares that much. Corbyns support for anti-Semitic groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, as well as for terrorists like the IRA is a nice open target for labours opponents, but Murdoch really won't be orchestrating a campaign to shift a few more units in five years time; this'll be corbynmania rolling along waiting to burst.

Besides, even if he would kill labour, I'd argue it's for the best; the left in this country's a sick old man, tainted with moronic weirdy beardys like the greens (a supporter of whom accused me of being a Farage fan in May because I said their policies on nuclear power and GMOs were founded on fear rather than facts and were naive at best), raving loonies like Galloway, and the unescapable accusations of trashing the economy like the who in a hotel room. At this point it's too far gone, the left needs to die to get rid of the baggage and then revive itself.

 

That could be absolutely spot on.

 

The Tories shouldn't get too excited either about them dying, they need the Labour party to survive, the pair of them are like two corpses holding each other up at the minute, you only vote for one because you are scared of the other being in power.

[Guest MattP]

Nigel Farage throws his weight behind Corbyn.

 

Anti-Corbyn Labour rhetoric has now hit levels of hysteria. All of the great and the good are saying what a catastrophe Mr. Corbyn may be. It reminds me of my own press in the run up to the European Elections.

 

The effect of all of that was that we still came first, as will Mr. Corbyn. And whilst I have absolutely no faith in the wisdom of his economics, his victory is seriously good news for the ‘No’ campaign in the forthcoming EU referendum.

 

Under Corbyn, there will be a debate about TTIP, about the way Greece has been treated, and about the role of national parliaments and democracy.

 

I have no idea which side of the fence Mr. Corbyn himself will come down on, but I feel the Left is finally waking up to what a corporatist, big business club the EU really is.

 

I have to say I hope he wins. The best news of all? A Corbyn win will be the death of the Green Party. Hooray.

 

 

 

[johnny the fox]

When whoever labour put in will struggle unless the Tories try to take the piss and see if pinning a rosette on any celebrity works, I don't think Murdoch really cares that much. Corbyns support for anti-Semitic groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, as well as for terrorists like the IRA is a nice open target for labours opponents, but Murdoch really won't be orchestrating a campaign to shift a few more units in five years time; this'll be corbynmania rolling along waiting to burst.

Besides, even if he would kill labour, I'd argue it's for the best; the left in this country's a sick old man, tainted with moronic weirdy beardys like the greens (a supporter of whom accused me of being a Farage fan in May because I said their policies on nuclear power and GMOs were founded on fear rather than facts and were naive at best), raving loonies like Galloway, and the unescapable accusations of trashing the economy like the who in a hotel room. At this point it's too far gone, the left needs to die to get rid of the baggage and then revive itself.

The left needs to die? then whats left?   the right, and the far right...and the limp center, 

[The Doctor]

The left needs to die? then whats left? the right, and the far right...and the limp center,

The far right isn't taken seriously and beyond the edl has no substance, while the right is limping to the barn, relying on people's fear of the loony left as much as the left is a dead beast proped up by the fear of the evil tories. Keep going with the likes of Cooper, Kendall or Burnham and the death rattles are dragged out. Put it out of its misery and it can be reborn something better - same for the right

[cityfanlee23]

Here is to hoping corbyn gets into power,

As a tory voter, I have to admit this is probable one of the most right wing governments we've ever had, far more right than Maggie.

 

There is no place in the UK for a full socialist government, it simply does not work and has been proven time and time again.

Capitalism works better, but it needs reform, we are in the pockets of large corporations and other capitalist nations, and it's got to a point we have lost all sense of moral toward our own people, that we have people on the streets who don't get offered help, yet we go abroad and offer our welfare and public services to millions of migrants.

 

We need to make sure the opportunity is there for EVERYONE no matter what background to get on the ladder and make somthing of themselves, Under capitalism the chances for all are greatly improved with business and the economy thriving from tax cuts (which actually increases tax revenue from business expansion and foreign investment) and more people in work,

That said, Unfortunately although the speed of oppotunity is fantastic, those unlucky enough to miss the ladder or find themselves unable to take an opportunity or those who simply do not crave wealth, and just want an easy working life, they are left behind completely, and this needs to stop.

