Ready Swan Posted 23 July 2016 Posted 23 July 2016 How do you react? If Indonesian sing Donald Trump song "Make America Great Again" in Javanese Style. Listen his/her pronunciation... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3DjWAHIaKc
Guest MattP Posted 25 July 2016 Posted 25 July 2016 No expense spared from Trump to dig up a few things about Hillary
Guest MattP Posted 25 July 2016 Posted 25 July 2016 Democratic convention gets off to a good start with Bernie Sanders being booed by the crowd for telling them to elect Hillary Clinton. Every time her name gets mentioned it's a loud boo from everyone. HELL NO DNC WE WON'T VOTE FOR HILLARY! This is the US equivalent of the Corbynistas
Dr The Singh Posted 25 July 2016 Posted 25 July 2016 23 minutes ago, MattP said: Democratic convention gets off to a good start with Bernie Sanders being booed by the crowd for telling them to elect Hillary Clinton. Every time her name gets mentioned it's a loud boo from everyone. HELL NO DNC WE WON'T VOTE FOR HILLARY! This is the US equivalent of the Corbynistas love it, to be fair, I would in general shag any women, but I hate her and would possibly turn her poon down. She is a career Politician who would suck anyone's piece for success.
Webbo Posted 25 July 2016 Posted 25 July 2016 22 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said: love it, to be fair, I would in general shag any women, but I hate her and would possibly turn her poon down. She is a career Politician who would suck anyone's piece for success. I like how you've used the word "possibly", leaving your options open in case the chance arises.
Guest MattP Posted 25 July 2016 Posted 25 July 2016 44 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said: love it, to be fair, I would in general shag any women, but I hate her and would possibly turn her poon down. She is a career Politician who would suck anyone's piece for success. Anyone who is up flick on Sky News now, 10,000 Sanders supporters protesting, they have just spoken to a handful and virtually every single one seemed to be absolutely off their tits on something , they just started booing one of them for saying they had to vote for Clinton to stop Trump. I was sceptical about this "Bernie or bust" mob but it could be bigger than we were told, the dude on TV said he's in a massive minority in being one who will vote for her.
leicsmac Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 Yeah, this is the shit I was was talking about a couple of months back. Still, most of them are likely not from swing states (usually Cali or the Northeast for this lot, as far as I can tell) so their actions won't actually make much difference in the grand scheme. Hopefully.
leicsmac Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 If Senator Warren was the nominee rather than Hillary this election would already be over bar the shouting. Fantastic stuff. Bernie getting a pretty damn huge welcome before his speech.
leicsmac Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 What, Donald? No attack on Mrs Obama in your Tweets but going after everyone else? Why is that, exactly? Bernie strongly encouraging a united front. Good. One side of the pendulum understands how important that is, it's time the other side did too.
foxy boxing Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 republican supporters under trump are acting like rabid dogs chomping at the bit to sink their teeth into anyone not 'like them'. it is a them versus everyone else mentality.
Guest MattP Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 Can certainly see why the Dems are losing support, the first few speakers were illegals begging not to be deported, it looked for a time like they were secretly saying they won't bother to enforce any immigration laws. Mrs Obama pulled it back though a bit, quite a barnstorming speech.
leicsmac Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 I think Warren was the fire to Mrs Obamas ice too, really laid into Trump. As for losing support, poll data still has Clinton needing just one or two swing states, Trump needing a shitload, so until such time as that appears to change... And I'm still curious as to why Trump left the First Lady alone in his plethora of Tweet attacks last night.
Guest MattP Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 1 minute ago, leicsmac said: I think Warren was the fire to Mrs Obamas ice too, really laid into Trump. As for losing support, poll data still has Clinton needing just one or two swing states, Trump needing a shitload, so until such time as that appears to change... And I'm still curious as to why Trump left the First Lady alone in his plethora of Tweet attacks last night. You are assuming she wins Florida to only need one or two swing states. Nate Silver now has Trump with a 57.5% chance of winning and he's not called an US election wrong yet.
purpleronnie Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 I'd be concerned if that was the case with a couple of weeks to go. No doubt about Clinton having a bad couple of months.
leicsmac Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 28 minutes ago, MattP said: You are assuming she wins Florida to only need one or two swing states. Nate Silver now has Trump with a 57.5% chance of winning and he's not called an US election wrong yet. No, as per the the work I did on the last page, she only needs Florida OR one or two others. Just getting Florida would be enough. And with the greatest of respect to Nate Silver, forecasting Trump to take every single swing state on the aforementioned list despite Clinton having 5-point leads in RCP polls in a fair few of them...well, it's possible, but I'd really like to know the nuts and bolts of how they put together that kind of projection and come up with that kind of result, because it seems a bit counter-intuitive. Does he have access to polling data the rest of us not have? Or is there a certain amount of disregard there? Would be interesting to look deeper if I have time. He also didn't see Trump winning the nomination and the result of the UK 2015 GE, so there is that.
