Bilo Posted 28 September 2015 Share Posted 28 September 2015 Not much sympathy for the protestors - why attack a local business run by two brothers rather than the multinational tax dodgers like Starbucks? A very poor way of expressing a valid point - that the gentrification of London is pricing out many of those who've called it home for generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rincewind Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 It seems that most people do not have sympathy for them. I can understand why from reading posts on here and talking to people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 Not much sympathy for the protestors - why attack a local business run by two brothers rather than the multinational tax dodgers like Starbucks? A very poor way of expressing a valid point - that the gentrification of London is pricing out many of those who've called it home for generations. They should just do what they did to anyone else who had a problem with "outsiders" coming into their community and completely changing it for the 60 years - smear them as racist. Ironically I bet these are the last people who would have protested against that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMX11 Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 http://order-order.com/2015/09/29/corbyn-orders-mcdonnell-give-em-a-wave/#:e4pheFNZpaRXBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 Not much sympathy for the protestors - why attack a local business run by two brothers rather than the multinational tax dodgers like Starbucks? A very poor way of expressing a valid point - that the gentrification of London is pricing out many of those who've called it home for generations. I doubt that the protesters will be local people anyway. Probably some upper-class prats who think they are revolutionaries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 Another day another Nazi reference at the conference. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34381500 Government plans to make striking workers wear official armbands on the picket line are similar to Nazi attempts to victimise trade unions, the head of Unite has said. Len McCluskey told Labour's conference his members would not comply with the proposal in the Trade Union Bill. He said the Nazis made trade unionists wear armbands with red triangles "in the concentration camps of Dachau". When a parties biggest donor is led by someone like this it's hard to see them wnining an election, I really hope we don't just get five years of this, give us some policy to scrutinise please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 Corbyn speech at 2.15 - though sounds like it's going to be a bit dull with no policy to speak of. Won't top last year's classic when Ed spent 80 minutes talking and forgot to mention the economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 Ah man. Len just totally Godwin'd in public. That's my union n'all. Standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 He's not been able to contain himself since Corbyn got elected. He was stealing balls from the daily politics and apparantly last night was running around pissed up tickling people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rincewind Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 Have you been out with him on the town again Matt? You're a bad influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 I'd rather have root canal work than share a drink with Len McCluskey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rincewind Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/labour-reveals-21-broken-promises-6537411#ICID=FB_mirror_main Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 Love how the first lie is "No Child Benefit Cuts" then in the explanation it actually says "technically it hasn't been cut but it's frozen" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rincewind Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 According to the Office for Budget Responsibility that means the first child rate will have fallen 14.4% in real terms over a decade. Excuse number one 20 to go. I am pleased that you are loving the promises broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sphericalfox Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 I see Corbyn is seeking a Kinder politics. Might be a competition in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 So it hasn't been cut then Ken? How about number 9 - the failed promise that we'll be running a surplus by 2019 - do I need to point the obvious in that broken promise or can you see it yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 According to the Office for Budget Responsibility that means the first child rate will have fallen 14.4% in real terms over a decade. Excuse number one 20 to go. I am pleased that you are loving the promises broken. I'm in total shock. Politicians making promises they couldn't keep. Have there been any examples of governments that didn't do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 I'm in total shock. Politicians making promises they couldn't keep. Have there been any examples of governments that didn't do this? I was going to say the same!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 Good points about his speech: Honest, straight forward, liked the appeal for calm and civil politics free from personal abuse, right to question Saudi Arabia and our involvement in them. Some strong social policy statements. Bad points: No mention of Iran or other states just as bad as Saudis, the ridiculous sight of Len "them Tory bastards" McCluskey standing and applauding the "no abuse" plea. Didn't even mention the deficit (is that a regular thing now at Labour conferences) or give an inkling of how he'll pay for the things he wants given it will require astronomical public spending. All in all what I expected, a pitch to his supporters rather than the country, I think he's not intending to talk about policy for a while, expect Labour to look very different before he does, I'd expect more than a slight purge on dissenting voices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 Sorry to butt in on your political debate but can any of you computery types show the picture of Corbyn in todays Telegraph ...... I'd swear his right leg is 10 times bigger than a normal blokes !! It reminds me of when humans turned into werewolves in that film with Patrick McNee .... He must have just been on the turn when the lucky snapper got that one in a million shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 Another day another Nazi reference at the conference. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34381500 When a parties biggest donor is led by someone like this it's hard to see them wnining an election, I really hope we don't just get five years of this, give us some policy to scrutinise please. Wouldn't it be better to scrutinise the policies that matter? Those being put in place by the Conservative government. You don't seem to talk about them anymore only Corbyn and his followers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rincewind Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 Wouldn't it be better to scrutinise the policies that matter? Those being put in place by the Conservative government. You don't seem to talk about them anymore only Corbyn and his followers. I wonder why? And yes breaking promises is nothing new for politicians. Labour governments have also done it. But the Tory's were elected on those promises. They said the NHS was safe with them yet they are selling chunks of it off. Nurse have received just 1% pay rise and working more hours. Doctors are leaving the country for better conditions. It is not rosy for everyone. Corbyn may not be perfect but at least he is trying to engage with people that have felt they were being ignored before. He is trying to change the way people view politicians after so many have been disillusioned with them over the years. He may well have to make compromises regarding his ideals but at least he cares for the ordinary man on the street, the young, the disabled the sick and the low paid worker, something that has been missing and brought about the 'I'm alright culture' which sadly we seem to have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 FIF I do scrutinise all policy, I made my feelings clear on the TU bill in the other Corbyn thread, I want to start on some Corbyn policy as well when we get some. Ken I've asked you this before but what is "the average man on the street" - because I didn't hear too much today that spoke up what I consider it tobe and from what I see of CCorbyn's supporter very few seem to come from that demographic either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rincewind Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 I wanted to post the second video but there is no cop paste available. It is the start of Corbyns speech which I found amusing. http://news.sky.com/story/1561050/sky-pulse-53-percent-can-imagine-corbyn-as-next-pm He has not let all the smears get to him. I give credit for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 29 September 2015 Share Posted 29 September 2015 What do think the average man on the street is Ken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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