 

At the end of the day we all live in this country, and we are all human.

 

We need a better way to sort out those fit for work, and those unfit, to make sure we cut the welfare bill of those who take it for granted, and help those who really need it more generously.

 

 

 

Jeremy Corbyn is about as far left as I've ever seen, This plays into Tory hands ultimately, because as long as Jeremy is in power, labour are a spent force,

However his presence in parliament as Leader of the opposition will effectively force those morals into discussion more prominently, He will obviously be popular because there is still an old socialist mind-set in a lot of our country, and this will put pressure on the Tories.

 

I believe in capitalism, A fairer, reformed capitalism.

 

The thought of Jeremy Corbyn somehow getting into power is scary though, Back to the 70's if that happened.

[Stadt]

Far more right than Thatcher's government?

[Jimothy]

Yay, Dapper Laughs is back giving his enlightened view on politics, just what we need

[Claridge]

Here is to hoping corbyn gets into power,

As a tory voter, I have to admit this is probable one of the most right wing governments we've ever had, far more right than Maggie.

 

There is no place in the UK for a full socialist government, it simply does not work and has been proven time and time again.

Capitalism works better, but it needs reform, we are in the pockets of large corporations and other capitalist nations, and it's got to a point we have lost all sense of moral toward our own people, that we have people on the streets who don't get offered help, yet we go abroad and offer our welfare and public services to millions of migrants.

 

We need to make sure the opportunity is there for EVERYONE no matter what background to get on the ladder and make somthing of themselves, Under capitalism the chances for all are greatly improved with business and the economy thriving from tax cuts (which actually increases tax revenue from business expansion and foreign investment) and more people in work,

That said, Unfortunately although the speed of oppotunity is fantastic, those unlucky enough to miss the ladder or find themselves unable to take an opportunity or those who simply do not crave wealth, and just want an easy working life, they are left behind completely, and this needs to stop.

 

At the end of the day we all live in this country, and we are all human.

 

We need a better way to sort out those fit for work, and those unfit, to make sure we cut the welfare bill of those who take it for granted, and help those who really need it more generously.

 

 

 

Jeremy Corbyn is about as far left as I've ever seen, This plays into Tory hands ultimately, because as long as Jeremy is in power, labour are a spent force,

However his presence in parliament as Leader of the opposition will effectively force those morals into discussion more prominently, He will obviously be popular because there is still an old socialist mind-set in a lot of our country, and this will put pressure on the Tories.

 

I believe in capitalism, A fairer, reformed capitalism.

 

The thought of Jeremy Corbyn somehow getting into power is scary though, Back to the 70's if that happened.

There is opportunity for everyone,free education and healthcare. Why do millions of migrants want to come to Britain? Because they know  that if they work hard they can achieve. Millions of people from 'poorer areas ' have worked hard and have done well.The left needs to admit that many people are basically lazy and don't want to work instead of blaming the tories,thatcher ,blah ,blah,blah.

[johnny the fox]

Just witnessing Gordon Brown pacing up and down like a tiger in a cage at the zoo.... and trying to save the Labour party...sorry ladies and gents...they are finished...the man has the charisma of a ball point pen.... think history has overtaken this party...

[BoneDog]

I've had a quick look at the candidates and the only one who seems remotely Prime Minister like, or real opposition, is Corbyn. 

 

[Guest Bilo]

In what world does Corbyn look like a future PM?

[Buce]

A world where people are fed-up of choosing between Tory and Tory-lite?

[Strokes]

A world where people are fed-up of choosing between Tory and Tory-lite?

It's funny, UKIP supporter were being mocked for this, not that long ago.

[BoneDog]

In what world does Corbyn look like a future PM?

 

I'm not saying he will be PM or that he'd be a good PM.

 

I don't know much about any of them but I watched a few interviews with each candidate and he was the only one that I felt might be a half decent opposition leader. The thought of one of the others being opposition leader or PM doesn't fill me with hope.

 

The Fabian thing would put me off voting for either of them to be honest. I'm not fond of wolves in sheep's clothing and wouldn't be surprised if any of these candidates were members.