Guest MattP Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 8 minutes ago, leicsmac said: No, as per the the work I did on the last page, she only needs Florida OR one or two others. Just getting Florida would be enough. And with the greatest of respect to Nate Silver, forecasting Trump to take every single swing state on the aforementioned list despite Clinton having 5-point leads in RCP polls in a fair few of them...well, it's possible, but I'd really like to know the nuts and bolts of how they put together that kind of projection and come up with that kind of result, because it seems a bit counter-intuitive. But you are giving far more states to Clinton on your summary than any neutral body that does this professionally, the polling you drew those up on is way out from the polling over the last couple of weeks. When you did those Clinton had a 5pt lead Trump in Florida, now it looks like Trump is a pretty strong favourite to take it - http://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2016/07/25/new-poll-shows-trump-currently-leading-hillary-in-florida Nate Silver does this as a profession and often uses provate polling. Trump has bounced into a lead this last week, as much as 5 points but by a general 2 or 3. - http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/25/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/
Guest MattP Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 His site is brilliant, never such in depth analysis of polling. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
Webbo Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 11 minutes ago, MattP said: His site is brilliant, never such in depth analysis of polling. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/ According to that site(updated 13 hours ago) Clinton is on 53.9%?
Guest MattP Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 1 minute ago, Webbo said: According to that site(updated 13 hours ago) Clinton is on 53.9%? Yeah it changes every day.
leicsmac Posted 26 July 2016 Posted 26 July 2016 17 minutes ago, MattP said: But you are giving far more states to Clinton on your summary than any neutral body that does this professionally, the polling you drew those up on is way out from the polling over the last couple of weeks. When you did those Clinton had a 5pt lead Trump in Florida, now it looks like Trump is a pretty strong favourite to take it - http://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2016/07/25/new-poll-shows-trump-currently-leading-hillary-in-florida Nate Silver does this as a profession and often uses provate polling. Trump has bounced into a lead this last week, as much as 5 points but by a general 2 or 3. - http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/25/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/ You could be right. I am only using RCP as a source (who take leads from various polls) and I'm using a narrower margin to define a swing state (4 points) than many other sources, but I am using the most recent data I can find. Perhaps that is being overtaken by events, given that things are pushing into high gear now. Can Trump really sweep all the swing states? I wonder. I will keep an eye on that site more. Seems to be much more up to the minute than the average pollster.
leicsmac Posted 28 July 2016 Posted 28 July 2016 So apparently it's highly likely that the Russians were responsible for the DNC computer hack (lots of Dem emails got stolen and exposed), and Trump, from what has been reported, was totally OK with the idea. Which sounds an awful lot like encouraging cyber-espionage by a foreign power on the soil of your home country. Of course Trump then came out and said such views were him only joking, but I think it's reasonable to say that Russia would prefer the idea of a Trump presidency than a Clinton one given that he and Putin seem to get along...so the narrative holds some weight.
Guest Posted 28 July 2016 Posted 28 July 2016 I'm just tired of having the US rallies thrust down my throat in every news session. I really don't care. I think both candidates are poor for america and bad for the world. And hearing the same thing time after time is enough.
leicsmac Posted 28 July 2016 Posted 28 July 2016 1 hour ago, FIF said: I'm just tired of having the US rallies thrust down my throat in every news session. I really don't care. I think both candidates are poor for america and bad for the world. And hearing the same thing time after time is enough. Well, it's convention season so it's going to get a bit silly. Perhaps when it's done it'll die down a little; at least until the debates. Can't much disagree with your sentiments about both candidates, though there are degrees of poorness. It's a shame, however, that it's come to that.
foxy boxing Posted 28 July 2016 Posted 28 July 2016 donald trump saying he wants russia to hack hilary clintons emails,i mean the man is just so distasteful its disgusting.he has already said he is a big fan of putin which should set the alarm bells ringing amongst all americans.Him and putin together will be the biggest security risk to the world along with isis
Jattdogg Posted 28 July 2016 Posted 28 July 2016 Not necessarily a good sense of humour to have on the world stage if you want to build relationships with other heads of states. I feel for americans if these two are all they can muster from over 350+million citizens (i forget their population and dont want to google it lol). But then again seems like they wanted these two. Talk of americans moving to canada if trump wins. please don't
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